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Re: [emax] Re: Program to read EMAX disk images almost ready

2005-10-10 by elmacaco

Thanks e-synthesist, We all really appreciate what you are doing, no pressure, just throwing out some ideas and hopefully making it easier for you at the same time.

I would think the different keys of the same preset, then all samples will be neatly in order in on preset on one key each and you can copy them to a new preset to spread them out as far as you like.  I think it would be more awkward to have to copy voices from other presets to make up say a multisample instrument than to have all the samples in one preset.  Something like a drum program would be the most labor intensive copying and key zoning from multiple presets, yet setting a multisample from a 'drum' mapping of however many samples would be quite quick.

I think the program you describe is perfect, I always hoped such a program existed just to dump waves into the emax.  I never liked sampling from the computer.  I do have a question tho, the sample rate compatibility with the emax, does that include any of the sample rates that on can sample on the emax in?  like 10k, 16k, 22k, 28k, etc?  I know those numbers are rounded, so we will have to convert them to the actual exact sample rate in the audio software correct?

Thanks again for taking this on, I'm not in a rush since I already resolved myself to not have any kind of wav import, so patience is not a problem, although dangling the possibility will cause much anticipation.

If you need a Beta tester, you got one.

E
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: esynthesist 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:45 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Program to read EMAX disk images almost ready


  Hi E.,

  Sure, your advice makes perfectly sense. 
  It would definitely be better to put the sample simply at the 
  originale pitch key and to transpose it yourself on the EMAX. Do you 
  think all WAV files should be put on different keys of the *same* 
  preset ? 

  I thought about it yesterday and I think I'm able to release such 
  program in quite a short period of time. But it would be a very 
  simple program - and I really mean simple (and of course MS-DOS as my 
  programming skills are pre-historical; maybe I should learn about 
  window programming :-)

  The program could be something like:
  1) user puts the WAV files in a dedicated directory
  2) program checks the WAV files:
      - sample rate must be compatible with EMAX (if not, you have to 
  convert it with your favorite sound software)
      - program asks whether EMAX disk image should be compressed EMAX 
  1 or full 16-bit EMAX 2
      - program calculates the EMAX memory usage for each WAV file
  3) program creates the single - or multidisk image with default 
  parameters for VCA, VCF, LFO, etc... 
  4) user uses EMX to make the actual disks
  5) user loads disks into EMAX and does all other editing on EMAX.

  What do you think ?

  Anyway, I'll still finish the reader program first. After this is 
  succesful, I will consider the other thing. A writer program  - even 
  such a simple one - is quite a challenge compared to a reader program 
  because the created image may not contain any errors. I mean: the 
  specifications on which I depend must be 100% correct, otherwise EMAX 
  will crash.

  Anyway I think the alpha version of the reader will be released in 
  the last week of october (besides my synth-time I also have a 
  fulltime job & other things to do and I have to go on a business trip 
  for the whole next week :-)

  Regards,

  ///E-Synthesist


  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >
  > Mmmm... I expected that answer ;c)
  > 
  > Ok, I get what you are saying.  The librarian is still a great 
  program and will be of great use to me for sure.
  > 
  > The bank creation program you describe sounds perfect to me and 
  exactly what I would want.  I just want to be able to get wav files 
  into the emax, all the editing and such would be more fun on the emax 
  than on a computer editor, although that functionality wouldn't be 
  terrible to have either, it is not needed.
  > 
  > The only thing I would think would be important would be something 
  to calculate how much of the emax memory you have used up wit each 
  added wav file so you don't go over the limit, and perhaps the 
  default program having each wav file exist on one key and have that 
  key be it's original pitch.  the latter is so that if you are loading 
  numerous short samples you will be able to find them quickly using 
  the keys or midi for us rack users and reassign any transpositions 
  afterwards in the emax.   If you like I can create the bank with 
  single sample per key assignment if an when you need it.  just let me 
  know what other specifications you may need.
  > 
  > that is my thinking on the matter as it makes the most sense to 
  me.  if it is not possible then it's not a problem.  I'll take any 
  wav importability, it's going to be so much fun. 
  > 
  > and I understand about Chicken systems, totally understandable, 
  although I hope to see you accomplish it.
  > 
  > Thanks again E.
  > 
  > 
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: esynthesist 
  >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:08 PM
  >   Subject: [emax] Re: Program to read EMAX disk images almost ready
  > 
  > 
  >   Mmmm... I expected this question :-)
  > 
  >   The answer is no. The program only *reads* EMAX images, it 
  doesn't 
  >   *write* them.
  >   However it's not very difficult to make such program.
  > 
  >   Anyway I first want to make a stable version of the EMAX 
  Librarian 
  >   reader software. 
  > 
  >   After this is accomplished, I can make a simple program to create 
  >   EMAX 1/EMAX 2 disk images. This program will simply take the .WAV 
  >   files you selected and will put them in "default" presets on an 
  EMAX 
  >   disk image. This means that you will get default VCA and VCF 
  >   envelopes, a transposition of the sample to the whole keyboard 
  etc... 
  >   That disk then can be loaded (via EMX) on your EMAX sampler.
  >   Finishing all preset and voice parameters should be done directly 
  on 
  >   the EMAX.
  > 
  >   An important remark however... I'm also watching Chicken Systems. 
  If 
  >   they succeed in supporting EMAX with their Translator software, 
  and 
  >   they give an EMAX image creator in their free download version, I 
  >   will *not* make that software.
  > 
  >   Regards,
  > 
  >   ///E-Synthesist
  >     
  > 
  >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@h...> wrote:
  >   >
  >   > Wow!  That sounds great!  Thanks so much for doing this.
  >   > 
  >   > Will the alpha version be able to create em1 banks from wav 
  files?
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: esynthesist 
  >   >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  >   >   Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 5:40 PM
  >   >   Subject: [emax] Program to read EMAX disk images almost ready
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   Hi,
  >   > 
  >   >   Just a short message to inform you that during the past few 
  weeks 
  >   I've 
  >   >   been working on that EMAX librarian PC-software I announced a 
  few 
  >   >   messages ago. 
  >   >   It's going to be a PC-program that:
  >   >   - can be started from an HTML 'EMAX Librarian' page
  >   >   - will scan all emax1- and emax2-disk images on its directory 
  >   (images 
  >   >   must have been created with the EMX program)
  >   >   - will make a set of (hyperlinked) HTML pages containing all 
  >   parameter 
  >   >   settings of all presets, voices and samples in each bank
  >   >   - will make .WAV files of all samples 
  >   > 
  >   >   The software is not finished yet but things are going pretty 
  >   well. 
  >   >   The EMAX 1/EMAX 2 disk image parser is ready, as is the core 
  HTML 
  >   >   report generator. But the whole thing needs some further 
  >   refinement 
  >   >   and - of course - some basic testing before I release it to 
  the 
  >   group.
  >   > 
  >   >   I think an "alpha" version will be released to the files 
  section 
  >   of 
  >   >   this group within 1 - 3 weeks (probably 3 :-). That version 
  will 
  >   not be 
  >   >   bug-free (I think) and will not be able yet to report 
  Sequencer 
  >   >   information and Spectrum Synthesis information.
  >   > 
  >   >   A last note: the core software will be a small DOS program 
  but 
  >   don't 
  >   >   panic: you won't have to use DOS ! Everything can be done 
  from 
  >   within a 
  >   >   web browser...
  >   > 
  >   >   Bye
  >   > 
  >   >   ///E-Synthesist  
  >   > 
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