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2003-01-19 by Jasper de Jong

Hi!

I've been using the MD for a few weeks now. What a great machine. I haven't
really got to making any tracks with it, just been exploring it.
There's one thing I'm a bit disspointed about: the accent function. I'd
rather have an accent feature that doesn't work on all tracks, but that you
can dial in on each single track. So another button. In that way, you can
make a pattern a lot more evolving, dialing in the accents for, say, a
hihat. Could this be implemented? Maybe some sort of double function for the
volume data knob?

Thanks,

Jasper


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Re: [elektron] accents

2003-01-19 by Adam Watson

Once upon a time, Jasper wrote:

> Could this be implemented? Maybe some sort of double function for the
> volume data knob?

Hi Jasper,

It already is!  Look closely at the Routing parameters...  the second
one in on the top is "Vol"...  this lets you individually adjust
volume for just that track. You can also set this parameter to the
track's LFO for oscillating volume...


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Adam Watson

soundwithin
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Re: [elektron] accents

2003-01-19 by Jasper de Jong

Hey Adam!

> > Could this be implemented? Maybe some sort of double function for the
> > volume data knob?

> It already is!  Look closely at the Routing parameters...  the second
> one in on the top is "Vol"...  this lets you individually adjust
> volume for just that track. You can also set this parameter to the
> track's LFO for oscillating volume...

Is it really? So tweaking the vol knob in the Routing Page controls the
'amount'  of accent on that particular track?
Maybe I should explain it in another way: there's an accent track. the
accents work on all tracks. i'd like to adjust the amount the accents work
on each track. so there's no accent on the BD-track, but a lot on the
HH-track. I think this is how the 808 works too btw...

Thanks!

Jasper



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Re: [elektron] accents

2003-01-19 by Federico Ciapi

Domenica, 19 gen 2003, alle 23:14 Europe/Rome, Jasper de Jong ha  
scritto:

> Hey Adam!
>
>>> Could this be implemented? Maybe some sort of double function for the
>>> volume data knob?
>
>> It already is!  Look closely at the Routing parameters...  the second
>> one in on the top is "Vol"...  this lets you individually adjust
>> volume for just that track. You can also set this parameter to the
>> track's LFO for oscillating volume...
>
> Is it really? So tweaking the vol knob in the Routing Page controls the
> 'amount'  of accent on that particular track?

No, it just controls the volume of that track.
But if you use parameter locks you can control the volume of every  
single note.

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Re[2]: [elektron] accents

2003-01-19 by Adam Watson

Once upon a time, Federico and Jasper wrote:

>> Is it really? So tweaking the vol knob in the Routing Page controls the
>> 'amount'\ufffd of accent on that particular track?

FC> No, it just controls the volume of that track.
FC> But if you use parameter locks you can control the volume of every\ufffd 
FC> single note.

Exactly. Since the accent track is really just a way to globally
increase the attenuation of the volume for all tracks on a given beat,
you can get "parameter-locked accents" using the VOL parameter this
way.


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Adam Watson

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Re: Re[2]: [elektron] accents

2003-01-20 by Jasper de Jong

Adam,

thanks for the answer. I already knew this. But the great advantage of the
feature I mean is that you can quickly alter the amount of accent _per
track_.  Ofcourse you can make parameter locks for the volume, but it just
isn't as instant and intuitive as turning up the accent amount for a single
track.
And the fact accents work on all tracks makes it a lot less powerfull. IMHO
ofcourse... Anyone from Elektron reading this?

Thanks,

Jasper
(Who loves his MD altogether..:))
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To: Federico Ciapi <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re[2]: [elektron] accents


> Once upon a time, Federico and Jasper wrote:
>
> >> Is it really? So tweaking the vol knob in the Routing Page controls the
> >> 'amount' of accent on that particular track?
>
> FC> No, it just controls the volume of that track.
> FC> But if you use parameter locks you can control the volume of every
> FC> single note.
>
> Exactly. Since the accent track is really just a way to globally
> increase the attenuation of the volume for all tracks on a given beat,
> you can get "parameter-locked accents" using the VOL parameter this
> way.
>
>
> ----
> Best regards,
> Adam Watson
>
> soundwithin
> www.soundwithin.net
>
>
>
>
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Re: Re[2]: [elektron] accents

2003-01-20 by Crackpot

to make the VOL parameter truly useful, I begin by setting it to
about 2/3 maximum, so I always have headroom to make it a little
louder when I need it certain parts.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 05:08:32PM +0100, Jasper de Jong wrote:

> Anyone from Elektron reading this?

No, they don't.  If you want to talk to them, you need to e-mail
them directly.



BTW, here's my latest "thing":  I've discovered some marvelous
interactions between the fading away echo and the compressor.  
Try making a short, sparse sound with a lot of echo at say 105 BPM
and echo delay of 16/128 or 24/128 or so.  Then, employ the compressor
heavily.  Move your kick to a separate output, so it doesn't affect
the compressor.  You can actually hear the echoes get quieter
and quieter, than louder and louder, then disappear.  I was doing
this with the infamous EFM Cowbell.

It's really weird, especially in stereo....





> Thanks,
> 
> Jasper
> (Who loves his MD altogether..:))
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Watson <adam@...>
> To: Federico Ciapi <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: [elektron] accents
> 
> 
> > Once upon a time, Federico and Jasper wrote:
> >
> > >> Is it really? So tweaking the vol knob in the Routing Page controls the
> > >> 'amount' of accent on that particular track?
> >
> > FC> No, it just controls the volume of that track.
> > FC> But if you use parameter locks you can control the volume of every
> > FC> single note.
> >
> > Exactly. Since the accent track is really just a way to globally
> > increase the attenuation of the volume for all tracks on a given beat,
> > you can get "parameter-locked accents" using the VOL parameter this
> > way.
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Best regards,
> > Adam Watson
> >
> > soundwithin
> > www.soundwithin.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Re[2]: [elektron] accents

2003-01-21 by Jasper de Jong

Hey!

> to make the VOL parameter truly useful, I begin by setting it to
> about 2/3 maximum, so I always have headroom to make it a little
> louder when I need it certain parts.

Good tip! Makes it easier to quickly program volume changes...

> BTW, here's my latest "thing":  I've discovered some marvelous
> interactions between the fading away echo and the compressor.  
> Try making a short, sparse sound with a lot of echo at say 105 BPM
> and echo delay of 16/128 or 24/128 or so.  Then, employ the compressor
> heavily.  Move your kick to a separate output, so it doesn't affect
> the compressor.  You can actually hear the echoes get quieter
> and quieter, than louder and louder, then disappear.  I was doing
> this with the infamous EFM Cowbell.
> It's really weird, especially in stereo....

Mmm, will try that tonight. Thanks for your answer!

Jasper


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