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2007-05-27 by Tony
...to have the MnM ask me 'are you sure' before you accidentally erase a pattern that you have been working on for 4 hours? would it be such a @#@#(& chore? what a completely brilliant and frustrating piece of (sh|k)it this is!
2007-05-27 by Niall Munnelly
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:31:27PM -0000, Tony wrote: > ...to have the MnM ask me 'are you sure' before you accidentally erase > a pattern that you have been working on for 4 hours? would it be such > a @#@#(& chore? > > what a completely brilliant and frustrating piece of (sh|k)it this is! Hitting Function + Erase again will undo the pattern-clear. -- Yours, Niall. .. . . . . . . . . . Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence. http://aleph-null.net .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
2007-05-27 by Andy Tarpinian
On May 27, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Tony wrote: > ...to have the MnM ask me 'are you sure' before you accidentally erase > a pattern that you have been working on for 4 hours? would it be such > a @#@#(& chore? > > what a completely brilliant and frustrating piece of (sh|k)it this is! > it's happen to me a couple times, if you do the same function again right after it will undo the previous same function if i remember correctly. If you hit function clear and it clears, hit function clear again and it will be back. After you screw up and ruin your pattern a couple of times you learn and stop doing it.
2007-05-27 by Tony Scharf
tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the fucking thing. On 5/27/07, Niall Munnelly <aleph@...> wrote: > > On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:31:27PM -0000, Tony wrote: > > ...to have the MnM ask me 'are you sure' before you accidentally erase > > a pattern that you have been working on for 4 hours? would it be such > > a @#@#(& chore? > > > > what a completely brilliant and frustrating piece of (sh|k)it this is! > > Hitting Function + Erase again will undo the pattern-clear. > > -- > Yours, > Niall. > .. . . . . . . . . . > Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence. > http://aleph-null.net > .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. .. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-27 by Andy Tarpinian
On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > fucking thing. > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo the function it wont work anymore. It's fine once you know how to work it.
2007-05-27 by M-.-n
Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the kit handling of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't have to bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic mode. I'm even thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to the 'extended with guaranteed kit loss option' :)
-----Original Message----- From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > fucking thing. > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo the function it wont work anymore. It's fine once you know how to work it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 26/05/2007 10:47 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-27 by Tony Scharf
Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in this way at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* confirm before sweeping destructive actions are performed. if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and pressed god knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat fingers, but it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ did the botch up some aspects of its UI.... Tony On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the kit > handling > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't have to > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic mode. I'm > even > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to the 'extended > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>]On > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > fucking thing. > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo the > function it wont work anymore. > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 26/05/2007 > 10:47 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-29 by hymen_blaster
I personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you 1000 times if you want to do something. You tell it what to do and it does it, whether its right or wrong. You just have to be a little bit smarter than the machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations to save a copy. It's a good idea to do this before any drastic editing. --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Scharf" <noisetheorem@...> wrote: > > Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in this way > at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* confirm > before sweeping destructive actions are performed. > > if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and pressed god > knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat fingers, but > it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ did the > botch up some aspects of its UI.... > > Tony > > > > On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the kit > > handling > > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't have to > > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic mode. I'm > > even > > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to the 'extended > > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users% 40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users% 40yahoogroups.com>]On > > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users% 40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > > fucking thing. > > > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo the > > function it wont work anymore. > > > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 26/05/2007
> > 10:47 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2007-05-29 by Tony Scharf
I already do make backup copies when i know I am going to be doing a drastic edit. the unit is very easy to fat finger though and delete a pattern when you meant only to delete a track, or to delete when you meant paste and so forth. Its crap design. Tony On 5/28/07, hymen_blaster <jeff@...> wrote: > > I personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you 1000 times if > you want to do something. You tell it what to do and it does it, > whether its right or wrong. You just have to be a little bit smarter > than the machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. > > P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations to save a > copy. It's a good idea to do this before any drastic editing. > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Tony Scharf" > <noisetheorem@...> wrote: > > > > Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in > this way > > at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* > confirm > > before sweeping destructive actions are performed. > > > > if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and > pressed god > > knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat > fingers, but > > it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ > did the > > botch up some aspects of its UI.... > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the > kit > > > handling > > > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't > have to > > > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic > mode. I'm > > > even > > > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to > the 'extended > > > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com<elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com<elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > 40yahoogroups.com>]On > > > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > > > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > > > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > > > fucking thing. > > > > > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo > the > > > function it wont work anymore. > > > > > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: > 26/05/2007 > > > 10:47 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-29 by M-.-n
Happened to me yesterday again with the MD: Was working on a kit sequencing from the outside. Save kit. Do a further update, play for a few hours doing other stuff with the evolver. Fat finger hits the "extended" knob and boom. All last edit from the kit wiped.
-----Original Message----- From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tony Scharf Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 5:24 To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? I already do make backup copies when i know I am going to be doing a drastic edit. the unit is very easy to fat finger though and delete a pattern when you meant only to delete a track, or to delete when you meant paste and so forth. Its crap design. Tony On 5/28/07, hymen_blaster <jeff@...> wrote: > > I personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you 1000 times if > you want to do something. You tell it what to do and it does it, > whether its right or wrong. You just have to be a little bit smarter > than the machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. > > P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations to save a > copy. It's a good idea to do this before any drastic editing. > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Tony Scharf" > <noisetheorem@...> wrote: > > > > Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in > this way > > at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* > confirm > > before sweeping destructive actions are performed. > > > > if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and > pressed god > > knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat > fingers, but > > it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ > did the > > botch up some aspects of its UI.... > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the > kit > > > handling > > > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't > have to > > > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic > mode. I'm > > > even > > > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to > the 'extended > > > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com<elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-us ers% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com<elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><ele ktron-users% > 40yahoogroups.com>]On > > > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > > > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > > > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > > > fucking thing. > > > > > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo > the > > > function it wont work anymore. > > > > > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: > 26/05/2007 > > > 10:47 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 27/05/2007 15:05 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-29 by Patrik Rydberg
That's when you go to "Load kit", and load kit nr 0, "Undo Kit"... /Patrik M-.-n skrev:
> > > > Happened to me yesterday again with the MD: > > Was working on a kit sequencing from the outside. Save kit. Do a further > update, play for a few hours doing other stuff with the evolver. Fat finger > hits the "extended" knob and boom. All last edit from the kit wiped. > > -----Original Message----- > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of Tony Scharf > Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 5:24 > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > I already do make backup copies when i know I am going to be doing a > drastic > edit. the unit is very easy to fat finger though and delete a pattern when > you meant only to delete a track, or to delete when you meant paste and so > forth. > > Its crap design. > > Tony > > On 5/28/07, hymen_blaster <jeff@... > <mailto:jeff%40smackblast.com>> wrote: > > > > I personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you 1000 times if > > you want to do something. You tell it what to do and it does it, > > whether its right or wrong. You just have to be a little bit smarter > > than the machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. > > > > P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations to save a > > copy. It's a good idea to do this before any drastic editing. > > > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Tony Scharf" > > <noisetheorem@...> wrote: > > > > > > Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in > > this way > > > at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* > > confirm > > > before sweeping destructive actions are performed. > > > > > > if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and > > pressed god > > > knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat > > fingers, but > > > it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ > > did the > > > botch up some aspects of its UI.... > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the > > kit > > > > handling > > > > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't > > have to > > > > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic > > mode. I'm > > > > even > > > > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to > > the 'extended > > > > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-us > ers% > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><ele > ktron-users% > > 40yahoogroups.com>]On > > > > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > > > > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > > > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > > > > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > > > > > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > > > > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > > > > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > > > > fucking thing. > > > > > > > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo > > the > > > > function it wont work anymore. > > > > > > > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: > > 26/05/2007 > > > > 10:47 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 27/05/2007 > 15:05 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
2007-05-29 by M-.-n
The undo kit NEVER worked for me :(
-----Original Message----- From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Patrik Rydberg Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 11:53 To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? That's when you go to "Load kit", and load kit nr 0, "Undo Kit"... /Patrik M-.-n skrev: > > > > Happened to me yesterday again with the MD: > > Was working on a kit sequencing from the outside. Save kit. Do a further > update, play for a few hours doing other stuff with the evolver. Fat finger > hits the "extended" knob and boom. All last edit from the kit wiped. > > -----Original Message----- > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of Tony Scharf > Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 5:24 > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > I already do make backup copies when i know I am going to be doing a > drastic > edit. the unit is very easy to fat finger though and delete a pattern when > you meant only to delete a track, or to delete when you meant paste and so > forth. > > Its crap design. > > Tony > > On 5/28/07, hymen_blaster <jeff@... > <mailto:jeff%40smackblast.com>> wrote: > > > > I personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you 1000 times if > > you want to do something. You tell it what to do and it does it, > > whether its right or wrong. You just have to be a little bit smarter > > than the machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. > > > > P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations to save a > > copy. It's a good idea to do this before any drastic editing. > > > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Tony Scharf" > > <noisetheorem@...> wrote: > > > > > > Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in > > this way > > > at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* > > confirm > > > before sweeping destructive actions are performed. > > > > > > if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and > > pressed god > > > knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat > > fingers, but > > > it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ > > did the > > > botch up some aspects of its UI.... > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the > > kit > > > > handling > > > > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't > > have to > > > > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic > > mode. I'm > > > > even > > > > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to > > the 'extended > > > > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>< elektron-us > ers% > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>< ele > ktron-users% > > 40yahoogroups.com>]On > > > > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > > > > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > > > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > > > > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > > > > > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > > > > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > > > > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > > > > fucking thing. > > > > > > > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo > > the > > > > function it wont work anymore. > > > > > > > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: > > 26/05/2007 > > > > 10:47 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 27/05/2007 > 15:05 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 27/05/2007 15:05 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-29 by Patrik Rydberg
Strange. I don't think I have ever lost a kit that way. On the other hand, I always work in extended mode, so it might be that undo kit doesn't work for classic/extended switch, but only for pattern change... /Patrik M-.-n skrev:
> > > > The undo kit NEVER worked for me :( > > -----Original Message----- > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of Patrik Rydberg > Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 11:53 > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > That's when you go to "Load kit", and load kit nr 0, "Undo Kit"... > > /Patrik > > M-.-n skrev: > > > > > > > > Happened to me yesterday again with the MD: > > > > Was working on a kit sequencing from the outside. Save kit. Do a further > > update, play for a few hours doing other stuff with the evolver. Fat > finger > > hits the "extended" knob and boom. All last edit from the kit wiped. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of Tony Scharf > > Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 5:24 > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > I already do make backup copies when i know I am going to be doing a > > drastic > > edit. the unit is very easy to fat finger though and delete a pattern > when > > you meant only to delete a track, or to delete when you meant paste and > so > > forth. > > > > Its crap design. > > > > Tony > > > > On 5/28/07, hymen_blaster <jeff@... > <mailto:jeff%40smackblast.com> > > <mailto:jeff%40smackblast.com>> wrote: > > > > > > I personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you 1000 times if > > > you want to do something. You tell it what to do and it does it, > > > whether its right or wrong. You just have to be a little bit smarter > > > than the machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. > > > > > > P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations to save a > > > copy. It's a good idea to do this before any drastic editing. > > > > > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "Tony Scharf" > > > <noisetheorem@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Actualy, its just poor design. If I made my applications work in > > > this way > > > > at work, i'd be in deep trouble. you should *always always always* > > > confirm > > > > before sweeping destructive actions are performed. > > > > > > > > if this were the *first time* I had accidentally done this and > > > pressed god > > > > knows what so the undo didnt work i could chalk it up to my fat > > > fingers, but > > > > it isnt the first time. Great kit, great sounds...but jesus christ > > > did the > > > > botch up some aspects of its UI.... > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/27/07, M-.-n <nostromo@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yeah... let's face it. I've never seen a worse thing than the > > > kit > > > > > handling > > > > > of the MD. I decided to sequence mine externally now so I don't > > > have to > > > > > bother with that kind of problems... and it is set in classic > > > mode. I'm > > > > > even > > > > > thinking of nuking the button so I could not revert back to > > > the 'extended > > > > > with guaranteed kit loss option' :) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: > > elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>< > elektron-us > > ers% > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>< > ele > > ktron-users% > > > 40yahoogroups.com>]On > > > > > Behalf Of Andy Tarpinian > > > > > Sent: dimanche 27 mai 2007 20:52 > > > > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com> > > <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com><elektron-users% > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [elektron] would it really be such a bother???? > > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > tried it...it decided it didnt like my song. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do all of the MnM users live with this fiddly crap? > > > > > > > > > > > > if it didnt sound great, It would be a no brainer to sell the > > > > > > fucking thing. > > > > > > > > > > > well if you have pressed any other buttons before you try to undo > > > the > > > > > function it wont work anymore. > > > > > > > > > > It's fine once you know how to work it. > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: > > > 26/05/2007 > > > > > 10:47 > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: > 27/05/2007 > > 15:05 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 27/05/2007 > 15:05 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
2007-05-30 by Nico Grubert
> personally like the way elektron gear doesn't ask you > 1000 times if you want to do something. You tell it > what to do and it does it, whether its right or wrong. > You just have to be a little bit smarter than the > machine. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days. > P.S. you can always copy your patterns to new locations > to save a copy. It's a good idea to do this before any > drastic editing. I agree. It good for the workflow if the machinedrum does not ask you 1000 times. But for new users, it's frustrating if you loose your changes. Last weekend I really didn't know exactly, which button I hit (maybe the classic/extended mode button) and suddenly all my parameter locks of the current pattern are lost... The manual should be more detailed about loosing things (parameter locks, kits and sounds). ___________________________________________________________ Der fr\ufffdhe Vogel f\ufffdngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de
2007-06-04 by Flo Zombie
In the June issue Sound on Sound is reviewing the MD UW, unfortunately the article is not online completely. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun07/articles/elektronsps1uw.htm The Author is quite amazed by the possibilities of the MDUW... by the way, become a friend of http://www.myspace.com/machinedrumuw http://www.myspace.com/sidstation Flo