Emax

Hi Lyn,

I suspect the Emax sequencer may actually only be 24 ppqn, the same as
MIDI clock. That is fine if everything is tightly on the beat, but one
clock of error puts your events off by ~21mS at 120 BPM. You might get
away with that for strings but for drums etc its way off. Its a real
shame Emu never included a quantise feature.

Regards,

Tristan

Saturday, May 10, 2008, 9:50:11 PM, you wrote:

>
One reason why you're having timing problems could be your host sequencers ppqn
is too fast for the Emax to interpret accurately.

I would imagine the Emax seq is running at 96 ppqn, as were most back then.
Now a modern-day seq, like Cubase SX, will be running at something like 3840 ppqn.

So, if any patterns are not hard-quantised, the Emax won't be able to capture the feel -
no matter how you record.

just a thought

Lyn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chip 
To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: [emax] Re: EMXP, best software EVER?

The problem isn't real time sequencing from seq/pc to emax. When 
your're downloading or playing sequences from seq/pc all sounds good 
(I use mp401 port), but the problem comes when you record them to the 
emax sequencer, and play it from there (it's not play-timming 
problem, because the notes that sounds out-of-time are always in the 
same place. I've tried to record track by track, all track together, 
at slows tempo, at normal tempo, with the emax in slave, with no 
tempo reference, and even with the emax set at faster tempos than the 
sequence (for having more resolution in tpq).

I'm going to record a sequence that I use in live performances to 
show you these timing problems (there are small but perceptive for 
the musician ear)

chip.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "gadgetfiddler" <gadgetfiddler@...> 
wrote:
>
> isn't it possible to route all of your midi hardware through a 
> computer and then adjust timing offsets with software... isn't that 
a 
> lot easier? i don't understand how copying sequences to an emax 
could 
> resolve any issues, if timing is off and you trigger a sequence it 
> would still be offtime. am i missing something?
> I don't know if you're refering to usb synths/samplers or computer 
> usb, but if it's computer usb i'd suggest using your soundcard 
> instead. i've never had any timing issues playing my emax along 
with 
> other samplers via midi from sequencer software routed through an 
> mpu401 compatible soundcard. any typical soundcard found in a 
trashed 
> computer is suitable... and free. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <xtr909x@> wrote:
> >
> > that's exactly what i mean tristan!!!
> > 
> > the conversion from standard midi to emax would be a great tool. 
> (we 
> > only need note on/off, velocity, mod/pitch wheel, midi channels 
and 
> > tempo information)
> > OK it's a scratch seq, but it could be very very very useful for 
> live 
> > performances. (like factory -well quantized- sequences)
> > 
> > 
> > tnx for your answers!
> > 
> > chip
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan Upton" <tu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Transferring sequences between EII, EIII and Emax is not so 
> useful. 
> > > 
> > > It would be great to be able to convert Emax sequences to/from 
> > standard MIDI 
> > > files. Then you could take sequences from a computer sequencer 
> and 
> > load them 
> > > into the Emax with precise timing. Playing in via MIDI is 
> > problematic given 
> > > the less than stable timing most USB MIDI interfaces provide. 
> Using 
> > the 
> > > external clock input to drive the Emax sequencer should allow 
> much 
> > tighter 
> > > playback timing than is possible via MIDI. 
> > > 
> > > Are you able to share the documentation on the Emax sequencer 
> > format? There 
> > > is virtually no documentation in Emax the manual on the timing 
> > resolution 
> > > and what messages are supported by the sequencer. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks, 
> > > 
> > > Tristan 
> > > 
> > > esynthesist writes: 
> > > 
> > > > Hi Chip 
> > > > 
> > > > After moving to another house I'm online again :-)
> > > > But my whole studio/lab is to be built completely from 
scratch 
> > again, 
> > > > except for the machines themselves...
> > > > So I'm "out of Emu business" for at least another few weeks.
> > > > Anyway, thx for appreciating the EMXP tool. 
> > > > 
> > > > But what exactly do you mean by "managing sequences".
> > > > Do you want EMXP to be able to convert sequences between 
> > different 
> > > > samplers ? E.g. translating EMUII sequences to EMAX ?
> > > > That was not on my priority list because I thought no one was 
> > really 
> > > > using the builtin sequencers of these Emu machines (due to 
> > scratchpad 
> > > > restrictions).
> > > > I already have the specs of the EMAX/EMAXII sequences, but 
not 
> > yet of 
> > > > the other samplers (EIII, EII). So that feature would take 
> quite 
> > some 
> > > > time... Especially with the EIII sequences, because the EIII 
> > > > sequencer is much more advanced than the other vintage EMU 
> > samplers. 
> > > > 
> > > > Can you clarify your request ? 
> > > > 
> > > > ///E-Synthesist 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <xtr909x@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> This post is only to be thankful of EMXP. This soft makes me 
> > love 
> > > > my 
> > > >> Emax even more. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> I only have 1 question/suggestion for E-Synthesist: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Would be possible to add to empx the ability of manage 
> sequences 
> > in 
> > > >> Emax banks?, and/or make a conversion to midi?. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> If some day EMPX can do that, I never going to buy any new 
> > hardware 
> > > >> anymore. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> cheers! 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Chip 
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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