You can adjust the digital volts by turning the pot in the PSU, i do so until 5,30 volts....but no change in the machine, finally there´s a problem on some IC, who knows what are the SSM´s chips??? and the PAL, or the scanner MPU???? i can´t locate in the mobo.... --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote: > > I need more description (do the connectors have labels next to them > like CN14 or J1), to tell you what the connectors are for. Picture > Files do not show on the group email, but you could post them to the > files and then we could see what you are talking about, also. > > Thanks, > Ted > > On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:18 AM, RICARDO JUAREZ wrote: > > > Well... > > I clean all the unit,everything was removed, and found > > nothing special, nothing but a few problems with some > > "Light leds" in the push buttons, there was one with a > > "cold soldering", and some contacts with several > > wearing, I repair it with some glue and new metalics > > contacts, ONe Question: There´s a pair of "sort of > > jacks" (white and light-Blue) in the back of the > > keyboard plaque, in one side and the other side, is > > there any cable attached to they??? because my unit > > has no one........I will check the soldering in the > > PSU... > > Saludos > > Ricardo > > > > --- Wayne Griffin <ingsoc_1979@...> wrote: > > > > > I agree about the 5.05V and the idea of a voltage > > > drop > > > across the digital board. > > > > > > orange = +12V > > > yellow = +5V (5.05V) > > > purple = -12V > > > > > > The +10V on pin 3 of Q2 is also fine because that's > > > either to drive the DC/DC converter for the LCD > > > backlight or maybe something pertaining to the > > > EPROM. > > > [w] > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, my opinion is that there is an issue with > > > the > > > > power supply. > > > > > > > > The 4.92 volt is SUPPOSED to be at 5V. A little > > > > variance is ok, and > > > > higher (5.05V) especially in an older unit would > > > > feed better as it > > > > went across the board. 4.92 is a bit low. Most > > > chips > > > > like 4.95 at > > > > least. And remember the farther you measure across > > > a > > > > board, the more > > > > the volts will drop lower. In fact, if you knew > > > the > > > > correct pin to > > > > test for on the farthest chip physically across > > > the > > > > board from the > > > > power supply, and measure the volt reading on the > > > 5 > > > > volt pin, it > > > > wouldn't surprise me if it is actually much lower > > > > than the 4.92. This > > > > can cause very strange behaviour in logic systems. > > > > > > > > It is possible to attach a PC power supply and > > > test, > > > > without making > > > > it "permanent". Not an ATX, but an older AT style > > > > power supply.... I > > > > would have to see schematics, but am not sure why > > > > there would be a 10 > > > > volt, it seems that should be twelve. If the power > > > > supply is putting > > > > out 10v on a 12v line, then that would be another > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > Be aware that power supplies have what are called > > > > 'rails'. Each rail > > > > is a separate voltage. So the power supply may > > > have: > > > > 1 x 5 Volt rail > > > > 2 x 12 volt rail > > > > > > > > for an example. One 12Volt rail could be ok, and > > > the > > > > other bad, then > > > > the bad side can pull down the power on the good > > > > one. > > > > > > > > I looked at the power supply in my emax when I > > > > first got it. They > > > > used diodes to "crowbar" the voltage regulation > > > > circuit. Not an > > > > uncommon practice back then, but not done often > > > now > > > > (there are better > > > > ways to do this). What I did on my power supply > > > when > > > > I first got the > > > > emax was remove it, and resoldered all the > > > > connections to the parts > > > > on the power supply. There were a couple of "cold > > > > solders" which are > > > > solders that have small cracks in them (sometimes > > > > require a > > > > magnifying glass to see them). They will arc and > > > > connect part of the > > > > time, then lose connection momentarily at which > > > > point the circuit is > > > > broken and no longer works properly. This could > > > > cause the lower power > > > > output as well as the strange behaviour. You can > > > > resolder all the > > > > parts on the power supply, then if that doesn't > > > seem > > > > to help, get the > > > > PC power supply and hook in place of the original > > > > supply to do a test... > > > > > > > > Just a couple of thoughts. > > > > But what do I know. Having worked as a repair tech > > > > for 17 years on > > > > electronic equipment.... I don't know anything ;-) > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:51 PM, RICARDO JUAREZ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yep!,I still need a method for verify the 5v of > > > > the > > > > > digital, Why we need to measure VR1?????, and > > > how > > > > you > > > > > do that???? > > > > > Más Saludos > > > > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > > > --- ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That IC is still available (just google it- > > > > someone > > > > > > will sell you a > > > > > > single one- may have to do a bit of email to > > > get > > > > it) > > > > > > and one bad IC > > > > > > can cause others ICs to heat up as well.... > > > > > > > > > > > > But I would still verify the Power Supply > > > > first..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx, > > > > > > Ted > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2007, at 6:28 AM, RICARDO JUAREZ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi!: > > > > > > > Here´s what a found: IC 14(NS32008) gets > > > very > > > > hot, > > > > > > IC > > > > > > > 14 , 9 and IC 17 gets hot, also when you > > > play > > > > the > > > > > > > keyboard there´s is sound, not in scale, > > > > > > additionally > > > > > > > as you play, the menu´s system changes going > > > > from > > > > > > > everything to everything > > > > > > (master---traspose---change > > > > > > > patches---select, etc)even performs a > > > sequence > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > diskette and blocks the keyboard....tottally > > > a > > > > > > mess. > > > > > > > When you push a button in the panel the > > > system > > > > > > crash > > > > > > > and no sound and changes, hanging the last > > > > > > > note.....despite all this stuff, the patches > > > > > > sounds > > > > > > > very good. Really there´s some processor not > > > > doing > > > > > > > well its job, i don´t think i can find one > > > of > > > > > > these > > > > > > > IC´s nowadays, is there any method for > > > > reseting > > > > > > this > > > > > > > devices. > > > > > > > Saludos > > > > > > > ricardo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Wayne Griffin <ingsoc_1979@...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the IC #'s on the chips? What do > > > > the > > > > > > chips > > > > > > > > say on them??? Did you also reseat > > > > *everything*, > > > > > > > > todos > > > > > > > > on the second board, attached to the > > > > > > motherboard? > > > > > > > > [w] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- RICARDO JUAREZ <cheju_99@...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne: > > > > > > > > > Could you be more specific about the > > > test > > > > of > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Re: Emax power supply
2007-05-01 by cheju_99
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