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Re: [emax] Sound Design

2009-07-14 by ss

I completely agree, Brooks.  Some of these new tools have made huge  
leaps
in sound design work.  I find I'm jumping into Melodyne Studio  
constantly
while putting a piece together no matter what it is.

But you're right about the Ableton sound lacking something:  we've all  
been
talking about it here...  I described it to a friend as sounding like  
the "music
you hear in a toy shop..." and he jumped up and down and said:  "Yeah!
That's exactly it!"

But we can't figure-out why that is so...

I won't fool around:  I pull out the Emax, Prophet or Minimoog or
whatever I have to get that PUNCH, RING, POWER, or whatever it is
that I'm looking for that I just cannot seem to get with a PlugIn.

The source material always has to have power from the beginning or
nothing happens for me after the face with any of these tools otherwise.

I WISH Bias would look at Alchemy and add some of the features to Peak  
Pro
that they had in Alchemy all along and that made it such a great  
tool!  The
spectrum resynthesis and analysis, and amplitude envelope copying and
pasting are a couple of great examples!  I just made tons of material  
with
just those two features of Alchemy "back in the day...".

I'm finding that NI's Battery for drums and percussion is quite useful!

I had an interesting experience with NI's stuff:  I was over at a  
friends
house with my laptop with Reaktor on it and started playing with  
Metaphysical
Function, and both the Mom and one of the children held their ears
because of the harshness and what I can only call "brutality" of the  
sounds.
The volume was low, but the NI sound can be REALLY VISCERAL.

My Emax can be very warm and soothing in comparison.  Access Virus  
strings
are another great warm soothing sound.  I love the Virus strings!!!  :-)

Would be really interesting to take sampled clips and chunks of sound  
from
the NI instruments and work with them in the Emax because of the  
dithering
and aliasing of the sound!  That would be very cool!  Have not tried  
that one
yet, but I'm going there!  (NI has the "punch", but really doesn't  
have the "warmth")

:-)

Like Jammie says:  using the small bits of sampled material that is  
*quality* material
is the way to go!

On 14 Jul 2009, at 14:03, Brooks Mosher wrote:

>
>
> i think tools like Ableton Live have made things so much easier for  
> working
> with large samples. you can do things within minutes that would have  
> taken
> hours in the past. but the sound quality to me seems a bit drab or  
> has less
> character than something like an Emax.
>




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