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9/15/2003 11:26:15 PM, "mimizanmusic" 
<mimizanmusic@...> wrote:

>Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT 
DEAL! Click 
>here for info: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
>mimizanmusic@...

Oh NO you didn't!

-Brandon

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  MONOMACHINE SCALPERS!  That's so dumb.

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 06:26:15AM -0000, mimizanmusic wrote:
>    Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT DEAL! Click
>    here for info: [1]http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
>    mimizanmusic@...

taking advantage of Elektron's generosity = lame.  I hope they
refuse to send this clown his MM(s).

Joe

>taking advantage of Elektron's generosity = lame.  I hope they
>refuse to send this clown his MM(s).
>
Yes.  It's lame... Lame like Corey Haim.  And yeah, I wanted to express
that I hope they cancel his order, too.

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> On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 06:26:15AM -0000, mimizanmusic wrote:
>>    Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT DEAL! 
>> Click
>>    here for info: [1]http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
>>    mimizanmusic@...
>
> taking advantage of Elektron's generosity = lame.  I hope they
> refuse to send this clown his MM(s).

I think we should send out the Elektron MachineThugs(tm) to handle it..

I'll call Guido!

But seriously, thats terrible... What's this guy thinking?

-Danny

> taking advantage of Elektron's generosity = lame.  I
> hope they
> refuse to send this clown his MM(s).

it's unfortunate, but it was bound to happen. I'm sure
more than one of this first 100 are going to hit ebay
well before the official release. what can you do -
people are vultures these days. 

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 02:49:45AM -0400, not known wrote:
>    it's unfortunate, but it was bound to happen. I'm sure
>    more than one of this first 100 are going to hit ebay
>    well before the official release. what can you do -
>    people are vultures these days.

well, selling your MM if you're not happy with it is no big deal to me;
even if it is a beta version being sold before the public release. but
buying one with the outright intention of selling it at an inflated
cost is just wrong. and not a very "friend" thing to do (especially
since many Elektron friends got shut out of buying one).

Joe

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> buying one with the outright intention of selling it at an inflated
> cost is just wrong. and not a very "friend" thing to do (especially
> since many Elektron friends got shut out of buying one).


Very sad indeed :-(
Let's hope they cancel his order....

Grtz. Ronald.

is there some legality that can state that since it is not a full 
monomachine(which is define with a full 1.0 os), that they can't 
deifne it as the certain price of 1900?  becasue it really isn't a 
full monomachine.  it's a very very very wrong thing for them to 
do.  And i hope they cancel this person's order.  The only ebay 
monomachine i expected was from somone who didn't really enjoy it, 
and wished to not have to spend money ot hsip back to sweden.  Very 
disrespectful.  :-/  IO hope elektron finds a way to cancel the 
order.  As i really think hte first 100 beta buyers are that, beta 
buyers, the monomachine's not out till december.  only the beta is, 
which is for testing, creating patches(maybe translated into 
presets), and demo mp3s.   I sincerely hope they take action, if 
they don't, i'm prepared to create a boycott against this particular 
person, and to advertise on as many forums to not buy this 
monomachine, as well as to not buy any other piece of gear sold by 
this person.  definatley an unethical maneuver by this person, which 
might cost him his very sales.  comprimising consumer trust is 
someting that is very bad to do.  and this type of marketing is very 
wrong.  and can seriously damage your business.  Since i believe 
many elektron users are very powerful in user groups which this 
synth is in demand for (lets face it the biggest buyers of early 
monomachines are peopole who are reallly into it), i feel that this 
compromises his entire company's  well being on the market.  which 
also will incur many problems on his name if he wishes to stay in 
this industry.  if people wish to take it to that level of finding 
it that disrepectful, which I do.  Not to mantion elektron also said 
they will release 30 more units in october, due to the demand...so 
his advertisement also lies...false advertisement is a big deal, 
which u can be sued for...:)  well anyways cheers m8s:)  i'm very 
upset at this assholes way to try and rip off elektron.  I hope no 
other dealer simply buys elektorn products under the friends guise 
simply to make extra money.  and to take advantage of elektrons 
amall busines nature, without the best of lawyers gaureunteeing them 
protection of this.  almost like how hte RIAA is attacking 
people ....


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Roonan" <info@r...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> > buying one with the outright intention of selling it at an 
inflated
> > cost is just wrong. and not a very "friend" thing to do 
(especially

> > since many Elektron friends got shut out of buying one).
> 
> 
> Very sad indeed :-(
> Let's hope they cancel his order....
> 
> Grtz. Ronald.

anyone here notice that he has not in any way advertised that this is a BETA release MM without any preset patches, or any other information???  I am sorry, but I have to say that buying a BETA release product through a special limited offer and then turning it around and selling it for an inflated price on a users group is just plain wrong.  Very disappointing.  Why buy it if you aren't even going to try it out???  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mimizanmusic 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:26 PM
  Subject: [elektron] Elektron MonoMachine : For Sale


  Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT DEAL! Click 
  here for info: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
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>>>well, selling your MM if you're not happy with it
is no big deal to me;
even if it is a beta version being sold before the
public release. but
buying one with the outright intention of selling it
at an inflated
cost is just wrong. and not a very "friend" thing to
do (especially
since many Elektron friends got shut out of buying
one).<<<

I see where you're coming from... I guess all I meant
to say is that in this day and age, a move like this
doesn't surprise me much. to be clear: not that I
condone this type of action. I just can't say I'm
entirely surprised either. which is pretty sad, when
you think about it...

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> 
> 9/15/2003 11:26:15 PM, "mimizanmusic" 
> <mimizanmusic@...> wrote:
> 
> >Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT
> DEAL! Click 
> >here for info: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
> >mimizanmusic@...
> 
> Oh NO you didn't!
> 
> -Brandon

Yea especially since I was on the verge of possibly buying one when they all
dissappeared, but no way would I give my money to someone like this. That
really sucks if you ask me.

Don

To Be honest I wanted one too - but I was asleep then at work when I got the
Friend Mail. 
By the time I got home to check the finances and finally order, there was 0
left :(

It seems a shame that this person will do this when at least two other
people were very interested
in the Mono.

Elektron - if you do cancel this order please let us know so someone that
WANTS one could order?

Dave
> 
>> > 9/15/2003 11:26:15 PM, "mimizanmusic"
>> > <mimizanmusic@...> wrote:
>> > 
>>> > >Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT
>> > DEAL! Click 
>>> > >here for info: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
>>> > >mimizanmusic@...
>> > 
>> > Oh NO you didn't!
>> > 
>> > -Brandon
> 
> Yea especially since I was on the verge of possibly buying one when they all
> dissappeared, but no way would I give my money to someone like this. That
> really sucks if you ask me.
> 
> Don





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On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 09:45:35AM +0100, Dave wrote:
>    To  Be  honest I wanted one too - but I was asleep then at work when I
>    got the
>    Friend Mail.
>    By  the time I got home to check the finances and finally order, there
>    was 0
>    left :(

both of you guys (you and the person you're replying to) should go to
the order page NOW and put your name on the waiting list. they'll be
releasing 30 more in a couple of weeks! and I imagine those will also be
gone by the end of today.
								
Joe

On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 04:30:07AM -0400, not known wrote:
>    I see where you're coming from... I guess all I meant
>    to say is that in this day and age, a move like this
>    doesn't surprise me much. to be clear: not that I
>    condone this type of action. I just can't say I'm
>    entirely surprised either. which is pretty sad, when
>    you think about it...

I understand; and I agree.

Joe

> Thanks for the heads up Joe!!!!
> 
> I hope to be with Monomachine soon!
> 
> Dave
> 
>> >both of you guys (you and the person you're replying to) should go to
>> >the order page NOW and put your name on the waiting list. they'll be
>> >releasing 30 more in a couple of weeks! and I imagine those will also be
>> >gone by the end of today.
>                  
>> >Joe




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Elektron has *got* to be happy with the MM response.  

Kudos to everyone!  And - Go, Daniel! Go Daniel! Go
Daniel!  Yeeyyasss!

--- Dave <dave@...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads up Joe!!!!
> > 
> > I hope to be with Monomachine soon!
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> >> >both of you guys (you and the person you're
> replying to) should go to
> >> >the order page NOW and put your name on the
> waiting list. they'll be
> >> >releasing 30 more in a couple of weeks! and I
> imagine those will also be
> >> >gone by the end of today.
> >                  
> >> >Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 


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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Eric Jacobsen wrote:

> Elektron has *got* to be happy with the MM response.  

Yes, we are actually overwhelmed. :) With so little information out we 
didn't hope for the response to be this good. Sorry about that btw, we 
just put all resources in getting the stuff ready instead!

Daniel

> we 
> just put all resources in getting the stuff ready instead!
> 
> Daniel

That's the best way to do things, I think. 
I'm impressed with the excitement. I want to try the MonoMachine badly.
I will save for the first of the non-beta offers.
Congratulations!

-m@

>>>>> Stacey Dodds writes:

  sd> anyone here notice that he has not in any way advertised that
  sd> this is a BETA release MM without any preset patches, or any
  sd> other information???  

untrue.  in the "terms" section it does state "beta".  further,
there's no mention of preset patches being available.  

elektron didn't market or sell these as "not for resale" machines; all
this talk of "cancel the order" &c. sounds like sour grapes to me.  if
elektron's past behavior (namely raising the price of the last 100
sidstations) is anything to go by, they approve of this brand of
capitalism.

hey -- it could have been worse, he could have bought 25 of them.

cheers,
k.

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Well, it's not that bad, is it. We can never control the end use, so if a
customer or two want to do like this it's out of our direct control. Of
course we do not promote that people do some kind of black market of our
friend offers. However, we just announced the release of a few extra units
for the friend beta price. Maybe that will disturb his business a little.
:)

Daniel

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, not known wrote:

> 
> > taking advantage of Elektron's generosity = lame.  I
> > hope they
> > refuse to send this clown his MM(s).
> 
> it's unfortunate, but it was bound to happen. I'm sure
> more than one of this first 100 are going to hit ebay
> well before the official release. what can you do -
> people are vultures these days. 
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "mimizanmusic" 
<mimizanmusic@h...> wrote:
> Elektron MonoMachine for sale. Brand new and sealed. HOT DEAL! 
Click 
> here for info: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4pgq6/mm/mm.htm
> mimizanmusic@h...

  Wow, you really suck at life.

We've all had a good shot at expressing our views on
this.  The predominant opinion - taking advantage of
the market to this degree is not a nice thing to do.

The rights of any party here that may be wronged or
violated is Elektron and it is equally Elektron's call
as to any and what type and degree of action is
required.  Via Daniel's pressence in this thread I'm
sure Elektron knows the issue.

Now that we've expressed our consensus opinion and
given Elektron our support -

Can we close this thread and move on?

Eric

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