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Re: [emax] Re: Send sample from Mac via midi dump with C6 soft

2009-02-02 by cruising

Hello Ted,

Thanks for your answer. I shall open the Emax1 for the first time (in  
more than fifteen years) tomorrow.

Best regards
Poumpoumchak


On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Ted Summers wrote:

> If your Emax is SE HD, you do not need an upgrade.
>
> To utilize a second external drive you need:
> Plus OS 1.0 to boot from
> External adapter / connector for the SCSI chain already present in  
> the Emax.
> You may need to remove drive termination, and put termination on your
> external device you are adding, or, when the external is not  
> connected,
> connect terminator directly on the port.
>
> To use the external, you hold down Transponse, and select SCSI ID  
> of the
> external device (other than ID 0).
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:05 PM, cruising <cruising@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Ted,
> >
> > Thanks for your answer. My Emax1 is a SE HD, and already have a hard
> > drive.
> > Would the upgrade permit to have a second one or an extra strorage
> > (Zip 250? removable rack hard disk ?)
> >
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Ted Summers wrote:
> >
> > > SCSI upgrade has nothing to do with the Mac connectivity that I am
> > > aware of.
> > >
> > > I don't think Emax 1 has SCSI dump.
> > >
> > > The SCSI upgrade will allow you to:
> > > 1) Boot faster
> > > 2) Save 35 banks to HD, Zip, or compact flash/SD. - 1 flash is  
> much
> > > easier
> > > to work with than 35 floppy disks.
> > > 3) Switch banks in a very short time (couple of seconds).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, poumpoumchak  
> <cruising@...<cruising%40free.fr>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Esynthesist,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for this good new ! I could not do the test myself : I
> > > have no
> > > > more soft at this time in the Mac able to save samples as 12  
> bits
> > > > lengh, and could not find any converter to 12 bits... and C6  
> does
> > > not
> > > > convert anything (it only sends Wav, Aiff, and Sns Files). I  
> read
> > > > again the Emax1 manual and did not found anything speaking about
> > > midi
> > > > dump. I looked at midi-OX that would be interesting..but one  
> more
> > > time
> > > > not for mac.
> > > >
> > > > About the compatibility of the compressed banks from the  
> EmaxII, I
> > > > made a new test today with a bank of single samples (with the  
> device
> > > > dual off) on the EmaxII when saving, and had again a strange  
> panning
> > > > when loaded in the Emax1 (+-85% an+-15% again) I shall try
> > > tomorrow to
> > > > find the pan function in the E1 and understand why.
> > > >
> > > > If you want me to test some softs evolutions on Mac, I can do  
> it for
> > > > you (actually with a PPC Mac Pro 2 x 2,5Ghz)under os X.4.11, and
> > > soon
> > > > with Intel processor (just waiting for the next generation of  
> Mac
> > > Pro)
> > > >
> > > > A last question : what would permit the Ted Summers SCSI upgrade
> > > to do
> > > > for a Mac user ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, "esynthesist"
> > > > <esynthesist@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Today I checked if MIDI SDS is working fine on the Emax-I.
> > > > > And it does.
> > > > > But the samples must be in 12-bit unsigned format. I don't  
> know
> > > if C6
> > > > > or any other sample dump software supports this. The tests  
> I've
> > > done
> > > > > were with MIDI-OX but that's not the best tool to do sample  
> dumps
> > > > > with :-)
> > > > > And I used the Emax Plus OS.
> > > > >
> > > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "esynthesist"
> > > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the Emax-I supports SDS then it would be possible to make
> > > > > software
> > > > > > which uses the standard MIDI ports to send/receive  
> complete .EM1
> > > > > > banks to/from the Emax. As far as I remember the Emax-II
> > > supports
> > > > > > SDS, but I'm not sure about the Emax-I and I also don't know
> > > about
> > > > > > the 12bit/16bit requirement (perhaps I will check this  
> one of
> > > these
> > > > > > days).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, in both cases you have to be aware that this
> > > operation mode
> > > > > > will be VERY slow. Sending 512K of sample data across 31.25
> > > kBaud
> > > > > > lines will take some time (up to minutes...).
> > > > > > This software can be built for Windows, Mac and Linux,  
> but at
> > > this
> > > > > > point in time I don't have a "modern" Mac sitting here...
> > > > > > EMXP can be extended with this MIDI dump function, but I'd
> > > rather
> > > > > > wait with this feature until the RS422 hardware project is
> > > finished
> > > > > > (see other messages). The advantage of the RS422 is its
> > > speed. But
> > > > > > once I write software for RS422, I can make it compatible
> > > with full
> > > > > > (slow) MIDI SDS also.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course you can use already any MIDI scripting tool for
> > > Mac, but
> > > > > > then you'll have to insert different MIDI instructions
> > > (manually ?)
> > > > > > for each different .EM1/.EM2 bank. I guess this is not what
> > > > > > musicians/producers call a great solution for getting a good
> > > flow
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the production process :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Related to your panning (stereo field) issue: this is most
> > > probably
> > > > > > caused by the difference in the Emax-I "Dual Voice"
> > > definition and
> > > > > > the Emax-II "Stereo Voice" definition. If these settings are
> > > OFF,
> > > > > > you'll not encounter any problem.
> > > > > > But once they're ON, the translated results can have panning
> > > > > > problems. I know that EMXP also suffers from this: I just
> > > > > translated
> > > > > > my whole Emax-II library to Emax-I with EMXP and I have  
> panning
> > > > > > problems too. I was thinking about changing EMXP in such way
> > > that
> > > > > it
> > > > > > doesn't set Dual Voice ON (Emax-I) when the Stereo Voice  
> is ON
> > > > > (Emax-
> > > > > > II), but I'm still doubting because Emu itself is also
> > > translating
> > > > > > these parameters like this (= when you save a bank on  
> Emax-II
> > > into
> > > > > > compressed format, like you did).
> > > > > > Anyway: you could try to set Stereo Voice OFF before saving
> > > it to
> > > > > > compressed format on an Emax-II, or you can switch Dual  
> Voice
> > > OFF
> > > > > > after loading it on an Emax-I.
> > > > > > But be aware that - by doing this - you *may* be solving  
> panning
> > > > > > problems but *may* also be introducing other important sound
> > > > > > differences...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "poumpoumchak"
> > > > <cruising@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello esynthesist,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your answer. The idea to have a link between  
> Mac/PC
> > > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > emax1 (andII) is really a great hope.
> > > > > > > As (many) a mac user(s) , I don't actually have  
> solution to
> > > make
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > evolution in the Emax1/II banks or to import existing
> > > banks, and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > old softs solutions are really difficult to use in a  
> fluent
> > > studio
> > > > > > > working (I have dowloaded alchemy, olds macUU and
> > > lc475,630,g4..,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > no more serial midi port).
> > > > > > > The little midi dump soft C6 permited me to send samples
> > > from my
> > > > > G5
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the emaxII, and it was for me a really great victory :  
> i was
> > > > > wayting
> > > > > > > for that since nearly 15 years : the last bank exchange i
> > > could
> > > > > made
> > > > > > > was between a Prophet 2000 and Mac Sound Designer such  
> a long
> > > > > ago...
> > > > > > > And creating presets to manages these dump samples in the
> > > Emax is
> > > > > > > really not easy with a 2 lines display...
> > > > > > > So, the Rs422 adapter (usb?) would be really welcome an if
> > > EMXP
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > be used with, it would be a new life for the Emaxs...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried to make a little test last week : to mount the  
> same
> > > bank
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the EmaxII in the EIIIxp, EIVUltra, and in the Emax1 via
> > > > > compression
> > > > > > > and floppy save from the EmaxII. (This was to sample and
> > > compare
> > > > > > > results in my Daw with a same midi file play).
> > > > > > > The compressed banks coming from the Emax II have a  
> panning
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > > when I load them on the Emax1 : I have +- 85 % of the  
> sound
> > > left
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > 15% right or the inverse, depending on the banks. Did I  
> made
> > > > > wrong a
> > > > > > > step ? Is there a way to avoid this problem ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it possible (with C6 or other soft) to send to the  
> Emax1
> > > > > samples
> > > > > > > via midi dump ?
> > > > > > > Have these samples to be 12 bits ? I tried to send 16 bits
> > > > > samples
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > the Em1 sent me a handshaking problem answer. Is it  
> because
> > > of the
> > > > > > > format, or the sds implementation ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance (and long way to EMXP !)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <emax%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "esynthesist"
> > > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently there's no way to transfer complete banks  
> via MIDI
> > > > > > sysex
> > > > > > > > towards the Emax (I/II), except for the vintage "Sound
> > > Designer
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > Emax" Mac software which is capable of doing  
> something like
> > > > > this
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > it only works for Emax-I.
> > > > > > > > Some members on this board were also trying to build a
> > > piece of
> > > > > > > > hardware which can "replace" the RS422 ports of the  
> old Mac,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > which can be connected to a new PC or Mac. Once this is
> > > done,
> > > > > > it's a
> > > > > > > > simple thing to create software for both Windows and Mac
> > > which
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > able to do exactly what you're asking for.
> > > > > > > > But I didn't hear from those guys for some time anymore,
> > > so I
> > > > > > assume
> > > > > > > > their experiments are not successful :-)
> > > > > > > > As far as I know, Chickensys Translator does not support
> > > MIDI
> > > > > > > > communication with any sampler. They focus on file-  
> or disk
> > > > > based
> > > > > > > > translations (like EMXP) but it's true that there's some
> > > delay
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > full support for the Emax-II. As far as I know the  
> current
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > already supports Emax-II in "some way" (not Emax-I).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > By the way, Rei: I'm very sorry to hear that this is  
> your
> > > > > opinion
> > > > > > > > about EMXP...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <emax%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Rei"
> > > > <vjrei@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please, go over with your request to the people of  
> chicken
> > > > > > systems.
> > > > > > > > I have been asking them
> > > > > > > > > for ever to have suport for the emax II samplesr  
> and they
> > > > > told
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > that by las October they
> > > > > > > > > probably had something.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe that with preassure they can spend some good
> > > time
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the emax compatibility
> > > > > > > > > because the EMXP is too absurrb and I really need a  
> Mac
> > > > > > software as
> > > > > > > > well just because the
> > > > > > > > > emax still amazing!!!
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