Elektron Musical Instruments

Does anybody really work the SLIDE on their Machinedrum?  I have to 
admit I never ever touch it, and I'm curious if anybody is into it.

If anyone has a demo track where they use SLIDE it would be nice to 
hear.

Cheers.

That's an interesting question.  I was trying the Accent not too 
long ago and realized how useless it is.  Maybe we can assign these 
things per track?  (I know this was already answered.)  Maybe we can 
use that accent button for something else.  I'm gonna try Slide now 
that you mention it.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "machinedrum99" 
<machinedrum99@y...> wrote:
> Does anybody really work the SLIDE on their Machinedrum?  I have 
to 
> admit I never ever touch it, and I'm curious if anybody is into it.
> 
> If anyone has a demo track where they use SLIDE it would be nice 
to 

> hear.
> 
> Cheers.

On Tue Dec 16 2003, endlessnessisticman <endlessnessisticman@...> wrote:

> That's an interesting question.  I was trying the Accent not too 
> long ago and realized how useless it is.  Maybe we can assign these 
> things per track?  (I know this was already answered.)  Maybe we can 
> use that accent button for something else.  I'm gonna try Slide now 
> that you mention it.

Accent, useless? Do you program parameter locked volume per step/sound on
all your patterns? If you do that, I can understand your view on accent,
otherwise no.

I've been using accent on level 15 quite a lot now, gets the kickdrum 
really kicking. 

I haven't used slide though, and I never ever go into "classic" mode. No 
need for that. Reassign that button to something else. It's to close to 
the volume pot so you might hit it by accident.

/Janne

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg" <jgb@c...> 
wrote:


I use it sometimes when i recorded parameter locks but I don't want 
them to jump around. With slide you get a smooth parameter glide.
For instance, if you want panning to go from left to right in a 
smooth fasion you simply program a lock left pan on the first note 
and a firm right on the last. When you select all triggers in slide 
the panning will go slow from left to right instead of jumping.

Ronald.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, info@r... wrote:
> I use it sometimes when i recorded parameter locks but I don't want 
> them to jump around. With slide you get a smooth parameter glide.
> For instance, if you want panning to go from left to right in a 
> smooth fasion you simply program a lock left pan on the first note 
> and a firm right on the last. When you select all triggers in slide 
> the panning will go slow from left to right instead of jumping.

I usually just pan with the LFO's; since slide will slide on all
tracks for that step.

Joe.

Funny you should mention that "Classic/Extended" button, I totally 
forgot it even existed!  I can't see the point in that button 
either.  I agree with you about "Accent", which I think is a really 
cool function as well.  I've been playing with the Slide lately and 
it's neat.  The thing with Accent and Slide is that they give you 
instant pattern-wide control over things which (if you want) you can 
achieve on a per-track basis by using LFO's and parameter locks.  
However that Classic/Extended button... what's that for?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg" <jgb@c...> 
wrote:
> On Tue Dec 16 2003, endlessnessisticman <endlessnessisticman@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> > That's an interesting question.  I was trying the Accent not too 
> > long ago and realized how useless it is.  Maybe we can assign 
these 
> > things per track?  (I know this was already answered.)  Maybe we 
can 
> > use that accent button for something else.  I'm gonna try Slide 
now 
> > that you mention it.
> 
> Accent, useless? Do you program parameter locked volume per 
step/sound on
> all your patterns? If you do that, I can understand your view on 
accent,
> otherwise no.
> 
> I've been using accent on level 15 quite a lot now, gets the 
kickdrum 
> really kicking. 
> 
> I haven't used slide though, and I never ever go into "classic" 
mode. No 
> need for that. Reassign that button to something else. It's to 
close to 

> the volume pot so you might hit it by accident.
> 
> /Janne

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "machinedrum99" 
<machinedrum99@y...> wrote:

> achieve on a per-track basis by using LFO's and parameter locks.  
> However that Classic/Extended button... what's that for?

It is useful if you want to try a pattern with other kits.  With it, 
you can take an otherwise langushing pattern and spice it up, 
flipping through different kits.  Of course, once you find a kit you 
like, you put it back in extended mode and change the kit 
permanently, and add locks galore.

-gerald

I do that in extended mode anyway.  I just try loading different kits into 
the pattern.  Is it quicker in classic mode or something?  Anyway, I'll try 
that when I get home.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "oldmanfury" <erinys@s...> 
wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "machinedrum99" 
> <machinedrum99@y...> wrote:
> 
> > achieve on a per-track basis by using LFO's and parameter locks.  
> > However that Classic/Extended button... what's that for?
> 
> It is useful if you want to try a pattern with other kits.  With it, 
> you can take an otherwise langushing pattern and spice it up, 
> flipping through different kits.  Of course, once you find a kit you 
> like, you put it back in extended mode and change the kit 
> permanently, and add locks galore.
> 
> -gerald

You can use classic-button in a very nice way. Load kit you think is 
cool. Hit the classic-button. Now start going trought you patterns. 
Some of them might sound usefull starting point fot building some 
rhythm stuff. Then you copy that pattern to new location and assign 
the cool kit with it in extended mode and start making pattern 
locks. This way you can go throught different patterns in a very 
fast way. I've had some excellent creative staring point with this 
way. Really worth of trying. (it works best, if you had made your 
kicks always to slot 1 and snares to slot 2 and so on...)

Toni.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "machinedrum99" 
<machinedrum99@y...> wrote:
> I do that in extended mode anyway.  I just try loading different 
kits into 
> the pattern.  Is it quicker in classic mode or something?  Anyway, 
I'll try 
> that when I get home.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "oldmanfury" <erinys@s...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "machinedrum99" 
> > <machinedrum99@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > > achieve on a per-track basis by using LFO's and parameter 
locks.  
> > > However that Classic/Extended button... what's that for?
> > 
> > It is useful if you want to try a pattern with other kits.  With 
it, 
> > you can take an otherwise langushing pattern and spice it up, 
> > flipping through different kits.  Of course, once you find a kit 
you 

> > like, you put it back in extended mode and change the kit 
> > permanently, and add locks galore.
> > 
> > -gerald

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "machinedrum99" 
<machinedrum99@y...> wrote:
> Funny you should mention that "Classic/Extended" button, I totally 
> forgot it even existed!  I can't see the point in that button 
> either.

The point was that when we were designing all this parameter lock, 
and kit-locked-to-pattern things, we were afraid people would find it 
too complex. But if parameter locks would be any useful, we needed to 
lock the kit, or it would just sound awful as the machine was 
changed. So we added the classic mode in which the kit would never 
change if you didn't explicitly do it yourself.

Later we found that maybe it confused more people than it helped, 
although some people have found some interesting use for it like has 
been described in other posts. However, the most interesting is that 
someone just asked for it in the Monomachine a while ago in this 
list! He didn't use the term "classic" mode, but wanted the kits to 
stay, and not change when he changed the pattern. So it seems that 
some people like it after all...

Daniel

> Later we found that maybe it confused more people than it helped, 
> although some people have found some interesting use for it like 
has 
> been described in other posts. 

Forgot to mention one interesting use of it: Switch to classic mode 
and then pick up pattern that would play with different kit in 
extended mode. Hit play and it runs with a 'wrong kit', now hit the 
extended mode (while it's playing) and you get wonderfull noises out 
of MD when it changes to right kit in the fly!!

Toni.