Emax

would it be possible to put the most current os on an eprom and then loose the need to go plus to scisi?

Lorne

 

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jammie
Sent: October-27-13 2:17 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] RE: Emax I HD Plus OS

 

  

 

no because you have not loaded the plus os to disk

 

the emax se hd os1.1 is not the plus os

 

you need the plus os which has the ability

 

to change scsi id by pressing the transpose button for an external zip drive scsi id5 with ttermination on 

 

you need 

 

emaxplus10.zip this is the plus os

 

if you have a zip drive you can use one of teds 20mb full bank image files as they have the plus os written on them 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: chris@... 

To: emax@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 8:47 AM

Subject: [emax] RE: Emax I HD Plus OS

 

  

Thank you guys, it's done!!!

Since my Account-Approval was pendent, I couldn't access the Image File before :-(

Now here, what I've done:

1. Formatted the Floppies with Omniflop
2. Wrote the EmaxSEUpgrade.img with Omniflop to Disc
3. Wrote the Emax SE OS1.1 and the Emax SE HD OS 1.1 with EMXP to Discs.
4. Booted up the Emax with the SE Upgrade Disc
5. Copied the first of the other Updates inside Emax to an existing Emax Bank Floppy Disc and booted with it. Then I did it with the other Update.

Now I have an actual Emax 1 and I can try to attach an external ZIP-Drive.

What I didn't find out yet: Pressing the Transpose-Button should give the possibility to change the SCSI-Number. When I press Transpose it only says "Press a Key" - nothing about SCSI. Is this, because there's only one Harddrive attached?

Thanks again and have a good Sunday.

Chris



---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

emxp uses the emx format img files

 

omniflop software cant read this image file and cant write it

 

it onto a floppy disk 

 

now the omniflop driver is a set of instructions that tells the floppy controller how to write certain formats to a floppy drive

 

emxp uses this driver to tell the floppy controller that its using the emax floppy disk format and so can read and write emax floppy disks

 

and write banks to it

 

as i said emxp and omniflop software are 2 different programs and they dont use each others software

 

they just use the same floppy system omniflop drivers the floppy drive controller drivers and the floppy drive drivers

 

omniflop only does raw.img formats it cant read any others an d wont write any others

 

so emx/out/ghk/dms/and many other floppy formats it cant read or write

 

for these there are other image utilities most are dos based like glieber which does the ensoniq

 

then theres the sdisk .out formats for roland

 

fdisk

 

total commander

 

teledisk

 

and many other image making programs

 

the hxc floppy emulator uses its own format and has drivers to read certain other formats

 

so that its controller can emulate the actual disk format of the actual machine its emulating so the synth or sampler can read and write to the images

 

so the only time you should use omniflop for the emax is to create the se upgrade disk

 

and thats it

 

all other functions should be done with the emxp 

 

emxp works period and i have been using it since esynthesis first anounced it and sent back info for things not working

 

we have alos talked about other formats over the years like the mirage floppy and sample format

 

the korg dss1 is another format talked about as esynthesis made the dss1/dsm1 library available in img format as it was a wierd dos format before that was hard to get to disk so he converted the lot to img format so it could be read and imaged by omniflop software img program

 

the reason why you were having such problems are your confusing the 2 software programs

----- Original Message ----- 

From: jammie <mailto:jammie.emma@...>  

To: emax@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:47 AM

Subject: Re: [emax] Emax I HD Plus OS

 

  

no it cant

 

as the ez1 file is an iso file which is a hd/cdrom img fromat

 

omniflop only does floppy formats upto 400k to 1.44mb

 

the 400k being ensoniq mirage

 

most 720k formats

 

ensoniq 820k formats

 

and many others 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Windrum Scoggin <mailto:windrumscoggin@...>  

To: emax@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:52 AM

Subject: Re: [emax] Emax I HD Plus OS

 

  

So theoretically then 

OmniFlop should be able to

Take an .ez1 image file created in EMXP and write it to floppy disk? 

Anytime I use omniflop it ends up looking for a.IMG file and can tell me if it's recognized

But is unable to write the Emax OS  disk image, even when I direct OmniFlop to the EMX file.  Instead I have to use EMXP or the Emax itself to write an Image file that can be bootable into Emax. and so far due to a bad Emax floppy disk drive I can't even do that's

i've tried several times and to this very day

I've never gotten EMXP, let alone OmniFlop to do so and I've been working with BOTH programs for almost a almost week now, so that should definitely make me an expert  (ha ha)

;)

 

 Question: can  OmniFlop directly copy/clone an Emax Floppy disk created either on an Emax or EMXP/EMX?

so that you could give it to another person and they could load it on their Emax?

On Saturday, October 26, 2013, jammie wrote:

  

you cant use omniflop to write the os

 

you need to write the os in emxp

 

emxp uses the omn iflop driver to format and write to emax floppy

 

but its done inside emxp

 

you use omiflop to write images made

 

and why you write the se upgrade disk in the omniflop software direct and not emxp

 

your confusing the 2 programs

 

emxp = format emax disks write to emax floppy disks

 

omniflop = reading and writing to and from img format raw floppy image files

 

be it emax/ensoniq/korgdss1/korg t 1/2/3/ex and any other format it can create raw images from

 

tyhey are 2 seperate programs

 

emxp just uses the omniflop driver to createw its disks but does not use the omniflop software to write images

 

thats where you are getting confused

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Windrum Scoggin 

To: emax@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:03 AM

Subject: Re: [emax] Emax I HD Plus OS

 

  

Jammie 

Omni flop is a little confusing I will admit.

The problem is Omni looks for an image or .IMG file when it goes to write the OS and as we know Emax OS images are .EMX extensions.

 I think this is where he is getting confused.

Ted has said before and I would have a tendency to agree that the best software disks for an upgrade are the ones written by other Emax Machines already containing the upgrade operating system rather than trying to write one off of omniflop or EMX P or EMX for that matter because if the heads off of alignment in the PC floppy disk drive then The Emax won't be able to use that floppy. That's the very same problem I'm going through right now with mine. I am trying to upgrade to the plus OS SE HD Rev 1.1
I can't do it because my PC disk drives will not write disks that my Emax can read

 So even if on the flop or EMX P or EMX writing good disks my Emacs this drive which is a little kludgy over the years can't read them.

Terrified this I poop bag send me some discs of the plus operating system that he wrote on his machine and I'm going to test them to see if they will load and upgrade mine. If they will I know that my machine has a bad floppy disk drive because it will read this it's written on the end it will read this written by another Emacs machine. It will only read disks it creates for itself. This is why I have a tendency to believe my machine has a bad FDD. it can only read what it can write. Your BMX P and on the flop cannot read disks that my Emax creates.

 

My suggestion is that he take his FDD and create a software floppy off his  own Emax. 

If any MXP or on the flop read that disk chances are he to like me haas  a bad FDD

In his Emax

Just some troubleshooting tips

I had to learn the hard way

For the longest time I thought my problems were all due to eat and XP and an incompatibility with my Windows PC

Fact is it was not a problem with EMXP and my PC it was a problem might Emax floppy disk drive creating disks that EMX P and OmniFlop could not read 

Has he tried to create a disk on his own Emax then take that disk and see if EMX P or OmniFlop can read it? fif they won't read it chances are he has a misaligned  floppy disk drive in his Emax too

 

On Saturday, October 26, 2013, jammieI haven't got the words to tell you anything

You want to hear 

so I just won't try to say anything 

Anymore  wrote:

like i said you need the omniflop img of the se upgrade disk

its under esynthesis name

emxp cant use or create this disk you need to use either dos like ted does
or use omniflop

its the only way

the reason you are getting wrong software is because you have not upgraded
to se

those later os use the code blocks written into the eprom to work anbd why
you get wrong software message
----- Original Message -----
From: "userlists" <userlists@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: [emax] Re: Emax I HD Plus OS


> Is it necessary to use Omniflop?
>
> I have EMXP installed and it works - no error messages. But if the files
> are OK, then I might be to stupid :-(
>
> I put to Floppy:
>
> - Emax OS SE 1.1
> - Emax OS SE HD 1.1
> - Emax OS Plus OS 1.0
>
> I booted up with every of them but only get the message "Wrong Software"
> or "Wrong Software Rev."
>
> I also booted with the regular OS HD 1.1, copied the newer OS to this
> disc and loaded the bank again - also "Wrong Software".
>



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