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Re: [emax] Emax (first one) without floppy...?

2004-10-29 by Bob Conner

Sounds like the drive is toast. I recommend getting a
replacement.

Bob

--- Micke Askern\ufffds <micke@...> wrote:

> Thanks for the tip Bob, unfortunately it keeps on
> accessing the drive and 
> returning with the error message that the disk isn't
> formatted ... regardles 
> if there is or isnt a floppy in the drive =/
> 
> So, my options are:
> 
> 1. find out what mechanics in the floppy that thinks
> there is still a disk in 
> the drive... it is not always hanging, but sometimes
> it actually manages to 
> pass through this state, and sees that there is no
> disk .... 
> 
> What is it in a floppy that sends a signal "hey,
> i've got a disk here!" ... 
> could it be dirty disk headers or something..? .. or
> is it something 
> mechanical?
> 
> 2. see if there is some way of bypassing the floppy
> check during startup, so 
> it skips checking for diskdrive in diagnostics mode
> .... doesnt seem like an 
> easy option ... (bypass floppy check in some emax
> bios?)
> 
> 3. faking the emax with a jumper somewhere that
> gives the right signal back 
> to the machine that there is indeed a floppy. sounds
> like a real tough one...
> 
> 4. build in an additional switch that cuts the power
> to the floppy when it 
> acts up.. this way i can get it to boot and i save
> some power as well, but 
> i'd rather not drill another hole in the case
> 
> So ... I have options, but I'm working on trying to
> get #1 fixed... if i cant 
> do that, i know that option #4 WILL work (works fine
> to just unplug the power 
> cable to the floppy when it is being a jerk) but it
> is a dirty option imho ;)
> 
> Any other input and tips on how to get this work?
> 
> thanks,
> Micke
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:26:41 -0700 (PDT), Bob Conner
> wrote
> > I believe the "disk in drive" change disk signal
> goes
> > down one specific wire in the cable but I can't
> > remember which.
> > I suppose you could install a switch.
> > 
> > I remember doing a lab on this in computer repair
> > school, but it's been several years.
> > 
> > Have you tried putting a blank disk in the drive?
> > Perhaps it will go to the zip if it can't read the
> > floppy.
> > 
> > --- Micke Askern\ufffds <micke@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey all!
> > > 
> > > I have a problem with a faulty floppy drive on
> one
> > > of my machines...
> > > The floppy has a mechanical fault, so it thinks
> > > there is a disk in it, 
> > > therefor bypassing booting from my zipdrive...
> > > 
> > > I can bypass it by unplugging the power chord
> from
> > > the floppy AS it is 
> > > trying to read from a non existent diskette, but
> > > other than that, it is 
> > > pretty much stuck..
> > > 
> > > Also, I've tried disconnecting the floppy from
> the
> > > motherboard, but this 
> > > causes the emax to hang in diagnostics mode, and
> not
> > > boot up at all, due to 
> > > it not getting any clearance from the floppy
> drive..
> > > 
> > > So .. i was wonderinf, is there some way of
> > > bypassing the diagnostics mode, 
> > > or, search for floppy? It is my guess that it is
> > > sending something out to 
> > > the floppy and is awaiting a signal in return
> ...
> > > anyone here have any 
> > > knowledge about this?
> > > 
> > > thanks in advance... in worst case i'll have to
> add
> > > a switch on top of the 
> > > emax to shut off power to the floppy when it is
> > > trying to boot... ;)
> > > 
> > > //Micke
> > > 
> > >
> > 
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