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MD Dynamix Section Feature Idea

MD Dynamix Section Feature Idea

2005-05-05 by innerclock2004

Sent this to Elektron already for consideration but interested to 
know if anyone has any comments or additions to the basic idea:

I love the Dynamix section of the FX very much and use it always. 
When I am working on patterns I usually route all tracks through the 
main stereo outs. As the compressor is reacting to all the tracks 
feeding into the stereo bus - with higher compression settings the 
overall tonal shifts start to get very rhythmic - on a sustained kick 
drum for example - all other tracks are squashed as long as the kick 
is present but they lift again when the kick is absent.

Two things:

1. Because the Dynamix/Compressor is always reacting to its input 
material - in a live situation - if I mute a track (the kick drum for 
example) I lose that beautiful rhythmic compression effect from the 
rest of the mix because the kick is not hitting the compressor input. 
The same goes for any other track you mute or unmute.

2. From a recording/multi-track point of view - I always track 
everything separately. I mostly use the separate output for this. In 
order to separate the tracks for recording I can only have 1 MD sound 
routed to the Main outs to use the Dynamix section for recording. The 
same problem exists as in my first example - with the whole mix 
routed through the Dynamix/Main out the individual tracks all push 
and pull against each other in level and tonal characteristic but as 
soon as I route individual tracks to the separate output or mute them 
so I can record say the Hi Hats separately - I lose the original 
sound.

An idea for a future MD OS release:-

1. A new parameter in the Dynamix section - Sidechain/Main Mix Balance

Re-work the software so that the Dynamix FX algorithm has sidechain 
input. The balance parameter would then adjust how much the 
compressor is either reacting to the Main Mix audio(mutes included) 
or to the Side Chain input signal from the individual tracks. The 
sidechain input only affects the compressor - the audio does not pass 
through to the mix outs.

2. A new parameter in every Track - Dynamix Sidechain Send Level

This would set how much level of each MD track gets routed to the 
Dynamix Side Chain input. It would need to be a pre-mix volume/pre-
mute send so that the track volume and mutes do not affect the 
Sidechain signal. Parameter locks for this might be nice too......

Something also very cool about this would be the ability to use the 
External Inputs and then have the source input signal from this MD 
track feeding the Dynamix Sidechain inputs - say a Monomachine 
bassline pushing and pulling on the compressor for some truly mind 
bending stuff.......

Cheers all..... DAVID

RE: [elektron] MD (MnM) Dynamix Section Feature Idea

2005-05-05 by Martin Vít

I like it. 
I started thinking about this right yesterday night, as I wanted to record
tracks separately and lost the comp's pumping :)
And voilá, someone has been faster. 
I have a Monomachine and this would work great here either. 
Including the external input connected to the DynamicFx. 

Thanks

Once the algorithm is ready for MD, I do not think it would be difficult to
put it to MnM too. 


Martin





Sent this to Elektron already for consideration but interested to know if
anyone has any comments or additions to the basic idea:

I love the Dynamix section of the FX very much and use it always. 
When I am working on patterns I usually route all tracks through the main
stereo outs. As the compressor is reacting to all the tracks feeding into
the stereo bus - with higher compression settings the overall tonal shifts
start to get very rhythmic - on a sustained kick drum for example - all
other tracks are squashed as long as the kick is present but they lift again
when the kick is absent.

Two things:

1. Because the Dynamix/Compressor is always reacting to its input material -
in a live situation - if I mute a track (the kick drum for
example) I lose that beautiful rhythmic compression effect from the rest of
the mix because the kick is not hitting the compressor input. 
The same goes for any other track you mute or unmute.

2. From a recording/multi-track point of view - I always track everything
separately. I mostly use the separate output for this. In order to separate
the tracks for recording I can only have 1 MD sound routed to the Main outs
to use the Dynamix section for recording. The same problem exists as in my
first example - with the whole mix routed through the Dynamix/Main out the
individual tracks all push and pull against each other in level and tonal
characteristic but as soon as I route individual tracks to the separate
output or mute them so I can record say the Hi Hats separately - I lose the
original sound.

An idea for a future MD OS release:-

1. A new parameter in the Dynamix section - Sidechain/Main Mix Balance

Re-work the software so that the Dynamix FX algorithm has sidechain input.
The balance parameter would then adjust how much the compressor is either
reacting to the Main Mix audio(mutes included) or to the Side Chain input
signal from the individual tracks. The sidechain input only affects the
compressor - the audio does not pass through to the mix outs.

2. A new parameter in every Track - Dynamix Sidechain Send Level

This would set how much level of each MD track gets routed to the Dynamix
Side Chain input. It would need to be a pre-mix volume/pre- mute send so
that the track volume and mutes do not affect the Sidechain signal.
Parameter locks for this might be nice too......

Something also very cool about this would be the ability to use the External
Inputs and then have the source input signal from this MD track feeding the
Dynamix Sidechain inputs - say a Monomachine bassline pushing and pulling on
the compressor for some truly mind bending stuff.......

Cheers all..... DAVID







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