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Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been considering upgrading my SPS1 
for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra features of the UW can be 
covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads) reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
this one please.
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Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
without alot of work.  

--- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:

> Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
> considering upgrading my SPS1 
> for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
> features of the UW can be 
> covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
> reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
> this one please.
> Thanks
> 
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I agree, any computer set-up involving the MD could probably recreate a U/W upgrade with ease, 

But, for an all in one production studio/drum machine/sequencer/sampler, it doesnt get any better than the UW,
I cannot wait to get mine...
I have been syncing the MD with my Akai sampler for years so I am already substituting the sampling with an external device, but I cannot wait to be able to do everything in a nice package/interface....

I better hurry up and pay for my dam order!

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  Subject: Re: [elektron] SPS1+Reason=UW?


  Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
  the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
  When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
  just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
  sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
  without alot of work.  

  --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:

  > Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
  > considering upgrading my SPS1 
  > for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
  > features of the UW can be 
  > covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
  > reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
  > this one please.
  > Thanks
  > 
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I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1 effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.

John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
without alot of work.  

--- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:

> Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
> considering upgrading my SPS1 
> for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
> features of the UW can be 
> covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
> reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
> this one please.
> Thanks
> 
> 
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With software you can:
- have thousands of plugins and music programs
- have libraries of 50 gig and more
- tweak everything and be a mad scientist

With the UW you can:
- make music
- have fun
- rediscover sampling, cut the crap


if you know what i mean
Flo




Festus Williams wrote:
> I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1 effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.
> 
> John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
> the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
> When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
> just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
> sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
> without alot of work.  
> 
> --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
>>considering upgrading my SPS1 
>>for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
>>features of the UW can be 
>>covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
>>reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
>>this one please.
>>Thanks
>>
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it really all depends on your workflow and how you want to interact
with it all... i didn't need the UW upgrade as i have plenty of other
hardware sampling/sequencing stuff but thought i'd be great to have
that stuff all available with the machinedrum environment* ... and you
can just stick the MD in a bag and take it somewhere and retain all
that ability without having to setup other kit aswell... but it all
depends how you like to work and how having that stuff in your MD fits
into your workflow (i personally hate going into software) or how
willing you are to bend your workflow.

On 9/7/05, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>     I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1 effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.
>  
>  John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
> 
>  the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
>  When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
>  just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
>  sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
>  without alot of work.  
>  
>  --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>  
>  > Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
>  > considering upgrading my SPS1 
>  > for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
>  > features of the UW can be 
>  > covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
>  > reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
>  > this one please.
>  > Thanks
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workflow, schmorkflow.  it's the sound.  the userwave sounds
killer, period.  no spec/feature pissing contests will
change that.

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I like that...even though I won't be buying a UW...it
is the reason I have been using / buying Elektron's
offerings.  They sound great and allow you to make
music with a stripped down, but impressive set of
tools.

> With the UW you can:
> - make music
> - have fun
> - rediscover sampling, cut the crap
> 
> 
> if you know what i mean
> Flo
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> Festus Williams wrote:
> > I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to
> break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give
> potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1
> effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.
> > 
> > John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any
> MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
> > the UW does... however, it will not sound like a
> UW. 
> > When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat
> them
> > just like any other sound in the MD...which opens
> up
> > sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
> > without alot of work.  
> > 
> > --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
> >>considering upgrading my SPS1 
> >>for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
> >>features of the UW can be 
> >>covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller
> heads)
> >>reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
> >>this one please.
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>
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it's not *just* the sound though is it, that would be doing it a
disservice ... having it all in the elektron box is great .. and
that's what i mean by workflow

On 9/8/05, niall munnelly <aleph@...> wrote:
>     workflow, schmorkflow.  it's the sound.  the userwave sounds
>  killer, period.  no spec/feature pissing contests will
>  change that.
>  
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On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:55:51PM +0100, Edward George wrote:
> it's not *just* the sound though is it, that would be doing it a
> disservice ... having it all in the elektron box is great .. and
> that's what i mean by workflow

o, i know you meant that - i'm only stressing the sound
because it's always the first thing people stop talking
about when they start comparing x to y+z, you know?

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yeah, and anything done in reason sounds like it's done in reason. ;)

On 9/8/05, niall munnelly <aleph@...> wrote:
>     On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:55:51PM +0100, Edward George wrote:
>  > it's not *just* the sound though is it, that would be doing it a
>  > disservice ... having it all in the elektron box is great .. and
>  > that's what i mean by workflow
>  
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I would say SPS1+Ableton Live would be a better combo because of Live 
on-fly sampling capabilities.  and you can add whatever lo-fi sample 
reduction plugin to make your sample 12bit, etc.

Edward George wrote:

>yeah, and anything done in reason sounds like it's done in reason. ;)
>
>On 9/8/05, niall munnelly <aleph@...> wrote:
>  
>
>>    On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:55:51PM +0100, Edward George wrote:
>> > it's not *just* the sound though is it, that would be doing it a
>> > disservice ... having it all in the elektron box is great .. and
>> > that's what i mean by workflow
>> 
>> o, i know you meant that - i'm only stressing the sound
>> because it's always the first thing people stop talking
>> about when they start comparing x to y+z, you know?
>> 
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good point!

Flo Zombie <newsgroups@...> wrote:

With software you can:
- have thousands of plugins and music programs
- have libraries of 50 gig and more
- tweak everything and be a mad scientist

With the UW you can:
- make music
- have fun
- rediscover sampling, cut the crap


if you know what i mean
Flo




Festus Williams wrote:
> I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1 effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.
> 
> John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
> the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
> When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
> just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
> sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
> without alot of work.  
> 
> --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
>>considering upgrading my SPS1 
>>for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
>>features of the UW can be 
>>covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
>>reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
>>this one please.
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
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Yes, the ability to be able to do everything in the same envirnment is making me think 'upgrade! upgrade! upgrade!'
I'll have to have a chat with MR D H very soon then...

Edward George <edwardgeorge@...> wrote:
it really all depends on your workflow and how you want to interact
with it all... i didn't need the UW upgrade as i have plenty of other
hardware sampling/sequencing stuff but thought i'd be great to have
that stuff all available with the machinedrum environment* ... and you
can just stick the MD in a bag and take it somewhere and retain all
that ability without having to setup other kit aswell... but it all
depends how you like to work and how having that stuff in your MD fits
into your workflow (i personally hate going into software) or how
willing you are to bend your workflow.

On 9/7/05, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>     I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1 effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.
>  
>  John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
> 
>  the UW does... however, it will not sound like a UW. 
>  When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat them
>  just like any other sound in the MD...which opens up
>  sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
>  without alot of work.  
>  
>  --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>  
>  > Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
>  > considering upgrading my SPS1 
>  > for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
>  > features of the UW can be 
>  > covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller heads)
>  > reason. Could anyone shed some light on 
>  > this one please.
>  > Thanks
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
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While I love the Elektron machines... software still
has its place and good music is being made with
software.  

--- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:

> good point!
> 
> Flo Zombie <newsgroups@...> wrote:
> 
> With software you can:
> - have thousands of plugins and music programs
> - have libraries of 50 gig and more
> - tweak everything and be a mad scientist
> 
> With the UW you can:
> - make music
> - have fun
> - rediscover sampling, cut the crap
> 
> 
> if you know what i mean
> Flo
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> Festus Williams wrote:
> > I'm thinking that the sampler (with the ability to
> break up samples as well as ADSRs et al) will give
> potetially more devastating results. Also SPS1
> effects can sound a little too brittle/synthetic.
> > 
> > John Gellings <taco6@...> wrote: Any
> MachineDrum / Computer set-up can do most of what
> > the UW does... however, it will not sound like a
> UW. 
> > When you load the sounds into UW, you can treat
> them
> > just like any other sound in the MD...which opens
> up
> > sonic madness that Reason cannot emulate...well,
> > without alot of work.  
> > 
> > --- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
> > 
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> >>Hello folks, Noble Savage here. I've been
> >>considering upgrading my SPS1 
> >>for a UW. However, I'm not too that the extra
> >>features of the UW can be 
> >>covered using my SPS1 sync'd with (propeller
> heads)
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May well be, but most things done on the Machinedrum do sound like they 
are done on a machinedrum.

You can think of many arguments but this is the way it sounds to me. 
And however the MD sound is ok it does have it's weak points like 
Reason does.

I wouldn't call the sound the MD's strongest point myself.



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Edward George 
<edwardgeorge@g...> wrote:
> yeah, and anything done in reason sounds like it's done in reason. ;)

Haha so true!

Hmmm i'm concerned soundwise. I didn't have yet the chance to test 
this yet as i've sent my MD today. I don't know if the lower 
conversion will denaturize the original sound and make it sound too 
digital. I'd really prefer less UW instr. and respect the original 
sound nature (higher conversion).

About the UW features, i also think that they could be simply done 
within a good sampler...
BUT... i think MD's interface, which creates a nice relation between 
machine and body, will easy me my compositions.
I hope  =:)

Moreno


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> yeah, and anything done in reason sounds like it's done in 
reason. ;)

Hello.

I'm looking to buy a used Machinedrum from someone in
the US.  I'm willing to pay $900-950 US shipped to NJ
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i'm inclined to agree with you. A lot of the music posted does sound as though it has come from the same source. This is why im considering using an outside addition for sampling- either that or use heavy putside processing...

acidfev <hsoest2@...> wrote:May well be, but most things done on the Machinedrum do sound like they 
are done on a machinedrum.

You can think of many arguments but this is the way it sounds to me. 
And however the MD sound is ok it does have it's weak points like 
Reason does.

I wouldn't call the sound the MD's strongest point myself.



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Why is everyone so concerned with making something
sound like something else?  If you don't like the
sound of the MachineDrum, why would you use it?  I can
understand what you mean by Reason, but I make alot of
stuff is Reason that noone knows I made in Reason. 
The TR-808, TB-303, and TR-909 are some of the most
recognizable machines in music...yet we don't question
them.

--- Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:

> i'm inclined to agree with you. A lot of the music
> posted does sound as though it has come from the
> same source. This is why im considering using an
> outside addition for sampling- either that or use
> heavy putside processing...
> 
> acidfev <hsoest2@...> wrote:May well be, but
> most things done on the Machinedrum do sound like
> they 
> are done on a machinedrum.
> 
> You can think of many arguments but this is the way
> it sounds to me. 
> And however the MD sound is ok it does have it's
> weak points like 
> Reason does.
> 
> I wouldn't call the sound the MD's strongest point
> myself.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Edward George
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> done in reason. ;)
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Just adding my spoon to the soup; Where has this stubid myth came
from, that says 'everything done in reason sounds like reason'. I
don't see much of a reason for it. I kind of understand that people do
use a lot of bundled sounds (samples) from reason, because they are
very easy starting point for making good sounding music. Of course
when on tries to grow as an independent artist, one will seek (and
learn) his/her own sound more. I believe reason has nothing wrong with
it. Neither does the MD. They differ, but then again so does
everything else. 

toni.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, John Gellings <taco6@y...> wrote:

> Why is everyone so concerned with making something
> sound like something else?  If you don't like the
> sound of the MachineDrum, why would you use it?  I can
> understand what you mean by Reason, but I make alot of
> stuff is Reason that noone knows I made in Reason. 
> The TR-808, TB-303, and TR-909 are some of the most
> recognizable machines in music...yet we don't question
> them.
> 
> --- Festus Williams <fesps1@y...> wrote:
> 
> > i'm inclined to agree with you. A lot of the music
> > posted does sound as though it has come from the
> > same source. This is why im considering using an
> > outside addition for sampling- either that or use
> > heavy putside processing...
> > 
> > acidfev <hsoest2@h...> wrote:May well be, but
> > most things done on the Machinedrum do sound like
> > they 
> > are done on a machinedrum.
> > 
> > You can think of many arguments but this is the way
> > it sounds to me. 
> > And however the MD sound is ok it does have it's
> > weak points like 
> > Reason does.
> > 
> > I wouldn't call the sound the MD's strongest point
> > myself.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Edward George
> > 
> > <edwardgeorge@g...> wrote:
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> > done in reason. ;)
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> Just adding my spoon to the soup; Where has this stubid myth came
> from, that says 'everything done in reason sounds like reason'. I
> don't see much of a reason for it. I kind of understand that people do
> use a lot of bundled sounds (samples) from reason, because they are
> very easy starting point for making good sounding music. Of course
> when on tries to grow as an independent artist, one will seek (and
> learn) his/her own sound more. I believe reason has nothing wrong with
> it. Neither does the MD. They differ, but then again so does
> everything else. 
> 
> toni.


I agree.... Reason is one awesome tool.  And when there are people who 
take the time to really program some really cool stuff, you'd never know 
where it came from, reason or no.  It is a silly myth.

can we terminate this thread? too far off topic...