Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi,

I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so we can't 
make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other day and I 
got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a totally 
cool feature. So here I go:

Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in recording 
mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for example 
finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if you 
would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument pattern 
would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make some 
unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would be nice 
be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! Then you 
could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this would 
perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.

What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we should post 
it to Elektron.

Toni.

Although I certainly wouldn't call that a "must-have" feature, I 
agree that it would be VERY interesting/fun to play with.

  On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is a "randomize" 
function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a lot... 
It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize 
currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to discover 
new and different sounds... 



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002 
<tahvenaine@c...>" <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so we 
can't 
> make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other day and 
I 
> got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a totally 
> cool feature. So here I go:
> 
> Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in recording 
> mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for 
example 
> finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if you 
> would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument pattern 
> would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make some 
> unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would be 
nice 
> be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! Then you 
> could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this would 
> perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.
> 
> What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we should 
post 

> it to Elektron.
> 
> Toni.

On Fri Jan 31 2003, Mind Mechanic <machanic@...> <machanic@...> wrote:

>   Although I certainly wouldn't call that a "must-have" feature, I 
> agree that it would be VERY interesting/fun to play with.

The pattern shifting thing can be found in the Future-Retro 777
(www.future-retro.com). I think it is more useful in a "melodic"
context, than in the more beat oriented world. That said, I would say
no to the feature but I think this...

>   On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is a "randomize" 
> function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a lot... 
> It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize 
> currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to discover 
> new and different sounds... 

... is a much more needed feature! I'd love that one. 

/Janne

Yes Yes Yes!!!!!! - a randomize machine settings generator. What a useful
propasition!
I have this on one of my synth patch editors and its the perfect route to
getting new sounds. Yeah you have to tweak still, its more useful to me from
the point of view that I get tired starting out from the same sounds.
Randomize would put an end to me saying (to myself) 'oh no not another lets
make a new variation of the trx kick/snare etc.


Please Please please Elektron. (Please?)


Rob





on 31/1/03 4:18 pm, Mind Mechanic <machanic@...> at
machanic@... wrote:



 On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is a "randomize"
function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a lot...
It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize
currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to discover
new and different sounds...



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002
<tahvenaine@c...>" <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so we
can't 
> make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other day and
I 
> got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a totally
> cool feature. So here I go:
> 
> Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in recording
> mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for
example 
> finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if you
> would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument pattern
> would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make some
> unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would be
nice 
> be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! Then you
> could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this would
> perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.
> 
> What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we should
post 
> it to Elektron.
> 
> Toni.


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Hey Toni,
you can do that already. when in record mode (grid) press function + one of 
the arrows.

I still can\ufffdt shut the damn sequencer from sending notes though. and it\ufffds 
not in global menu. Tryed every combination possible. what I want to do use 
the md\ufffds sequencer but record CC# moves on cubase. just found the 
multirecord option on it and it suits the MD just fine.  It can 
automatically adress the incoming midi message for it\ufffds own midi channel 
(The MD uses four).

It rocks! :D

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On the randomize function: If you're running Mac OS X, you can already do 
this! I wrote an app for randomizing machinedrum's parameters a while ago 
(you can download it from the Files section of this site). It even allows you to 
select which parameters you want to randomize and which you want to leave 
alone. I've been working on a new version of the app on and off for several 
months now, but I've been really busy with school, so I can't give you a 
definite date for release. Although the old version lacks some a bunch of cool 
new features and a streamlined interface, it's bug free and still very useful! 
Download it if you have a Mac :)


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic <machanic@e...>" <
machanic@e...> wrote:

> 
>   Although I certainly wouldn't call that a "must-have" feature, I 
> agree that it would be VERY interesting/fun to play with.
> 
>   On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is a "randomize" 
> function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a lot... 
> It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize 
> currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to discover 
> new and different sounds... 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002 
> <tahvenaine@c...>" <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so we 
> can't 
> > make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other day and 
> I 
> > got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a totally 
> > cool feature. So here I go:
> > 
> > Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in recording 
> > mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for 
> example 
> > finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if you 
> > would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument pattern 
> > would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make some 
> > unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would be 
> nice 
> > be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! Then you 
> > could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this would 
> > perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.
> > 
> > What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we should 
> post 
> > it to Elektron.
> > 
> > Toni.

any chance of one for OS9?

on 4/2/03 3:24 am, sidstationownsyou <sidstationownsyou@...> at
sidstationownsyou@... wrote:

On the randomize function: If you're running Mac OS X, you can already do
this! I wrote an app for randomizing machinedrum's parameters a while ago
(you can download it from the Files section of this site). It even allows
you to 
select which parameters you want to randomize and which you want to leave
alone. I've been working on a new version of the app on and off for several
months now, but I've been really busy with school, so I can't give you a
definite date for release. Although the old version lacks some a bunch of
cool 
new features and a streamlined interface, it's bug free and still very
useful! 
Download it if you have a Mac :)


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic <machanic@e...>" <
machanic@e...> wrote:
> 
>   Although I certainly wouldn't call that a "must-have" feature, I
> agree that it would be VERY interesting/fun to play with.
> 
>   On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is a "randomize"
> function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a lot...
> It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize
> currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to discover
> new and different sounds...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002
> <tahvenaine@c...>" <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so we
> can't 
> > make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other day and
> I 
> > got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a totally
> > cool feature. So here I go:
> > 
> > Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in recording
> > mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for
> example 
> > finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if you
> > would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument pattern
> > would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make some
> > unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would be
> nice 
> > be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! Then you
> > could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this would
> > perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.
> > 
> > What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we should
> post 
> > it to Elektron.
> > 
> > Toni.


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Sorry, no chance of me porting it to OS 9. It would be way to much work. Th=
e 
entire app is written in Objective-C for Cocoa – it's not a Carbon app. By =
the 
way, Apple plans to drop Carbon support in 2005 (or thereabouts). Also, 
CoreMIDI services aren't available in OS 9. I'd be happy to release the sou=
rce 
code for my final app once it's done though. It should be fairly easy to po=
rt to 
Linux (using GNU-Step) if anyone is up for the challenge.

Andrew.



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "rob.euroh1@v..." <rob.euroh1@v...> =

wrote:
> any chance of one for OS9?
> 
> on 4/2/03 3:24 am, sidstationownsyou <sidstationownsyou@h...> at
> sidstationownsyou@h... wrote:
> 
> On the randomize function: If you're running Mac OS X, you can already do=

> this! I wrote an app for randomizing machinedrum's parameters a while ago=

> (you can download it from the Files section of this site). It even allows=

> you to 
> select which parameters you want to randomize and which you want to 
leave
> alone. I've been working on a new version of the app on and off for sever=
al
> months now, but I've been really busy with school, so I can't give you a
> definite date for release. Although the old version lacks some a bunch of=

> cool 
> new features and a streamlined interface, it's bug free and still very
> useful! 
> Download it if you have a Mac :)
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic <machanic@e...>" 
<

> machanic@e...> wrote:
> > 
> >   Although I certainly wouldn't call that a "must-have" feature, I
> > agree that it would be VERY interesting/fun to play with.
> > 
> >   On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is a "randomize"
> > function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a lot...
> > It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize
> > currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to discover
> > new and different sounds...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002
> > <tahvenaine@c...>" <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so we
> > can't 
> > > make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other day and
> > I 
> > > got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a totally
> > > cool feature. So here I go:
> > > 
> > > Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in recording
> > > mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for
> > example 
> > > finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if you
> > > would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument pattern
> > > would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make some
> > > unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would be
> > nice 
> > > be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! Then you
> > > could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this would
> > > perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.
> > > 
> > > What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we should
> > post 
> > > it to Elektron.
> > > 
> > > Toni.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sure...  If I could understand a word you wrote...

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "sidstationownsyou 
<sidstationownsyou@h...>" <sidstationownsyou@h...> wrote:
> Sorry, no chance of me porting it to OS 9. It would be way to much 
work. Th=
> e 
> entire app is written in Objective-C for Cocoa ?it's not a Carbon 
app. By =
> the 
> way, Apple plans to drop Carbon support in 2005 (or thereabouts). 
Also, 
> CoreMIDI services aren't available in OS 9. I'd be happy to release 
the sou=
> rce 
> code for my final app once it's done though. It should be fairly 
easy to po=
> rt to 
> Linux (using GNU-Step) if anyone is up for the challenge.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "rob.euroh1@v..." 
<rob.euroh1@v...> =
> 
> wrote:
> > any chance of one for OS9?
> > 
> > on 4/2/03 3:24 am, sidstationownsyou <sidstationownsyou@h...> at
> > sidstationownsyou@h... wrote:
> > 
> > On the randomize function: If you're running Mac OS X, you can 
already do=
> 
> > this! I wrote an app for randomizing machinedrum's parameters a 
while ago=
> 
> > (you can download it from the Files section of this site). It 
even allows=
> 
> > you to 
> > select which parameters you want to randomize and which you want 
to 
> leave
> > alone. I've been working on a new version of the app on and off 
for sever=
> al
> > months now, but I've been really busy with school, so I can't 
give you a
> > definite date for release. Although the old version lacks some a 
bunch of=
> 
> > cool 
> > new features and a streamlined interface, it's bug free and still 
very
> > useful! 
> > Download it if you have a Mac :)
> > 
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mind Mechanic 
<machanic@e...>" 
> <
> > machanic@e...> wrote:
> > > 
> > >   Although I certainly wouldn't call that a "must-have" 
feature, I
> > > agree that it would be VERY interesting/fun to play with.
> > > 
> > >   On that same note, one feature that the MD lacks is 
a "randomize"
> > > function.  I often use randomizers when I'm in a rut.  Helps a 
lot...
> > > It would be cool to see both randomize pattern and randomize
> > > currently selected machine!  That would be a great way to 
discover
> > > new and different sounds...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002
> > > <tahvenaine@c...>" <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I've heard that the sequencer isn't going to change much, so 
we
> > > can't 
> > > > make any big wishes to it. I was thinking about this other 
day and
> > > I 
> > > > got an idea that ain't requiring much, but still would be a 
totally
> > > > cool feature. So here I go:
> > > > 
> > > > Now we can shift instrument pattern to left or right in 
recording
> > > > mode by pushing function + left/right arrow. This is nice for
> > > example 
> > > > finding creative snare placement and such. Well how about if 
you
> > > > would then push function + up/down arrow and the instrument 
pattern
> > > > would become a mirror of itself!! Nice creative way to make 
some
> > > > unpredictable breaks and such, don't you think. And it would 
be
> > > nice 
> > > > be able to mirror the whole pattern with every instrument! 
Then you
> > > > could find some totally new thing to be made... I think this 
would
> > > > perfectly fit in MD as it is a very creative machine.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think? Comments? If people like this idea, we 
should
> > > post 
> > > > it to Elektron.
> > > > 
> > > > Toni.
> > 
> > 
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Service

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> > 
> > 
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