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Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-08-27 by steril707

A few things i hope Elektron will think about when developing the 
Monomachine Design, because some parts of the MD Design really suck..
I hope they dont repeat those.



* The Adapter should be "standard".. Its difficult to get a 
replacement one, when you are on tour in another country. Makes it 
unreliable to have it with you on Tour. 

* The Adapter should be secured on the chassis. its too easily 
happening that the cable pulls out of the MD. 

* a proper built in powersupply would be the best off course. The MD 
is too heavy? Well, i would gladly swap that for using a lighter 
material instead of that heavy metal chassis.

* the knobs design should be more "steady"..after having 5(!) knobs 
already breaking away (i am having "superfast glue" with me in my 
tourcase now for the emergency), i dont think this "push in and dial 
faster" potis that stand out above the chassis are too professional 
anymore. I would prefer normal potis that last, while being in my 
tourcase, i dont need that gimicky fast-dial.

* A Safe Storage Media adapter should be included. Even my shoddy 
electribe s has a Smartmedia Adapter for storing sequences and data. 
Not everybody has a laptop with him for doing sysex, when being on 
tour, and suddenly things are getting crazy within the md(patterns 
changed, sounds vanished etc. i guess you know what i mean).

* i heard that the internal wiring in the md is 
quite "questionable"..in terms of reliability i hope the Monomachine 
Design avoids that.


I think Elektron asks for prices that would imply such a quality 
standard. And when you are stating "Perfection comes at a price" even 
more.
I like the MD, nothing beats it at playing live and getting crazy 
with it, but quality wise it is giving me a headache since i own it 
(for two years now).
I will watch out for a while before buying the Monomachine.


Cheers,
Steril (Gigolo Records/Lasergun Records)

Re: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-08-27 by M-.-n

I agree with that !

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> > i dont need that gimicky fast-dial
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> I do, I love it! But everyone who uses my MD thinks they
> got it backwards: PRESS should be SLOW for fine adjustments.
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Re: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-08-27 by Daniel Ornelas

> * a proper built in powersupply would be the best off course. The MD
> is too heavy? Well, i would gladly swap that for using a lighter
> material instead of that heavy metal chassis.

the MM has a built in universal power supply (im guessing from the 
picture with the IEC jack attached to the keyboard portion)

> * i heard that the internal wiring in the md is
> quite "questionable"..in terms of reliability
>  i hope the Monomachine
> Design avoids that.

Questionable? Your friends must all be amazing electrical engineers.

-Danny

RE: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-08-27 by Matt Picone

> > * i heard that the internal wiring in the md is
> > quite "questionable"..in terms of reliability

This is ridiculous. The thing is a tank inside and out. Just have a
look. Clean hot solder joints, good components, etc.

Re: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-08-28 by endlessnessisticman

I don't agree though and others like me.  This you may know came up
before and sparked a lot of debate.  I don't because often the sound
changes are not so smooth.  Also there are lot of small adjustments
that will be missed if you are cranking down on the thing.  I just
slide my finger on it like a prayer wheel.  It is also much easier to
program the midi machines, that is all fine adjustments. 

now you are going to voice your opinion and it's not going anywhere. 
maybe there should be an option in the global menu to choose.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
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> > i dont need that gimicky fast-dial
> 
> I do, I love it! But everyone who uses my MD thinks they 
> got it backwards: PRESS should be SLOW for fine adjustments.
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> -M@

Re: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-08-28 by amos luyk

>maybe there should be an option in the global menu to choose.


that's the kiddie =0) opinion has been split on this issue (the majority IMO 
thinking that Elektron got it the wrong way round) and the obvious answer is 
an option in the Global settings. Let's pray that they are actually going to 
do some more work on the MD.....

thinking happy thoughts
amos

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Re: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-09-02 by steril707

> > > * i heard that the internal wiring in the md is
> > > quite "questionable"..in terms of reliability
> 
> This is ridiculous. The thing is a tank inside and out. Just have a
> look. Clean hot solder joints, good components, etc.
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if the md would be a "tank" the potis shouldnt break away that 
easily. i like the fast dial, but i would prefer a more solid 
construction design. if you leave the md in your studio all the time, 
you will never have problems with that. on tour, and with the hazards 
you might encounter there, the knobs are breaking away too easily. 
this happened 5 times already to me, and i really always keep the md 
in my cabin baggage during flights. 


on that issue about the "tank" internal wiring read here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elektron-users/message/2305


one more thing i would like to have on the power supply is the 
possibility to use it in countries with different voltages (110-230 
volt)...the MPC does this, my Novation Nova does this, and for the 
Gear which uses "standard" adapters i can get local ones cheap and 
easily.

greetz...
Steril

Re: Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-09-03 by oldmanfury

? the knobs are breaking away too easily. 
> this happened 5 times already to me, and i really always keep 
> the md in my cabin baggage during flights. 

dude... you have _got_ to get a pelican case.  Or re-pluck the foam 
right if you have one already.  5 times???

-g

Re: [elektron] Monomachine Design wishes (aka MD design flaws)

2003-09-03 by Joe

On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:29:00PM -0000, steril707 wrote:
>    this happened 5 times already to me, and i really always keep the md
>    in my cabin baggage during flights.

then I imagine you don't have an actual flight case (or similar
heavy-duty case) for it.  what's your case setup? because seriously, if
so many MD's can make it to the states without broken pots, then
obviously they're not *that* fragile. because I'm sure that FED-EX
handles packages FAR worse than you do :-)

Joe

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