Elektron Musical Instruments

Hello all,

I've been lurking for a bit, and considering a MD purchase.  After 
browsing the manual, I stil have a quick question.  Perhaps obvious 
to some, but here goes all the same . . .

Can you edit a chained groups of patterns?  For example, can I chain 
patterns A2, A3, and A4, then start editing such that those three 
patterns play through sequentially while allowing me to edit tracks 
in each pattern as it plays by?  

I hope that made sense; this is how I sometimes work on my current 
machine and would like to retain this flexibility.

Thanks in advance,
ao.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drew_alley" <stuff@a...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I've been lurking for a bit, and considering a MD purchase.  After 
> browsing the manual, I stil have a quick question.  Perhaps 
obvious 
> to some, but here goes all the same . . .
> 
> Can you edit a chained groups of patterns?  For example, can I 
chain 
> patterns A2, A3, and A4, then start editing such that those three 
> patterns play through sequentially while allowing me to edit 
tracks 
> in each pattern as it plays by?  
> 
> I hope that made sense; this is how I sometimes work on my current 
> machine and would like to retain this flexibility.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> ao.

yeah you can do that, you have to be quick with parameter locks to 
make the change before the pattern ends. otherwise they wont lock 
correctly. its easy to drop the tempo and make changes. whats your 
current machine?

It can be a bit hard to set the parameter locks like this, yes.  But
you also got pause.  I can ususally edit two patterns at a time
without stopping.  You could also slow the tempo down.  Midi
sequencing is a little more difficult.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "analogback" <gehayman@h...> wrote:

> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drew_alley" <stuff@a...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I've been lurking for a bit, and considering a MD purchase.  After 
> > browsing the manual, I stil have a quick question.  Perhaps 
> obvious 
> > to some, but here goes all the same . . .
> > 
> > Can you edit a chained groups of patterns?  For example, can I 
> chain 
> > patterns A2, A3, and A4, then start editing such that those three 
> > patterns play through sequentially while allowing me to edit 
> tracks 
> > in each pattern as it plays by?  
> > 
> > I hope that made sense; this is how I sometimes work on my current 
> > machine and would like to retain this flexibility.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > ao.
> 
> yeah you can do that, you have to be quick with parameter locks to 
> make the change before the pattern ends. otherwise they wont lock 
> correctly. its easy to drop the tempo and make changes. whats your 
> current machine?

> It can be a bit hard to set the parameter locks like this, yes.  But
> you also got pause.  I can ususally edit two patterns at a time
> without stopping.  You could also slow the tempo down.  Midi
> sequencing is a little more difficult.

I would love the stay in pattern while MD loops it and few another. 
It's ok like this in Md now, but Monomachine is where it should be 
possible to stay in one pattern and loop others at the same time. It 
really is a pain is the ass to try program melodyes and stuff beyond 
one pattern. Maybe we should start the Monomachine bug/wish list like 
we did with Md while ago...

Toni.

Good to hear it, thanks to all who responded -- this group is a great 
resource for window shoppers like myself ;)

I can see how it might be difficult to do parameter locks while 
playing through several patterns, but I was more concerned about 
general pattern structure / note placement . . .

I'm currently using a TR 707 and am sorta bored w/ the limited sound 
set and am looking for something that'll hold my interest for an 
extended period.  I've also thrown around the idea of getting a 
Monomachine instead, to pair up w/ the 707, but then I think I'd 
still bore w/ untweakable drums.  Suggestions, comments from other 
users on the MD vs. MnM purchase decision?

Thanks all,
ao.

> 
> yeah you can do that, you have to be quick with parameter locks to 
> make the change before the pattern ends. otherwise they wont lock 
> correctly. its easy to drop the tempo and make changes. whats your 
> current machine?

On Oct 10, 2004, at 11:08 AM, drew_alley wrote:

>  Suggestions, comments from other
>  users on the MD vs. MnM purchase decision?

well, it's been discussed quite a bit in here.  so you might want to 
search the
archives for some more elaborations on it.  but briefly, the two are 
very different
in terms of drums. the MD can do A LOT more than the MnM can.  BUT the 
MnM
drums are still great, very usable and highly tweakable.  basically, 
here's my
take on it - if you're missing great drums, go for the MD.  if you're 
happy with
your drums for now, would like a basic extension of them and would 
really
enjoy the MnM in your sound at this time, then go for the MnM.

in short, nothing's a substitute for the MD's drums, but the MnM gives 
you
a taste of them while offering amazing synth sounds as well.

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> I'm currently using a TR 707 and am sorta bored w/ the limited
sound 
> set and am looking for something that'll hold my interest for an 
> extended period.  I've also thrown around the idea of getting a 
> Monomachine instead, to pair up w/ the 707, but then I think I'd 
> still bore w/ untweakable drums.  Suggestions, comments from other 
> users on the MD vs. MnM purchase decision?

I'm using my MD along with my 909, and I couldn't be happier.  While
I 
like the 909 for it's classic sounds, NOTHING compares to the 
versatility of the MD.  I just got my MD, so I've only really 
scratched the surface of what it can do, and everytime I turn it on I 
find new possibilities.

I've never used a MnM, so I can't comment on it's use.  The MD gives 
you so many options without really overwhelming the user (that's a
big 
plus).  If you really like drums, I'd go with the MD.  If you just 
want some better tweakable sounds, but don't need the quantity of 
sounds the MD can produce, the MnM sounds like a more versatile
option 
in terms of all around production value.

Do you already have a bunch of synths you like?  How varied would you 
like your drums?  Those are the kind of questions you should concider.

Jeff

Unfortunately no synths yet, as I've just been using the 707 
alongside my dj set-up; so flexible drums are definately my priority. 
Though, I'm sure a synth will follow shortly . . . 

What appeals to me about the MD is the percussive emphasis w/ the 
ability to get what seems to be a good range of other weird sounds 
out of it as well.

Cheers!

> I've never used a MnM, so I can't comment on it's use.  The MD 
gives 
> you so many options without really overwhelming the user (that's a
> big 
> plus).  If you really like drums, I'd go with the MD.  If you just 
> want some better tweakable sounds, but don't need the quantity of 
> sounds the MD can produce, the MnM sounds like a more versatile
> option 
> in terms of all around production value.
> 
> Do you already have a bunch of synths you like?  How varied would 
you 
> like your drums?  Those are the kind of questions you should 
concider.

I would first go for the MD and later on for the MM, I have both and 
they rule!

-Armand

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drew_alley" 
<stuff@a...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Unfortunately no synths yet, as I've just been using the 707 
> alongside my dj set-up; so flexible drums are definately my 
priority. 
> Though, I'm sure a synth will follow shortly . . . 
> 
> What appeals to me about the MD is the percussive emphasis 
w/ the 
> ability to get what seems to be a good range of other weird 
sounds 
> out of it as well.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> > I've never used a MnM, so I can't comment on it's use.  The 
MD 
> gives 
> > you so many options without really overwhelming the user 
(that's a
> > big 
> > plus).  If you really like drums, I'd go with the MD.  If you just 
> > want some better tweakable sounds, but don't need the 
quantity of 
> > sounds the MD can produce, the MnM sounds like a more 
versatile
> > option 
> > in terms of all around production value.
> > 
> > Do you already have a bunch of synths you like?  How varied 
would 

> you 
> > like your drums?  Those are the kind of questions you should 
> concider.