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2005-09-29 by taco6
I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along with my Monomachine. Since I was mostly software before (outside of pre-amps, mics etc) and only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use for a mixer. Now I do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine together. Anyone know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They exist, but I'm not sure which ones are going to color my sound for the worse. What should I look at and what should I avoid?
2005-09-29 by Scott Kellogg
You could get one of the little Behringer mixers, or, alternatively, run the Mono into the MD inputs and not have to mess with a mixer. /Scott taco6 wrote: > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along with my Monomachine. > Since I was mostly software before (outside of pre-amps, mics etc) and > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use for a mixer. Now I > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine together. Anyone > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They exist, but I'm not sure > which ones are going to color my sound for the worse. What should I > look at and what should I avoid? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Scott Kellogg Coordinator, Midwest Electronic Music Summit http://www.themems.com
2005-09-29 by taco6
Good idea about the MD inputs... thanks. --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote: > You could get one of the little Behringer mixers, or, alternatively, run > the Mono into the MD inputs and not have to mess with a mixer. > > /Scott > > taco6 wrote: > > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along with my Monomachine. > > Since I was mostly software before (outside of pre-amps, mics etc) and > > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use for a mixer. Now I > > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine together. Anyone > > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They exist, but I'm not sure > > which ones are going to color my sound for the worse. What should I
> > look at and what should I avoid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Kellogg > Coordinator, > Midwest Electronic Music Summit > http://www.themems.com
2005-09-29 by Jesse
I have been battling with mixers for years, I keep adding either more pre-amps to my computer for more virtual mixing channels, or buying new analog consoles to meet my live needs... I guess it all depends on how many channels you need etc.... do you want to go analog or virtual or digital mixing... Like Scott said though, You can always plug your MnM outputs to the Mdrum inputs, something I end up doing a lot to free up channels.... If you want to blow tons of $$ on a live mixer i recommend the xone 464, If you want to save $$ the soundcraft compact series is both affordable and a blast to use...
----- Original Message -----
From: taco6
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:04 PM
Subject: [elektron] Decent Mixer under $100
I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along with my Monomachine.
Since I was mostly software before (outside of pre-amps, mics etc) and
only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use for a mixer. Now I
do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine together. Anyone
know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They exist, but I'm not sure
which ones are going to color my sound for the worse. What should I
look at and what should I avoid?
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-09-29 by Andy Tarpinian
On 9/29/05 12:04 PM, "taco6" wrote: > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along with my Monomachine. > Since I was mostly software before (outside of pre-amps, mics etc) and > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use for a mixer. Now I > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine together. Anyone > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They exist, but I'm not sure > which ones are going to color my sound for the worse. What should I > look at and what should I avoid? > Imo think you should go up a little more than that. Your buying super expensive gear made to get specific sounds, they deserve a good path to get to your ears. Although I think this Yamaha will do nicely http://tinyurl.com/9n9ne Or this Soundcraft http://tinyurl.com/9vvzl I usually avoid behringer if there are other options
2005-09-29 by John Gellings
I was thinking of that soundcraft...but how about going into the Machinedrums Audio Ins... is there any reason not to do this? --- Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...> wrote: > > > > On 9/29/05 12:04 PM, "taco6" wrote: > > > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along > with my Monomachine. > > Since I was mostly software before (outside of > pre-amps, mics etc) and > > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use > for a mixer. Now I > > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine > together. Anyone > > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They > exist, but I'm not sure > > which ones are going to color my sound for the > worse. What should I > > look at and what should I avoid? > > > > Imo think you should go up a little more than that. > Your buying super > expensive gear made to get specific sounds, they > deserve a good path to get > to your ears. > > Although I think this Yamaha will do nicely > > http://tinyurl.com/9n9ne > > Or this Soundcraft > > http://tinyurl.com/9vvzl > > > I usually avoid behringer if there are other options > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
2005-09-29 by Jesse
I believe the only downside to using the MDrum ins is losing MDrum tracks, but I could be mistaken.... The soundcraft compact series is extremely affordable....
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gellings
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Decent Mixer under $100
I was thinking of that soundcraft...but how about
going into the Machinedrums Audio Ins... is there any
reason not to do this?
--- Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/29/05 12:04 PM, "taco6" wrote:
>
> > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along
> with my Monomachine.
> > Since I was mostly software before (outside of
> pre-amps, mics etc) and
> > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use
> for a mixer. Now I
> > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine
> together. Anyone
> > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They
> exist, but I'm not sure
> > which ones are going to color my sound for the
> worse. What should I
> > look at and what should I avoid?
> >
>
> Imo think you should go up a little more than that.
> Your buying super
> expensive gear made to get specific sounds, they
> deserve a good path to get
> to your ears.
>
> Although I think this Yamaha will do nicely
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9n9ne
>
> Or this Soundcraft
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9vvzl
>
>
> I usually avoid behringer if there are other options
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-09-29 by Ryan Ryan
It also doesn't sound as good. I think the machine drum REALLY needs to go through an analog mixer to sound really nice....otherwise it sounds boring and lifeless imho. *ready for the attacks* lol...i think thats most drum machines too. 909 included, without using a mixing board on the individual sounds its like :-/ I think eqing and other various mixing effects on drums really makes peoples drums sound unique... Jesse <jesse@...> wrote:I believe the only downside to using the MDrum ins is losing MDrum tracks, but I could be mistaken.... The soundcraft compact series is extremely affordable....
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gellings
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Decent Mixer under $100
I was thinking of that soundcraft...but how about
going into the Machinedrums Audio Ins... is there any
reason not to do this?
--- Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/29/05 12:04 PM, "taco6" wrote:
>
> > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along
> with my Monomachine.
> > Since I was mostly software before (outside of
> pre-amps, mics etc) and
> > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use
> for a mixer. Now I
> > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine
> together. Anyone
> > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They
> exist, but I'm not sure
> > which ones are going to color my sound for the
> worse. What should I
> > look at and what should I avoid?
> >
>
> Imo think you should go up a little more than that.
> Your buying super
> expensive gear made to get specific sounds, they
> deserve a good path to get
> to your ears.
>
> Although I think this Yamaha will do nicely
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9n9ne
>
> Or this Soundcraft
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9vvzl
>
>
> I usually avoid behringer if there are other options
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-09-29 by Andy Tarpinian
I haven't used my MnM in's yet, actually I forgot I had em! Do you need to use up a track on the MnM or MD to have that audio in running,? that could be a con if true. + I have the habit of over loading the MnM outputs sometimes on purpose :) I wonder if you got some crazy sounds going on with both the MD and MnM in full effect you would run into clarity problems.
On 9/29/05 1:23 PM, "Jesse" wrote: > I believe the only downside to using the MDrum ins is losing MDrum tracks, but > I could be mistaken.... > > The soundcraft compact series is extremely affordable.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Gellings > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [elektron] Decent Mixer under $100 > > > I was thinking of that soundcraft...but how about > going into the Machinedrums Audio Ins... is there any > reason not to do this? >
2005-09-29 by Scott Kellogg
> > Do you need to use up a track on the MnM or MD to have that audio in > running,? that could be a con if true. You do, but doesn't the MD have 16 tracks? That's not as much of a sacrifice as one of the 6 MmM tracks. /Scott
2005-09-29 by tahvenaine2002
This might _not_ be what you are looking for, but I would buy a soundcard with multiple inputs and it might not be much more than $100.00. In studio environment it would be more handy; you could record both at the same time to different tracks, not messing with mixing volumes and so on. On the other hand, if you are going for live, then mixer would be better. Just a thought... toni. --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "taco6" <taco6@y...> wrote:
> I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along with my Monomachine. > Since I was mostly software before (outside of pre-amps, mics etc) and > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use for a mixer. Now I > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine together. Anyone > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They exist, but I'm not sure > which ones are going to color my sound for the worse. What should I > look at and what should I avoid?
2005-09-29 by Andy Tarpinian
1. Get a mixer 2. turn computer off 3. Play :) Of course you could do a firewire interface like an 828 that will give you multiple computer in's and also doubles as a standalone (computer off) mixer, but that will be more than $100 :)
On 9/29/05 2:25 PM, "tahvenaine2002" wrote: > This might _not_ be what you are looking for, but I would buy a > soundcard with multiple inputs and it might not be much more than > $100.00. In studio environment it would be more handy; you could > record both at the same time to different tracks, not messing with > mixing volumes and so on. On the other hand, if you are going for > live, then mixer would be better. Just a thought... > > toni. >
2005-09-29 by John Gellings
I have the sound card in question, but I like to use these machines seperate from my computer...and only hook them to the computer when recording. I'm not anti-computer at all...I think it is silly to be anti- computer. It is a tool just like everything else...but sometimes it is nice to use something else. --- tahvenaine2002 <toni.ahvenainen@...> wrote: > This might _not_ be what you are looking for, but I > would buy a > soundcard with multiple inputs and it might not be > much more than > $100.00. In studio environment it would be more > handy; you could > record both at the same time to different tracks, > not messing with > mixing volumes and so on. On the other hand, if you > are going for > live, then mixer would be better. Just a thought... > > toni. > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "taco6" > <taco6@y...> wrote: > > I'm going to have a Machinedrum soon to go along > with my Monomachine. > > Since I was mostly software before (outside of > pre-amps, mics etc) and > > only had the Monomachine, I've never had the use > for a mixer. Now I > > do...so I can hear the Machinedrum and Monomachine > together. Anyone > > know of a decent mixer for under $100.00. They > exist, but I'm not sure > > which ones are going to color my sound for the > worse. What should I > > look at and what should I avoid? > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
2005-09-29 by John Gellings
I'll probably just get the $99 soundcraft and be done with it. I'm afraid of the behringer stuff. --- Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote: > > > > > Do you need to use up a track on the MnM or MD to > have that audio in > > running,? that could be a con if true. > > You do, but doesn't the MD have 16 tracks? That's > not as much of a > sacrifice as one of the 6 MmM tracks. > > /Scott > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
2005-09-29 by Jesse
Not that this is the best way to do this but, I have a 8X8 i/o sound card, so I plug my instruments into the 8 inputs, route them to the 8 outputs which go to my analog mixer... Its a huge overkill but, This way i can have the fun of using a analog console while recording the tracks onto my computer for mixing later on, If i like the sounds, but messed up on the analog faders, I can always redo the volume changes on my computer to save for a later date.... not exactly in the 100$ range however...
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gellings
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Decent Mixer under $100
I'll probably just get the $99 soundcraft and be done
with it. I'm afraid of the behringer stuff.
--- Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Do you need to use up a track on the MnM or MD to
> have that audio in
> > running,? that could be a con if true.
>
> You do, but doesn't the MD have 16 tracks? That's
> not as much of a
> sacrifice as one of the 6 MmM tracks.
>
> /Scott
>
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