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Re: Send sample from Mac via midi dump with C6 soft

2009-02-02 by esynthesist

Today I checked if MIDI SDS is working fine on the Emax-I.
And it does. 
But the samples must be in 12-bit unsigned format. I don't know if C6 
or any other sample dump software supports this. The tests I've done 
were with MIDI-OX but that's not the best tool to do sample dumps 
with :-)
And I used the Emax Plus OS.

///E-Synthesist
--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
>
> If the Emax-I supports SDS then it would be possible to make 
software 
> which uses the standard MIDI ports to send/receive complete .EM1 
> banks to/from the Emax. As far as I remember the Emax-II supports 
> SDS, but I'm not sure about the Emax-I and I also don't know about 
> the 12bit/16bit requirement (perhaps I will check this one of these 
> days).
> 
> Anyway, in both cases you have to be aware that this operation mode 
> will be VERY slow. Sending 512K of sample data across 31.25 kBaud 
> lines will take some time (up to minutes...).
> This software can be built for Windows, Mac and Linux, but at this 
> point in time I don't have a "modern" Mac sitting here...
> EMXP can be extended with this MIDI dump function, but I'd rather 
> wait with this feature until the RS422 hardware project is finished 
> (see other messages). The advantage of the RS422 is its speed. But 
> once I write software for RS422, I can make it compatible with full 
> (slow) MIDI SDS also.
> 
> Of course you can use already any MIDI scripting tool for Mac, but 
> then you'll have to insert different MIDI instructions (manually ?) 
> for each different .EM1/.EM2 bank. I guess this is not what 
> musicians/producers call a great solution for getting a good flow 
in 
> the production process :-)
> 
> Related to your panning (stereo field) issue: this is most probably 
> caused by the difference in the Emax-I "Dual Voice" definition and 
> the Emax-II "Stereo Voice" definition. If these settings are OFF, 
> you'll not encounter any problem. 
> But once they're ON, the translated results can have panning 
> problems. I know that EMXP also suffers from this: I just 
translated 
> my whole Emax-II library to Emax-I with EMXP and I have panning 
> problems too. I was thinking about changing EMXP in such way that 
it 
> doesn't set Dual Voice ON (Emax-I) when the Stereo Voice is ON 
(Emax-
> II), but I'm still doubting because Emu itself is also translating 
> these parameters like this (= when you save a bank on Emax-II into 
> compressed format, like you did). 
> Anyway: you could try to set Stereo Voice OFF before saving it to 
> compressed format on an Emax-II, or you can switch Dual Voice OFF 
> after loading it on an Emax-I.
> But be aware that - by doing this - you *may* be solving panning 
> problems but *may* also be introducing other important sound 
> differences...
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "poumpoumchak" <cruising@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello esynthesist,
> > 
> > Thanks for your answer. The idea to have a link between Mac/PC 
and 
> the
> > emax1 (andII) is really a great hope.
> > As (many) a mac user(s) , I don't actually have solution to make 
any
> > evolution in the Emax1/II banks or to import existing banks, and 
the
> > old softs solutions are really difficult to use in a fluent studio
> > working (I have dowloaded alchemy, olds macUU and lc475,630,g4.., 
> but
> > no more serial midi port).
> > The little midi dump soft C6 permited me to send samples from my 
G5 
> to
> > the emaxII, and it was for me a really great victory : i was 
wayting
> > for that since nearly 15 years : the last bank exchange i could 
made
> > was between a Prophet 2000 and Mac Sound Designer such a long 
ago...
> > And creating presets to manages these dump samples in the Emax is
> > really not easy with a 2 lines display...
> > So, the Rs422 adapter (usb?) would be really welcome an if EMXP 
> could
> > be used with, it would be a new life for the Emaxs...
> > 
> > I tried to make a little test last week : to mount the same bank 
> from
> > the EmaxII in the EIIIxp, EIVUltra, and in the Emax1 via 
compression
> > and floppy save from the EmaxII. (This was to sample and compare 
> > results in my Daw with a same midi file play).
> > The compressed banks coming from the Emax II have a panning 
problem
> > when I load them on the Emax1 : I have +- 85 % of the sound left 
and
> > 15% right or the inverse, depending on the banks. Did I made 
wrong a
> > step ? Is there a way to avoid this problem ?
> > 
> > Is it possible (with C6 or other soft) to send to the Emax1 
samples
> > via midi dump ? 
> > Have these samples to be 12 bits ? I tried to send 16 bits 
samples 
> and
> > the Em1 sent me a handshaking problem answer. Is it because of the
> > format, or the sds implementation ?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance (and long way to EMXP !)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently there's no way to transfer complete banks via MIDI 
> sysex 
> > > towards the Emax (I/II), except for the vintage "Sound Designer 
> for 
> > > Emax" Mac software which is capable of doing something like 
this 
> but 
> > > it only works for Emax-I.
> > > Some members on this board were also trying to build a piece of 
> > > hardware which can "replace" the RS422 ports of the old Mac, 
and 
> > > which can be connected to a new PC or Mac. Once this is done, 
> it's a 
> > > simple thing to create software for both Windows and Mac which 
is 
> > > able to do exactly what you're asking for.
> > > But I didn't hear from those guys for some time anymore, so I 
> assume 
> > > their experiments are not successful :-)
> > > As far as I know, Chickensys Translator does not support MIDI 
> > > communication with any sampler. They focus on file- or disk 
based 
> > > translations (like EMXP) but it's true that there's some delay 
on 
> > > full support for the Emax-II. As far as I know the current 
> version 
> > > already supports Emax-II in "some way" (not Emax-I).   
> > > 
> > > By the way, Rei: I'm very sorry to hear that this is your 
opinion 
> > > about EMXP... 
> > > 
> > > ///E-Synthesist 
> > > 
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rei" <vjrei@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please, go over with your request to the people of chicken 
> systems. 
> > > I have been asking them 
> > > > for ever to have suport for the emax II samplesr and they 
told 
> me 
> > > that by las October they 
> > > > probably had something.
> > > > 
> > > > I believe that with preassure they can spend some good time 
> into 
> > > the emax compatibility 
> > > > because the EMXP is too absurrb and I really need a Mac 
> software as 
> > > well just because the 
> > > > emax still amazing!!!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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