Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi and Thanks Mister R. Cliff Young !!!

I'm still at work, so I try dumpin this evening
and let you know tomorrow - but I'm glad I subscribed to the 
list yesterday(I was asking what for - now I know)
may the groove come down on everyone

Daniel

Hello 

Hey Cliff - that midi dump worked at all but 
only for 63 sounds (00 - 62) but I think I made a 
mistake while download or copy. So I had a look with an editor
- anyone knows emacs the editor bible for programmers ? - on your
file and there all sounds are included. Think I try again but 
anyway I'm glad at all - everything fine 

Thanks 

Daniel

Why not Put this on the list as an attachment? I'd like to have it too.

>From: ds@...
>Reply-To: elektron-users@onelist.com
>To: elektron-users@onelist.com
>Subject: [elektron] Midi Dump
>Date: 29 Sep 1999 08:28:54 -0000
>
>From: ds@...
>
>Hello
>
>Hey Cliff - that midi dump worked at all but
>only for 63 sounds (00 - 62) but I think I made a
>mistake while download or copy. So I had a look with an editor
>- anyone knows emacs the editor bible for programmers ? - on your
>file and there all sounds are included. Think I try again but
>anyway I'm glad at all - everything fine
>
>Thanks
>
>Daniel
>
>

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, james holloway wrote:

> Why not Put this on the list as an attachment? I'd like to have it too.

The mailing list is set up to not allow attachments. However, there is a
common filespace available if you log into the elektron-users mailinglist
at www.onelist.com that should be perfect for these kind of things!

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__///Daniel Hansson           |   SidStation - MOS6581 Synthesis
\XX/ daniel@...    |         www.sidstation.com

Hi,

> ...I'm glad I subscribed to the
> list yesterday(I was asking what for - now I know)...

And I'm glad to announce that the amount of subscribers has doubled again!
>From 20 to 40 subscribers! And that's without any promotion. I just tried
out some promotional stuff with the logic-users list and if it works, I'll
do the same for the elektron-users list. (lots of magazines will be
publishing the links)

As for the midi dump problem: I also have a problem when dumping a SysEx
file containing all patches. If I send one by one, then it's Ok, but when I
send a complete bank, some of the sounds don't work. Could have been a bug
with my Unitor8 as well though. I just installed a new OS into my Unitor and
I'll try uploading a sound bank again soon.

Ciao,
Joeri
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote:

[...]
> As for the midi dump problem: I also have a problem when dumping a SysEx
> file containing all patches. If I send one by one, then it's Ok, but when I
> send a complete bank, some of the sounds don't work. Could have been a bug
> with my Unitor8 as well though. I just installed a new OS into my Unitor and
> I'll try uploading a sound bank again soon.

I'm not sure about the SidStation, but some MIDI equipment will not be
able to take it if all the SysEx data is dumped at maximum speed.  Usually
software will let you pause for X milliseconds every Y bytes when doing a
SysEx dump.

The file I have made available (currently at
http://www.roguebard.com/sounds/SidStationPresets/SidStation_Presets_Rev1.mid)
is just a MIDI file encapsulating the SysEx dump available from Elektron's
site.

A *better* way to do it (and one that I've been meaning to do, but I've
just not gotten around to it yet) is to separate out the individual
patches in the dump by time (which I believe is how the patches are
separated in Klaus' MIDI-file patch dump) so that even if your sequencer
doesn't handle SysEx timing properly, it will still go through because
each individual patch dump is fairly small in size and less susceptible to
overloading the SidStation (if that is what is happening) because they'll
be sent over a period of time rather that in one fell swoop.

-- 
R. Cliff Young <nukenin@...> /\/ Chaos Never Died
	http://www.roguebard.com/

Dumping either the complete SysEx or Midi Patches in one go
without any Tweaking worked flawlessly with every SysEx/MidiDumper
I tried on my ATARI-ST (and I'm running 144 Midi-Out Channels
and 48 Midi-In Channels on it)
So I fear you're having some different kind of Problem in your
Midi-Setup (?!) Perhaps a Midi-Divice in the Midi-Chain filtering
some SysEx or not being able to cope with the Amount/Speed of the SysEx-Data?

Perhaps try to directly connect your SidStation to Midi In/Out
of your computer with nothing inbetween. If this won't work,
you've possibly a defective Midi Interface, Cable or Sidstation.

Hope everything will work out fine for you though,

Good Luck!
Johann

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, R. Cliff Young wrote:

> From: "R. Cliff Young" <nukenin@...>
> 
> I'm not sure about the SidStation, but some MIDI equipment will not be
> able to take it if all the SysEx data is dumped at maximum speed.  Usually
> software will let you pause for X milliseconds every Y bytes when doing a
> SysEx dump.

The SidStation can take SYSEX dumps at full speed. The format is designed
with padding bytes that allows it time to allocate memory etc. when
needed. So the problem lies elsewhere! :)

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__///Daniel Hansson           |   SidStation - MOS6581 Synthesis
\XX/ daniel@...    |         www.sidstation.com