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MD midi-clock out problem "OS-1.19"

MD midi-clock out problem "OS-1.19"

2004-10-17 by z_flash_ram

I recently purchased a used machinedrum (sounds great, interface is a
dream!, etc.)  I immediately/successfully upgraded its OS to 1.19c.  

After a few days with MD and headphones only I finally tried to use it
as a master clock with my other machines...
this is the 'problem':
The MD "always" sends out its MIDI clock - even when it is stopped. 
(So, as a master clock it is useless becase my other
sequencers/machines are constantly running and wont stop.)
I set my MD MIDI-output to MidiOX and I see a constant stream of MIDI
clock data.

Is this normal? 
I would appreciate any comments before I contact Elektron.

Best Regards
Chris

Re: [elektron] MD midi-clock out problem "OS-1.19"

2004-10-17 by niall munnelly

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 05:00:36PM -0000, z_flash_ram wrote:

> The MD "always" sends out its MIDI clock - even when it is stopped. 
> (So, as a master clock it is useless becase my other
> sequencers/machines are constantly running and wont stop.)

in os1.19c, there are two settings you need to enable:

global -> [slot] -> sync -> tempo out (bpm)
global -> [slot] -> sync -> ctrl out (start/stop/continue)


tempo out shouldn't start and stop your sequencer, unless you have it set to start as
soon as it detects a master clock, independently of start/stop/continue messages.
digital performer has this option, but i keep it disabled for the reasons you've
described.

are you using a sequencer to multiplex your midi beat clock?  if so, which one?  does
it have an option like the one i described?

-- 
yours,
niall.
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Re: [elektron] MD midi-clock out problem "OS-1.19"

2004-10-17 by z_flash_ram

Thanks Niall, setting "ctrl out" to "on" worked for me.  Now it acts
as I have anticipated.

I'm sequencing some hardware sequencers and drummachines, etc.  So, no
MIDI-clock multiplexing here...

Can you point me to a sequencer/device that has that feature???  I've
always wanted to be able to globally divide-down MIDI clock.

Regards
Chris

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, niall munnelly <aleph@a...> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 05:00:36PM -0000, z_flash_ram wrote:
> 
> > The MD "always" sends out its MIDI clock - even when it is stopped. 
> > (So, as a master clock it is useless becase my other
> > sequencers/machines are constantly running and wont stop.)
> 
> in os1.19c, there are two settings you need to enable:
> 
> global -> [slot] -> sync -> tempo out (bpm)
> global -> [slot] -> sync -> ctrl out (start/stop/continue)
> 
> 
> tempo out shouldn't start and stop your sequencer, unless you have
it set to start as
> soon as it detects a master clock, independently of
start/stop/continue messages.
> digital performer has this option, but i keep it disabled for the
reasons you've
> described.
> 
> are you using a sequencer to multiplex your midi beat clock?  if so,
which one?  does
> it have an option like the one i described?
> 
> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
> .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .           
     .
> aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around
silence.
> http://syncretism.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Re: [elektron] MD midi-clock out problem "OS-1.19"

2004-10-17 by niall munnelly

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 07:07:53PM -0000, z_flash_ram wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Niall, setting "ctrl out" to "on" worked for me.  Now it acts
> as I have anticipated.
> 
> I'm sequencing some hardware sequencers and drummachines, etc.  So, no
> MIDI-clock multiplexing here...
> 
> Can you point me to a sequencer/device that has that feature???  I've
> always wanted to be able to globally divide-down MIDI clock.

digital performer and logic (iirc) can both echo received sync to other midi ports.
i'm not sure about windows- or hardware-based sequencers, though, sorry.

that said, you could probably send clock in series if you daisy-chain your devices
(timing may be a concern in this arrangement; YMMV), or in parallel if you have a midi
patchbay that can act as a multiple-thru.  that seems like it would be a good setup if
you have a number of synths running their own sequences that only need timing/control
synchronization.

-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

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