Yes, Elk and I'm trying to understand this...But in every case it is different, a different situation. With Emax, for example, it is the filters, the dithering, the ability to loop highly complex material that would be impossible to do in Peak or other software programs, and the soft attacks and decays I get from the envelope generators and other analog parts of the instrument. It is very interesting talking with some FL Studio users, for example, who curse at me and call me an "old timer" and ignorant because "everything that used to be done with hardware can now be done with plugins and FL Studio". Well, I didn't hang-out with these guys for very long I can tell you, Elk. Trying to discuss this with them was pointless. And a friend of mine said simply: "They're zealots and wont listen to a word anybody says!" I've worked very hard to replicate "tape-saturation" in my work by using any number of tricks and tools. I'm really big on tape-saturation because I had a system where the EIII or Emax was connected to an 8-Track mixer and then went stereo-out to a Nagra that was custom-built. Quite often I'd flip the chain around and takes recorded on the Nagra would be re-recorded back into the EIII and then re-designed further. My mixer and Nagra were super quiet! No noise build-up. So I could do this. So my method would be, and still is, multiple 24-track mixes each mixed-down to stereo two-track mixes and then in the end the multiple stereo two-track mixes are all loaded and a final mix-down is done. This process adds to the need to be able to keep track of source material because in the end it can become very difficult years later to remember what and where that source sample came from.... As a rule I'm burning lots of discs and putting notes with them and storing them away. With the Emax I found that I was taking the source recording many times and processing it through multiple effects-boxes before it went into the Emax. Then on the way out to the mixer it went though another chain of boxes before being recorded. Now things at every stage of the game right from the working with the raw and unprocessed source material everything is going into Melodyne Studio and I'm working with it. Melodyne Studio after all I'm realizing is a sampler! I never thought about it that way, but in general the limitations that I ran into years ago with Emax can now be solved with Melodyne before it goes into Emax! :-) It is wonderful -- incredible! I cannot recommend it enough as a tool for work with Emax because of the limitations of 1 MG of RAM, etc. I have the Emax HD SE so unlike some lucky folks who were able to snag an Emax II I am limited to that 1 MG of RAM which makes one become very creative to get around problems I must say! :-) The Melodyne PlugIn solves a lot of problems from the outset. People don't have to shell-out for the Studio version, although I would strongly recommend it because you will use it -- believe me! Unlimited tracks, "unlimited undos", the ability to produce all of those arrangements on the fly and then just re-arrange things again. And I can design the sound for that 1 MG RAM limitation from the outset! :-) This makes me very happy! [Also, I am not a "shill" for Celemony who make the Melodyne Software. I just got involved with them from the start of their company in hopes of solving a serious and horrible problem with a piece of music I had worked on for two, almost three, years and had to throw-out. That's how I discovered the software. It didn't solve my problem, but in learning about the software it opened all of these doors for me creatively that I am still exploring daily and discovering new applications for the software and the tools in it -- more than I have the time and life to explore and work with! It's like the Spectrum Synthesis and Transform Multiplication in SE: you sit for hours pursuing a path while it processes in that 1 MG of RAM! Now with Melodyne designing everything on the front-end for Emax's limitations Emax is far far more powerful for me than it was before! I love creating a beat with the Spectrum engine and then working with the loop in ReCycle and exporting-out and into Melodyne and changing everything around -- all of the pitches, layering the melodic lines of it, and changing the percussive elements of the SE beat! It's just fantastic! Also I can really create rhythmic loops with beats at the loop-points without artifacts or distortion when altering pitch, or length, etc.!] Hardware is important for many reasons. You know I was just looking at Dave Smith's Prophet 8 and how I want to snag one of those before they disappear! Those synths are like Porches of the synth world! And the combination with Emax is perfect, really! Just like the Access Virus and Emax combination's results. Perfect! Great beats, great strings, great loops! [Don't like the TI's, though! Like "Polar"...] What other hardware are you using, Elk? Now that I cannot get tape any longer the Nagra is gone from the setup for good in my world. On 14 Jul 2009, at 21:30, Elk Latham wrote: > > everything I do with software instruments some how end up in > hardware sampler as well. *************************************** - This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve - Truth does not fear investigation. "There are no secrets that time does not reveal." -- Jean Racine (1669) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [emax] Keeping track of "source material"...
2009-07-15 by ss
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