Elektron Musical Instruments

What do owners of the SFX-6 keyboard version think about the quality?
 Is there anybody who has compared it to the keyboard feel of a kawai,
virus, or moog voyager keyboard?  Those keyboards feel really nice,
I've also felt cheap ones like korg, m-audio, or edirol.  So, how does
the SFX-6 feel?

On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:28:12AM -0000, johan_et_pirlouit wrote:
> What do owners of the SFX-6 keyboard version think about the quality?
>  Is there anybody who has compared it to the keyboard feel of a kawai,
> virus, or moog voyager keyboard?  Those keyboards feel really nice,
> I've also felt cheap ones like korg, m-audio, or edirol.  So, how does
> the SFX-6 feel?

it's on the cheaper side, and there isn't any touch 
sensivity.  i'm not afraid to bash at it, but, then again,
there's little point in bashing at it with no velocity
sensitivity.

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niall munnelly wrote:

>On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:28:12AM -0000, johan_et_pirlouit wrote:
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>>What do owners of the SFX-6 keyboard version think about the quality?
>> Is there anybody who has compared it to the keyboard feel of a kawai,
>>virus, or moog voyager keyboard?  Those keyboards feel really nice,
>>I've also felt cheap ones like korg, m-audio, or edirol.  So, how does
>>the SFX-6 feel?
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>it's on the cheaper side, and there isn't any touch 
>sensivity.  i'm not afraid to bash at it, but, then again,
>there's little point in bashing at it with no velocity
>sensitivity.
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yea it's totally not up to quality of somthing like the virus, but its 
so worth it to have it intergraded


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Thanks for the quick replys.  I wanted something that I could use as
my master controller as well.  Without aftertouch, or even velocity
for that matter, I can't fill that role.  I guess the keyboard version
isn't for me then.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...>
wrote:

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> niall munnelly wrote:
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> >On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:28:12AM -0000, johan_et_pirlouit wrote:
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> >>What do owners of the SFX-6 keyboard version think about the quality?
> >> Is there anybody who has compared it to the keyboard feel of a kawai,
> >>virus, or moog voyager keyboard?  Those keyboards feel really nice,
> >>I've also felt cheap ones like korg, m-audio, or edirol.  So, how does
> >>the SFX-6 feel?
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> >it's on the cheaper side, and there isn't any touch 
> >sensivity.  i'm not afraid to bash at it, but, then again,
> >there's little point in bashing at it with no velocity
> >sensitivity.
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> >  
> >
> yea it's totally not up to quality of somthing like the virus, but its 
> so worth it to have it intergraded
> 
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On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 01:02:20AM -0000, johan_et_pirlouit wrote:
> Thanks for the quick replys.  I wanted something that I could use as
> my master controller as well.  Without aftertouch, or even velocity
> for that matter, I can't fill that role.  I guess the keyboard version
> isn't for me then.

the monomachine experience is taken to a whole other level
wit hteh keyboard, though.

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It's not velocity sensitive?  c_c

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:38:54PM -0400, Desdinova wrote:
> It's not velocity sensitive?  c_c

actually, this may be wrong; i haven't played with my mono
in a few months.  the sequencer _definitely_ doesn't record
velocity changes.  i can't remember if velocity is
transmitted to external kit, though, and i can't verify that
until my studio's put together again.  sorry for potentially
misleading info.  andy t, can you corroborate?

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hmm, well, I guess it's outside the scope of the classic monosynth
paradigm but I really thought that it did.

So, are parameter locks the only way to change volume?

niall munnelly wrote:

>On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:38:54PM -0400, Desdinova wrote:
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>>It's not velocity sensitive?  c_c
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>actually, this may be wrong; i haven't played with my mono
>in a few months.  the sequencer _definitely_ doesn't record
>velocity changes.  i can't remember if velocity is
>transmitted to external kit, though, and i can't verify that
>until my studio's put together again.  sorry for potentially
>misleading info.  andy t, can you corroborate?
>  
>
i just hooked it up to the virus and yes it is velocity sensitive.


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The Monomachine keyboard is velocity sensitive. If you want velocity to  
control a parameter, you must assign it in the Kit Edit->Assign->VEL  
panel. You can control 2 parameters per track with velocity with either  
pos. or neg. inflection. That inflection only comes into play when playing  
live or via MIDI notes.
-Andrew D

On Wed, 03 May 2006 19:05:16 -0700, Desdinova <soupforare@...> wrote:

> hmm, well, I guess it's outside the scope of the classic monosynth
> paradigm but I really thought that it did.
>
> So, are parameter locks the only way to change volume?
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The monomachine keyboard feels almost exactly like my Virus.  Of course, I
have a Virus Indigo... so that may explain it.
-gerald


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On 5/3/06, Andrew Denyes <andr00@...> wrote:
> The Monomachine keyboard is velocity sensitive. If you want velocity to
> control a parameter, you must assign it in the Kit Edit->Assign->VEL
> panel. You can control 2 parameters per track with velocity with either
> pos. or neg. inflection. That inflection only comes into play when playing
> live or via MIDI notes.
> -Andrew D

Phew, ok... hmm, routing velocity to two different parameters sounds delicious.
I've been trying to find a buyer for one of my kidneys since the
Elektron Friends pre-buy, that hasn't changed. :3

Take care,
des

On 5/3/06 10:49 PM, "Gerald Stevens" wrote:

> The monomachine keyboard feels almost exactly like my Virus.  Of course, I
> have a Virus Indigo... so that may explain it.
> -gerald

Woh, Really? I haven't touched an Indigo in a while but my KC board blows
the mono's out of the water, I can't imagine they put crappier boards in the
indigos?

Uh... yep - they put a fairly generic keyboard in the Indigos.  I guess all
the sparkly blue-lights were supposed to make up for keyboard quality.  It
really is close to the MnM... wouldn't surprise me if they were from the
same manufacturer.

-g

On 5/4/06, Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...> wrote:
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> > -gerald
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FYI, the keyboards in the Virus Full sized versions are the same as
the Fatar SL161, the Indigo uses a slightly different one, but the
Polar is Fatar as well.

On 5/4/06, Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...> wrote:
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> > -gerald
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