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Re: [emax] Emax (first one) without floppy...?

2004-10-29 by Damon Crowe

hi!

I've just this minute seen this thread, but my I think my old emax II r/m
used to boot from hd?....

I'll get back to you on this....

duh,

damon....



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Micke Askern\ufffds" <micke@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Emax (first one) without floppy...?


>
> Well .. i KNOW its toast.. but i dont WANT to get a replacement cause i've
> never used it .. =)
>
> I want the darn emax to stop trying to boot from floppy and boot from my
> built in zipdrive instead... I cant remove the floppy cause the self
> diagnostics never get past the diagnostics screen when booting up .. =)
>
> I dont want to pay what 70$ us, plus shipping to sweden for a component
that
> i never use and do not need .. ;)
>
> If worst comes to worst, I'll just add a switch that will cut power to the
> floppy after self diagnostics screen has passed ... that way it will boot
on
> my zipdrive instead...
>
> my guess is that it is a mechanical fault with the drive that thinks it
has a
> disk in it .. if so, it should be fixable so the floppy at least doesnt
think
> there's a drive in it ... but might not work anyway.. which would be
fine...
> cause the startup wouldnt halt ;)
>
> //Micke
>
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:13:04 -0700 (PDT), Bob Conner wrote
> > Sounds like the drive is toast. I recommend getting a
> > replacement.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- Micke Askern\ufffds <micke@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the tip Bob, unfortunately it keeps on
> > > accessing the drive and
> > > returning with the error message that the disk isn't
> > > formatted ... regardles
> > > if there is or isnt a floppy in the drive =/
> > >
> > > So, my options are:
> > >
> > > 1. find out what mechanics in the floppy that thinks
> > > there is still a disk in
> > > the drive... it is not always hanging, but sometimes
> > > it actually manages to
> > > pass through this state, and sees that there is no
> > > disk ....
> > >
> > > What is it in a floppy that sends a signal "hey,
> > > i've got a disk here!" ...
> > > could it be dirty disk headers or something..? .. or
> > > is it something
> > > mechanical?
> > >
> > > 2. see if there is some way of bypassing the floppy
> > > check during startup, so
> > > it skips checking for diskdrive in diagnostics mode
> > > .... doesnt seem like an
> > > easy option ... (bypass floppy check in some emax
> > > bios?)
> > >
> > > 3. faking the emax with a jumper somewhere that
> > > gives the right signal back
> > > to the machine that there is indeed a floppy. sounds
> > > like a real tough one...
> > >
> > > 4. build in an additional switch that cuts the power
> > > to the floppy when it
> > > acts up.. this way i can get it to boot and i save
> > > some power as well, but
> > > i'd rather not drill another hole in the case
> > >
> > > So ... I have options, but I'm working on trying to
> > > get #1 fixed... if i cant
> > > do that, i know that option #4 WILL work (works fine
> > > to just unplug the power
> > > cable to the floppy when it is being a jerk) but it
> > > is a dirty option imho ;)
> > >
> > > Any other input and tips on how to get this work?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Micke
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:26:41 -0700 (PDT), Bob Conner
> > > wrote
> > > > I believe the "disk in drive" change disk signal
> > > goes
> > > > down one specific wire in the cable but I can't
> > > > remember which.
> > > > I suppose you could install a switch.
> > > >
> > > > I remember doing a lab on this in computer repair
> > > > school, but it's been several years.
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried putting a blank disk in the drive?
> > > > Perhaps it will go to the zip if it can't read the
> > > > floppy.
> > > >
> > > > --- Micke Askern\ufffds <micke@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey all!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a problem with a faulty floppy drive on
> > > one
> > > > > of my machines...
> > > > > The floppy has a mechanical fault, so it thinks
> > > > > there is a disk in it,
> > > > > therefor bypassing booting from my zipdrive...
> > > > >
> > > > > I can bypass it by unplugging the power chord
> > > from
> > > > > the floppy AS it is
> > > > > trying to read from a non existent diskette, but
> > > > > other than that, it is
> > > > > pretty much stuck..
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I've tried disconnecting the floppy from
> > > the
> > > > > motherboard, but this
> > > > > causes the emax to hang in diagnostics mode, and
> > > not
> > > > > boot up at all, due to
> > > > > it not getting any clearance from the floppy
> > > drive..
> > > > >
> > > > > So .. i was wonderinf, is there some way of
> > > > > bypassing the diagnostics mode,
> > > > > or, search for floppy? It is my guess that it is
> > > > > sending something out to
> > > > > the floppy and is awaiting a signal in return
> > > ...
> > > > > anyone here have any
> > > > > knowledge about this?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks in advance... in worst case i'll have to
> > > add
> > > > > a switch on top of the
> > > > > emax to shut off power to the floppy when it is
> > > > > trying to boot... ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > //Micke
> > > > >
> > > > >
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