Emax

Hi Everybody.

I just want to thank everybody for their comments on this list and I  
really appreciate
all of the email I have received.

I seem to be seeing Ableton and Native Instruments "at war" (shall we  
say...!) with
one another.  Live and Kontakt are both sampling instruments after all.

It is disturbing to see, I must say, products like KORE and its  
controller and the "layering"
of samples from the different NI instruments compared with my simply  
working with my
Emax and Alchemy on the Mac Plus!  :-)  I was able to do so much with  
that setup!  Now
I see "KORE!!!!" and it seems to dumbed-down in terms of sound  
design...  "Maschine"
is really disturbing.  Why not just use iTunes!  LOL!!!  ;-)  (I know  
-- there's more to it
than that!)  :-)

There are still plenty of things I can only do in Alchemy that I  
cannot do in any other
environment.

Anybody else have any thoughts along these lines...?

Jammie:  You said you felt that the NI sampler made things easier for  
people and it just
drove me insane!  :-)  I never got Kontakt (or however it's spelled!)  
working on my computer.
I hated it!

But it seems like everybody really is dumping their sampling hardware  
and moving to the
computer as their sampler...



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i think tools like Ableton Live have made things so much easier for working
with large samples.  you can do things within minutes that would have taken
hours in the past. but the sound quality to me seems a bit drab or has less
character than something like an Emax.



On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:26 PM, ss <ssws1@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Everybody.
>
> I just want to thank everybody for their comments on this list and I
> really appreciate
> all of the email I have received.
>
> I seem to be seeing Ableton and Native Instruments "at war" (shall we
> say...!) with
> one another. Live and Kontakt are both sampling instruments after all.
>
> It is disturbing to see, I must say, products like KORE and its
> controller and the "layering"
> of samples from the different NI instruments compared with my simply
> working with my
> Emax and Alchemy on the Mac Plus! :-) I was able to do so much with
> that setup! Now
> I see "KORE!!!!" and it seems to dumbed-down in terms of sound
> design... "Maschine"
> is really disturbing. Why not just use iTunes! LOL!!! ;-) (I know
> -- there's more to it
> than that!) :-)
>
> There are still plenty of things I can only do in Alchemy that I
> cannot do in any other
> environment.
>
> Anybody else have any thoughts along these lines...?
>
> Jammie: You said you felt that the NI sampler made things easier for
> people and it just
> drove me insane! :-) I never got Kontakt (or however it's spelled!)
> working on my computer.
> I hated it!
>
> But it seems like everybody really is dumping their sampling hardware
> and moving to the
> computer as their sampler...
>
> ***************************************
> - This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to
> serve -
>
> Truth does not fear investigation.
>
> "There are no secrets that time does not reveal." -- Jean Racine (1669)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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I completely agree, Brooks.  Some of these new tools have made huge  
leaps
in sound design work.  I find I'm jumping into Melodyne Studio  
constantly
while putting a piece together no matter what it is.

But you're right about the Ableton sound lacking something:  we've all  
been
talking about it here...  I described it to a friend as sounding like  
the "music
you hear in a toy shop..." and he jumped up and down and said:  "Yeah!
That's exactly it!"

But we can't figure-out why that is so...

I won't fool around:  I pull out the Emax, Prophet or Minimoog or
whatever I have to get that PUNCH, RING, POWER, or whatever it is
that I'm looking for that I just cannot seem to get with a PlugIn.

The source material always has to have power from the beginning or
nothing happens for me after the face with any of these tools otherwise.

I WISH Bias would look at Alchemy and add some of the features to Peak  
Pro
that they had in Alchemy all along and that made it such a great  
tool!  The
spectrum resynthesis and analysis, and amplitude envelope copying and
pasting are a couple of great examples!  I just made tons of material  
with
just those two features of Alchemy "back in the day...".

I'm finding that NI's Battery for drums and percussion is quite useful!

I had an interesting experience with NI's stuff:  I was over at a  
friends
house with my laptop with Reaktor on it and started playing with  
Metaphysical
Function, and both the Mom and one of the children held their ears
because of the harshness and what I can only call "brutality" of the  
sounds.
The volume was low, but the NI sound can be REALLY VISCERAL.

My Emax can be very warm and soothing in comparison.  Access Virus  
strings
are another great warm soothing sound.  I love the Virus strings!!!  :-)

Would be really interesting to take sampled clips and chunks of sound  
from
the NI instruments and work with them in the Emax because of the  
dithering
and aliasing of the sound!  That would be very cool!  Have not tried  
that one
yet, but I'm going there!  (NI has the "punch", but really doesn't  
have the "warmth")

:-)

Like Jammie says:  using the small bits of sampled material that is  
*quality* material
is the way to go!

On 14 Jul 2009, at 14:03, Brooks Mosher wrote:

>
>
> i think tools like Ableton Live have made things so much easier for  
> working
> with large samples. you can do things within minutes that would have  
> taken
> hours in the past. but the sound quality to me seems a bit drab or  
> has less
> character than something like an Emax.
>




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