Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi,

>how cool is it compared to the jomox gear?  does anyone have both?
>
I have a Machinedrum and an XBase.

>i'm looking at the
>jomox xbase or airbase or machinedrum.  any other ones i should consider?
>
No, these are without competition imo... unless you consider an original 
TR909.

>i've got a sid (though i barely use it) and a ton of other really
>highquality gear (access virus, waldorf q, emu xl1, roland 505,
>synthechno teebee 303, mpc2000, and loads more)
>
I don't think the Q is high quality, but that's another discussion. :-))

>please let me know if i need the machinedrum.
>
That's entirely up to you. If you think your drums sound nice now, then 
you don't 'need' it. However, if you want to expand your sonic horizons, 
then the MD might be a good choice. The XBase does 909/808-alike stuff. 
It's not really the same, but it's similar. The MD does "new" things. 
The FM synthesis and PI synthesis in the MD really give you completely 
new sounds which haven't been heard before. Since you use samples etc 
for your TR909-alike stuff, the MD might be the better choice. However, 
I must admit I also love my XBase very very much. I could never part 
from either the MD or XBase. Imo they're completely different machines. 
If you have the money for both, then get both. Right now though, since 
you have a workaround for TR stuff, I would recomment the MD 'cause 
it'll do things you've never thought of.

Hope this helps a bit....

Bye,
Joeri

PS: what did you mean with:

"some of the cool drumsynths from buzz" Is buzz a software percussion synth or so?


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If I remember correctly, Buzz is a PC-based tracker that generates sound
through modular 'machines' you can connect together. Very cool stuff;
especially it is for free :)

http://www.buzzmachines.com/

Cheers,
Marc

> PS: what did you mean with:
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> "some of the cool drumsynths from buzz" Is buzz a software
> percussion synth or so?

I sold the Jomox.
It\ufffds very 1 dimensional, but the single instruments don\ufffdt groove together
like a 808, 909 or MD

Splank


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From: "M-.-n" <nostromo@...>
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: [elektron] machinedrum vs. jomox


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> If I remember correctly, Buzz is a PC-based tracker that generates sound
> through modular 'machines' you can connect together. Very cool stuff;
> especially it is for free :)
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> http://www.buzzmachines.com/
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> Cheers,
> Marc
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> > PS: what did you mean with:
> >
> > "some of the cool drumsynths from buzz" Is buzz a software
> > percussion synth or so?
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>It´s very 1 dimensional, but the single instruments don´t groove together
>like a 808, 909 or MD
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I don't quite agree... I personally like it. It's definitely NOT as 
intuitive as the MD, but the sequencer can be useful and groovy imo. It 
also has some sort of "step locks" just like the MD, so in that regard 
it's better than the 909. However, if you want the best sequencer of 
both, then it's obvious the MD beats the XBase.

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Joeri Vankeirsbilck
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Thanks Marc. I'll check it out!


M-.-n wrote:

>If I remember correctly, Buzz is a PC-based tracker that generates sound
>through modular 'machines' you can connect together. Very cool stuff;
>especially it is for free :)
>
>http://www.buzzmachines.com/
>
>Cheers,
>Marc
>

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Joeri Vankeirsbilck
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List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

It's so hard to tell someone if something will fit their needs exactly as
every person, regardless of musical style, has different tastes when it
comes to gear. Put the xbase and machinedrum side by side and you will
immediately hear that these 2 machines sound radically different. Which
sounds better? I don't think you can look at it this way. The xbase is
analog and therefore sounds very warm and organic. You could never create
the xbase kick on the machinedrum. On the other hand, the machine drum is
very cool for digital sounding percussion and it can create some crazy and
amazing sounds the xbase could never do. You can come up with some really
good and different sounding percussion sounds and it does really have a
unique sound of its own. The 2 compliment each other very nicely as you get
the best of both worlds but of course I have the feeling that you only want
to shell out the $$$ on one unit. Since you already seem to have been more
than getting by with stomper and a sampler and you have a 505 and other
digital gear  in your arsenal, I would argue that you could benefit more
from the texture that an analog box would provide to your beats and music.
This all depends on what your looking for. I like my kick to really kick!
Why are you looking for more? What is it that your current setup does not
provide? You want something that "kick's ass" then I must say if it's
presence in a mix you're looking for to supplement your current setup than
the xbase or another analog drum box may be what you need. The idea
situation is to try out both of these someway as until you are sitting in
front of one of these units and press start you will not know if either of
this your fill your needs.

Brana




> I have to say this:
> What would my life be without the Machinedrum?
> It\ufffds the first real Drum-Synth there is.

alright, so all this hype about the machinedrum being dopeass and "the
first real Drum-Synth"... i just have to ask:

how cool is it compared to the jomox gear?  does anyone have both?

my situation/needs:  i write freeform/trancecore so i usually use stock
909 samples for hats/crash/snare... i usually generate my kicks using
stomper or some of the cool drumsynths from buzz.  i'm looking at the
jomox xbase or airbase or machinedrum.  any other ones i should consider?

i've got a sid (though i barely use it) and a ton of other really
highquality gear (access virus, waldorf q, emu xl1, roland 505,
synthechno teebee 303, mpc2000, and loads more)  like i said before i've
got some killer drum generating software, but no actual physical unit that
kicks ass in the drum department (correct me if i'm wrong).  in my opinion
all the gear i just listed is mostly for synth sounds except some stock
drum sounds out of the 505 and xl1.

>
>
>It's so hard to tell someone if something will fit their needs exactly as
>every person, regardless of musical style, has different tastes when it
>comes to gear. Put the xbase and machinedrum side by side and you will
>immediately hear that these 2 machines sound radically different.
>
I agree. It would be best to try out both! They're different beasts 
actually and work perfectly together. As I said earlier on, I would 
never get rid of either one. Love them both!

-- 
Joeri Vankeirsbilck
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