Elektron Musical Instruments

Plus if you do a correct dump, you should have at least two hundred and
something messages.

M-.-n

http://n0s.10pm.org/


----- Original Message -----

From: <CARGO1@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: [elektron] machindrum and sysex


> hello,i have lost my midi set up data again,yesterday i have only
> turned on my md and i have lost midi set up number 1(1 of 8)!! i'
> think seriously it's a problem of my md!!!
> please tell me anything and explain me how to use midi ox properly...
> i make a .syx file transmitting all data from md sysex send
> function...the file is ok...then i delete some patterns on my md for
> veify if when i reload the .syx file there are the patterns i have
> deleted before...NOTHING,LOST THEM!!...i recieve 32 message,i verify
> using "ver" function on md and it tell me "32 message recieved"!! it
> seems to be ok,but the data isn't the same data i  have saved on .syx
> file....why? midi ox buffers set up is: size 128,num32,delay 120,but
> i have also try with normal setup,buffer 256, num16, delay 60...
> please help me!!!
>
>
>
>
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>
>

when i send data from md to midi ox i send 232 messages,when i 
recieve the file md recieve 32 messages,but midi ox send all the 
file!! can you tell me midi ox parameters impostation??



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" <nostromo@a...> wrote:
> 
> Plus if you do a correct dump, you should have at least two hundred 
and
> something messages.
> 
> M-.-n
> 
> http://n0s.10pm.org/
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CARGO1@I...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:03 PM
> Subject: [elektron] machindrum and sysex
> 
> 
> > hello,i have lost my midi set up data again,yesterday i have only
> > turned on my md and i have lost midi set up number 1(1 of 8)!! i'
> > think seriously it's a problem of my md!!!
> > please tell me anything and explain me how to use midi ox 
properly...
> > i make a .syx file transmitting all data from md sysex send
> > function...the file is ok...then i delete some patterns on my md 
for
> > veify if when i reload the .syx file there are the patterns i have
> > deleted before...NOTHING,LOST THEM!!...i recieve 32 message,i 
verify
> > using "ver" function on md and it tell me "32 message recieved"!! 
it
> > seems to be ok,but the data isn't the same data i  have saved 
on .syx
> > file....why? midi ox buffers set up is: size 128,num32,delay 
120,but
> > i have also try with normal setup,buffer 256, num16, delay 60...
> > please help me!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

I guess you should check the buffer sizes and delay in midi-ox. Doesn't have
it in front of me here but I'll check

M-.-n

http://n0s.10pm.org/


----- Original Message -----

From: <CARGO1@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] machindrum and sysex


> when i send data from md to midi ox i send 232 messages,when i
> recieve the file md recieve 32 messages,but midi ox send all the
> file!! can you tell me midi ox parameters impostation??
>
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" <nostromo@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Plus if you do a correct dump, you should have at least two hundred
> and
> > something messages.
> >
> > M-.-n
> >
> > http://n0s.10pm.org/
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <CARGO1@I...>
> > To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:03 PM
> > Subject: [elektron] machindrum and sysex
> >
> >
> > > hello,i have lost my midi set up data again,yesterday i have only
> > > turned on my md and i have lost midi set up number 1(1 of 8)!! i'
> > > think seriously it's a problem of my md!!!
> > > please tell me anything and explain me how to use midi ox
> properly...
> > > i make a .syx file transmitting all data from md sysex send
> > > function...the file is ok...then i delete some patterns on my md
> for
> > > veify if when i reload the .syx file there are the patterns i have
> > > deleted before...NOTHING,LOST THEM!!...i recieve 32 message,i
> verify
> > > using "ver" function on md and it tell me "32 message recieved"!!
> it
> > > seems to be ok,but the data isn't the same data i  have saved
> on .syx
> > > file....why? midi ox buffers set up is: size 128,num32,delay
> 120,but
> > > i have also try with normal setup,buffer 256, num16, delay 60...
> > > please help me!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

I've been digging a little on the midi-Ox / MD connection. On my machine, it
works nicely with the following settings:

http://n0s.10pm.org/temp/midi-ox.jpg

When you send all data, do the following checks:

The MD should send 232 messages (at least on my unit running 1.11)
The resulting file size is about 400k (405.596 bytes on my test)
The file is smaller, probably you have a problem with input setting in
MidiOX
Check the file by sending it to the MD in SYSEX REC/VERF mode... you should
get 232 messages and zero errors..

Hope this helps
M-.-n

> Check the file by sending it to the MD in SYSEX REC/VERF mode... you
should
> get 232 messages and zero errors..

Note that my impression is that the verify operation does verify the
integrity of the SYSEX datas recieved but does *not* verify the data
itself... I've been curious and changed one global parameter before doing a
second VERF and still got the 232msg /0 errors...

Once upon a time, M-.-n wrote:

>> Check the file by sending it to the MD in SYSEX REC/VERF mode...

Mn> Note that my impression is that the verify operation does verify the
Mn> integrity of the SYSEX datas recieved but does *not* verify the data
Mn> itself... I've been curious and changed one global parameter before doing a
Mn> second VERF and still got the 232msg /0 errors...

Well, yes and no.  It *does* verify the integrity of the data you are
sending it, by using checksums within the data blocks being sent.

However, if you are expecting it to compare the data against that
which is stored in the MD already, no, this does not occur.  That
would be a data comparison as opposed to a Sysex dump verification...

However, now that you bring this point up, it makes me think that such
a feature would be a very nice addition to an MD editor.  Hmmm.... ;-)


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Best regards,
Adam Watson

soundwithin
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