I am just going from what Rob from emulator archive had told me in an email a couple of years ago. I was looking at getting replacement LCD displays. Rob said the original emax had an EL (electro-luminescent) LCD display which was blue (correctly- I sourced that part). The emax 2 that had a green display he said was an LED backlit display. He said the two weren't directly interchangeable. I think the only way to know for sure would be to measure. While the voltage is high, the amps wouldnt be. But I don't have an emax2 to check it for you (as yes, BTW- I have worked as an electronics repair technician). If you are worried, insulate your probes by putting heat shrink on the meter probes, heat it, then only cut off a small bit so just the tips are exposed metal.... just a "tech tip" RE the scsi- that should work. I would think if you did the transpose to change the scsi ID, then you should be able to do the hard drive stuff with your zip. If not- find an old black and white mac. The original ones (I found about 5 at my local goodwill a while back) have the same drive the emax had. I might be able to help you find one for reasonable if you are unable to locate. Thanks, Ted On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:33 AM, esynthesist wrote: > Thanks Ted. Are you sure the Emax-II doesn't use an invertor ? > I'm not a technician, but on its main board there's a black cube on > almost the exact same place as the one in the Emax Plus (labeled > AH125 in the Emax-II). Or is this thing not used for the display ? > > I found this website telling that the LCD display replacement should > be the same for Emulator II, Emax and Emax-II > (http://members.aon.at/virtual-music/zonen_e/e_products_emu.htm). > > Of course I could measure voltage on those pins and compare, but I > don't like measuring high voltages on two pins so close to each > other :-) > > About the SCSI: the sampler doesn't have an internal HD, so I guess I > can simply connect the main 50-pin connector from the main board > directly to the new DB25 connector. I know I won't be able to boot > from the external ZIP, but that's not a problem. > I'm just wondering whether that "OS" chip on IC13 is OK... > > By the way: since I don't have any SCSI device connected to the > sampler at the moment, I noticed that the Plus OS is not very > practical: you can boot the Plus OS from floppy, and it also loads > the bank from that floppy, but when you want to load another floppy, > you can't. The sampler says 'HD Catalog error' because it first wants > to find the banks available on HD, and than give also the '00' > possibility to load from floppy. As it doesn't find a HD, it gives an > error instead of the Floppy alternative. > Seems the engineers didn't really think about that one :-) > Well... I'm using the Emax-SE OS at the moment... > > ///E-Synthesist > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote: > > > > From my understanding, the Emax 2 LCD is backlit by 5 volts and > > doesn't use the inverter (which is ac and not 5 volts). The two > pins > > on one end of the display are coming from the inverter. You could > > take a standard LCD display that is the correct size, and break > the > > conection on the LCD board from the two pins, then wire +5 from > the > > power supply to those points. The same would be true of the EMAX2 > > display). The inverter power would destroy the emax2 backlighting. > I > > dunno what other harm would be caused.... > > > > As to the SCSI- if you have scsi you should be able to add a port > to > > the back. SCSI is scsi. The thing is this, there are really two > ways > > of doing it.... If there is a plug on the board you can come off > of > > it (I did this on mine). > > > > I dunno how much you know about scsi- so here is how you would > make > > this work, if you don't know scsi > > > > If there is no port on the board, get a SCSI cable with an > external > > end (DB25), and two 50pin connectors (like on the board and drive > > connectors) and replace the cable that is in the emax. > > > > On the hard drive is a set of 3 resistor networks by the ribbon > cable > > connection. They might be blue, yellow, red, or black, but are > > removable. They have 8 pins in a single row. These resistors > > terminate the SCSI chain. By removing them, you can add an > additional > > device to the end of that chain (ie- cabling). When you remove > these > > and extend the chain you MUST have a terminator on the external > plug > > if nothing is hooked up to boot the machine, but if you are getting > a > > ZIP drive, it will have termination in it, so as long as it was > > always hooked, you wouldn't need the plug on the external > connection. > > > > And that, as they say, is that..... > > > > Hope it is clear as mud. And thanks for all the work you have done > > for us on the Emax programs (though I haven't used them...yet) > > > > Regards, > > Ted > > > > On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:26 AM, esynthesist wrote: > > > > > I need some help ! > > > > > > I bought the Emax Plus Rack I was talking about earlier. It's > a "Plus > > > SE with SCSI", serial number 002 (!). > > > The sampler works but it has a display problem and quite a strange > > > SCSI chipset: > > > > > > 1. The DISPLAY Problem > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > First of all this machine has a problem with the LCD display. > > > After pushing some buttons, the contrast on the second line goes > to > > > zero and the contrast on the first line goes to the maximum. > > > There's also an annoying high frequency noise coming from the main > > > board (invertor ?) and also from the display (this only when the > > > problem occurs) > > > > > > Now I also have a spare Emax-II rack with a perfectly working > > > frontpanel PCB board & display. > > > I compared the two boards and they look almost the same: > > > - board in Emax Plus = 'Emax Rackpanel version 2 1986' PC328 REV B > > > ASSY REV A (AF133) > > > - board in Emax II = 'Emax Rackpanel version 2 1986' PC328 REV D > > > (no assy) (AF133) > > > The two capacitors on the board however have different numbers - > > > these are actually the only two components on the board which are > not > > > buttons, sliders, display, lights or chip :-) > > > > > > My question: > > > Do you think it's safe to switch these boards ? Maybe it won't > work, > > > that's no problem, but I just want to be sure the Emax Plus won't > get > > > damaged by this experiment. > > > Anyone who can give me some advice ??? > > > > > > 2. The STRANGE Thing > > > -------------------- > > > > > > I also want to add an external SCSI port to the sampler. It's not > > > fitted on the board, and there's no hole in the backpanel either. > > > Now I checked the specs from the sampler: > > > - it's a PC333 Rev B main board > > > - the SCSI 5380 chip is installed on IC6 > > > - the IP379A HD/Plus TIM PAL chip is installed on IC49 > > > ... > > > - but on IC13 there's a 24-pin IP349C chip instead of the IP355 > > > mentioned on www.emulatorarchive.com. > > > However, it is installed on an 28-pin socket. There's also an > IP349 > > > Rev 3 'piggyback' board installed at the left of the main PC333. > > > > > > This is a situation not described in the SCSI Upgrade > instructions on > > > www.emulatorarchive.com. > > > According to the upgrade instructions either the 3 chips have to > be > > > installed or all 3 chips should already have been factory- > installed. > > > If they're not installed, the IC13 should have no 28 pin socket > yet. > > > But mine has... > > > I really don't know what machine I bought, it seems like a > prototype > > > of the Emax Plus... > > > > > > Anyway: can anyone confirm that the specs are sufficient, so that > I > > > just have to add a DB25 SCSI port and a flat cable ? > > > Or should I simply try & check ? > > > > > > Thanks !! > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [emax] Re: Repair and SCSI Upgrade question
2006-09-18 by ted Summers
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