I completely agree, Brooks. Some of these new tools have made huge leaps in sound design work. I find I'm jumping into Melodyne Studio constantly while putting a piece together no matter what it is. But you're right about the Ableton sound lacking something: we've all been talking about it here... I described it to a friend as sounding like the "music you hear in a toy shop..." and he jumped up and down and said: "Yeah! That's exactly it!" But we can't figure-out why that is so... I won't fool around: I pull out the Emax, Prophet or Minimoog or whatever I have to get that PUNCH, RING, POWER, or whatever it is that I'm looking for that I just cannot seem to get with a PlugIn. The source material always has to have power from the beginning or nothing happens for me after the face with any of these tools otherwise. I WISH Bias would look at Alchemy and add some of the features to Peak Pro that they had in Alchemy all along and that made it such a great tool! The spectrum resynthesis and analysis, and amplitude envelope copying and pasting are a couple of great examples! I just made tons of material with just those two features of Alchemy "back in the day...". I'm finding that NI's Battery for drums and percussion is quite useful! I had an interesting experience with NI's stuff: I was over at a friends house with my laptop with Reaktor on it and started playing with Metaphysical Function, and both the Mom and one of the children held their ears because of the harshness and what I can only call "brutality" of the sounds. The volume was low, but the NI sound can be REALLY VISCERAL. My Emax can be very warm and soothing in comparison. Access Virus strings are another great warm soothing sound. I love the Virus strings!!! :-) Would be really interesting to take sampled clips and chunks of sound from the NI instruments and work with them in the Emax because of the dithering and aliasing of the sound! That would be very cool! Have not tried that one yet, but I'm going there! (NI has the "punch", but really doesn't have the "warmth") :-) Like Jammie says: using the small bits of sampled material that is *quality* material is the way to go! On 14 Jul 2009, at 14:03, Brooks Mosher wrote: > > > i think tools like Ableton Live have made things so much easier for > working > with large samples. you can do things within minutes that would have > taken > hours in the past. but the sound quality to me seems a bit drab or > has less > character than something like an Emax. > *************************************** - This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve - Truth does not fear investigation. "There are no secrets that time does not reveal." -- Jean Racine (1669) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [emax] Sound Design
2009-07-14 by ss
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