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Re: Emax II with MAC Se (Warning: Rant!)

2009-12-12 by esynthesist

Hi

EMXP will support bank upload and bank download for both Emax-I and Emax-II, as soon as an USB/RS422 device is ready and tested for these samplers. I just spent some more hours on the prototype device I have received from a fellow member a few months ago and I think we are making progress... Still a hardware/firmware problem though...

For Emax-II the bank up/download will be supported in low (MIDI) and high (RS422) speed; this will be based on a whole series of SYSEX messages. Also the special "all-in-one" compressed bank upload will be supported.

For Emax-I the bank up/download will be supported in high (RS422) speed, although it is possible that also slow (MIDI) transfer will be supported... depends on the compatibility of SYSEX between Emax-I and Emax-II. I think this will be OK.

Also Emulator-II will be supported, only in fast (RS422) mode though because the MIDI interface of EII does not support SYSEX.


With respect to the SoundDesigner versions, here's a jump start of a sound editor comparison for Emax-I and Emax-II:

SD for Emax:
 - full support (all features) for Emax-I, including realtime control of every parameter/module
 - support for Emax-II except for:
    . bank download to Mac
    . bank upload to Emax restricted to Emax-I compressed banks
    . individual sample upload and download limited to 512K
 - MIDI and RS422 supported
 - no special soundcard hardware required for starting software
SD Universal:
 - bank upload/download: still to be confirmed (?)...
 - individual sample up/download support for Emax-I and Emax-II
 - MIDI and RS422 supported
 - SoundAccelerator hardware required for starting and using software
SDII version 2.5:
 - NO bank upload/download
 - individual sample up/download support for Emax-I and Emax-II
 - MIDI and RS422 supported
 - SoundAccelerator or AudioMedia II hardware required for starting and using software 
SDII version 2.6 and higher:
 - NO bank upload/download
 - individual sample up/download only via generic MIDI SDS
 - MIDI supported (no RS422)
 - SoundAccelerator or AudioMedia II/III hardware required for starting and using software
Passport Alchemy v3:
 - NO bank upload/download
 - individual and bulk sample up/download for Emax-I and Emax-II
 - MIDI and RS422 supported
 - no special soundcard hardware required for starting software

///E-Synthesist
--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, tu@... wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 11th, 2009 at 6:54 PM, thenewyorkcowboy <thenewyorkcowboy@...> wrote:
> 
> > Wow thanks Tristan you have been so helpful to everyone through all
> > the posts I've read but now I am totally confused!
> 
> You are welcome! Not sure if you really want me to answer this below, but I will try.
> 
> > I wish one of the columns to the left was a FAQ we could update with
> > questions from the group, then as things would be answered "to the
> > best of the groups knowledge" they could edit it like Wikipedia. 
> > Then most of these wild goose chases would be kept at bay.  Or if
> > Yahoo would one day use something like a .php bulletin board, we
> > could actually follow a thread from start to finish.  I must have
> > missed this part of the puzzle or it was a private conversation in
> > someone's email.  Either way I feel like I have been wasting
> > everyone's reading time with my ignorance on the subject.
> 
> Maybe you could start by creating a FAQ.
> 
> > My wish list includes Emu to have made the ESI-32 in a keyboard
> > model, then I think I would be happy with the status quo.  Maybe I'll
> > gut one and transplant all its boards to my Emax II including the
> > display. (Of course I am kidding...) Pricewise we're probably talking
> > about the same thing, though.
> 
> If this is really what you want then why not gut an Esi and a MIDI keyboard controller and have a custom case and panels made. With modern CNC 
> machines any sort of front/back panel layouts can be built and look as good as anything you can buy in a store. It would not necessarily be cheap 
> though :P
>  
> > So as briefly as possible, unless you feel like ranting as well, what
> > is the scope of E-synthesist's project beyond EMXP to transfer banks
> > if the Emax II doesn't have the code needed to dump the bank anyway?
> 
> Maybe E-synthesist could elaborate on what he has in mind... I believe the focus for the Emax II was on having high speed sample transfer via RS422 
> with the added possibility of program parameters etc being transferred. I don't know about sequences though as they use sample RAM but cannot be 
> dumped directly, only played in/out in realtime over MIDI. But the Emax II can at least receive Emax bank dumps if that is implemented in EMXP. 
> Bank transfer is not really such an issue for the Emax II though as they all have SCSI. 
> 
> > The group is called "Emax" which I took to mean Emax and Emax II.  If
> > they both can receive "uploads" of samples in a few seconds, say 30
> > seconds (which I read here) for a typical (>=1MB) sample or sound
> > created in some work space on your computer and then you could
> > audition it, why don't we move forward at least from there?  Right
> > now if I understand everything correctly, that is what old Macs can
> > do presently, correct?
> 
> Yes, get an old Mac with SD and/or Alchemy and be happy :) Think of whatever comes in the future with EMXP as an added bonus!
> 
> > So now it can be done on a PC with the correct USB-422 adapter?
> 
> With appropriate software and hardware it is of course possible. That is what is being developed.
>  
> > I'd like to know which one!  Was it the >$300 model?
> > 
> > The last coherent thread I read was that the external clocking issue
> > was still a problem from Emax to the interface when dumping.  But now
> > you are telling me that the Emax II will sync up to a known PC
> > adapter sending out a 500khz signal for upload???
> 
> The Emax actually sends the 500kHz clock that the external RS422 device needs to synchronize with. These days this synchronous UART technology is 
> not widely used, apart from in some industrial applications, and is therefore not supported in modern PC hardware. In the 80s this method entirely 
> made sense for the Emax to use as some UARTs of the day supported it and the Mac provided this capability in its serial port hardware. 
> 
> > You can see why I am confused.  If this is all Mac territory I am
> > just getting started with my Beige G3 so I am behind.  I am glad I
> > haven't suddenly screamed "Eureka!" with my ignorance...
> > 
> > SD for Emax doesn't support Emax II.
> > SD 2.5?
> > SD 2.7?
> > SD 2.82 loses the support for samplers, yet it still was written for
> > a Nubus Mac...
> > 
> > I just don't get it, I guess...
> 
> People have SD and Alchemy working, maybe compile a list of working version combinations for the FAQ...
>  
> > I read the post between Ted and E-synthesist about encouragement a
> > while back and I was touched, but now I am wondering why if not at
> > least a 31.250 protocol hasn't been introduced into EMXP already with
> > a readme on why your particular sampler is limited, etc. as the
> > revisions go?  Standard hardware, standard protocols....etc.
> > 
> > To me that would not have been a 'worthless' addition.  If most of
> > what we are talking about are 1MB or less I don't know why 31.250 is
> > such a stumbling block.  I was downloading most files from the
> > internet with that rate less than a decade ago.
> 
> Not a bad idea for program parameter/sample transfer but the bank dumps only work in the 500k high speed mode. It depends if E-synthesist wants 
> to spend his time on it though.
>  
> > Most of your normal samples with an attack rate for live performance
> > are going to be that short, and I think that is why Emu refused to
> > additional man hours simply on research and delivery on something
> > that was not generating sales.  What was there, about 3000 units
> > produced over 6 years?  The ESI-32 had 5000 units in 2 years....
> > 
> > I think it was Jammie that suggested Sample Wrench XE in message
> > #4821 and it was a great informative discussion.  After looking at
> > their site, I became slightly envious of what they were able to do
> > with the Peavey SX series.
> 
> Sample Wrench should be able to do sample dumps to/from the Emax II via MIDI. 
>  
> > I also own both a Yamaha FB-01 and an EZ-EG and there are other
> > groups, software, websites, and You Tube videos dedicated to both, as
> > well as my Poly 800.
> > 
> > It is like this last episode of STNG I watched, where they were on a
> > class M planet but only had an "open audio link" for the drama that
> > enfolds instead of direct video which we can do today with a stupid
> > webcam and what you see in every undercover op on TV.  And Lt.
> > Natasha Yar dies...
> > 
> > I mean I guess Gene Roddenberry didn't actually put into place the
> > same standards as we would expect today, now did he?  And this is
> > supposedly 4 centuries from now...
> > 
> > So let us put our efforts into finding a machine language programmer
> > that is familiar with Hex assembly code.  My limited experience is on
> > the Sinclair (Zilog), the C64, the TI-99/4A, and the Apple II series
> > but all of that was simply copying code from the trade magazines
> > verbatim....I think we all did that nearly 30 years ago...ha ha
> 
> I think you are underestimating the complexity of the task. The The Emax 32000 processor is more like a 68000 than a Z80 or 6502. If the code was 
> written in a high level language then it will no doubt be a hard slog to disassemble and make sense of it. Having the source code, together with the 
> original development environment and associated documentation would of course make the task much easier.
> 
> > I remember one time when I typed {POKE OOOO} with a friend into the
> > Sinclair, and we laugh about that to this very day, but it doesn't
> > help here.  I could not understand what I was typing in hex
> > otherwise.
> > 
> > If the last 'offer' was valid, all we would have to do is deliver the
> > binary/hex code to the Korg DSS1 programmer and we would have another
> > 'new hope' just like Star Wars.
> > 
> > I just find what has been done with other synths and samplers a
> > little more 'complete' than what we have accomplished in 6200
> > messages...
> 
> If only everything in life was easy ;)
> 
> > Forgive me, everyone, but I have a TON of SCSI equipment that I would
> > like to offload if anyone is interested...cables, external cases,
> > hard drives, and many SCSI CD-ROMs that never worked...
> > 
> > If anyone would like to make a huge business from it, I would take
> > $200 plus shipping for like 100lbs of equipment...Paypal only and
> > contact me off list please.  Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, tu@ wrote:
> > >
> > > 1. Both Emax I and Emax II OS do actually contain code to receive
> > transfer of the 8 bit, 
> > > compressed Emax I banks from an external device using 500k baud
> > RS422. Only the Emax I OS 
> > > contains code to transmit banks to an external device using 500k
> > baud RS422. There are reasons 
> > > given in the Emu documentation as to why this was not implemented
> > on the Emax II. The Emax II 
> > > is not able to either transmit or receive 16 bit banks via RS422. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 2. My estimation is that 16 bit bank transfer using a protocol
> > similar the 8 bit bank transfer would 
> > > take approximately half the time you suggest and most banks are not
> > even 8MB in size! Assuming 
> > > an 8MB bank: 8MB  / (500k / 11) = 184 seconds ~ 3 minutes. Of
> > course there is some protocol 
> > > overhead as well as transfer of the parameter RAM and there may
> > well be other limitations on the 
> > > transfer speed. But this does not help much as there is no such
> > protocol implemented in the Emax 
> > > II...
> > > 
> > > /Tristan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Dec 11th, 2009 at 8:20 AM, thenewyorkcowboy
> > <thenewyorkcowboy@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I did not mean that Korg themselves did it, I was making a
> > reference
> > > > to Rob at emulator archive trying futilely to get the code we
> > are
> > > > looking for from Emu.  In the case of the DSS1 you have someone
> > who
> > > > was basically a subcontractor for Korg and the OS, so a huge
> > > > advantage there.
> > > > 
> > > > After reading a nearly a hundred posts on RS-422, 500khz, and
> > 'source
> > > > code', I see now though that:
> > > > 
> > > > 1.  Both Emax OS do not contain a sysex command for
> > sending/recieving
> > > > banks.
> > > > 
> > > > 2.  500k speed is still 7 minutes to transfer 8MB.
> > > > 
> > > > 3.  E-synthesist is trying to cover all the Emu models!!!!
> > > > 
> > > > If Emu would just reach deep in their hearts and provide the
> > source
> > > > code so much of this could be resolved by a new OS rewrite, of
> > > > course.  We could then implement SMDI, add the sysex commands
> > > > missing, and include direct USB support...
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > korg had nothing to do with it it was done by people
> > passionate
> > > > about there equipment we were lucky to get a person who used to
> > work
> > > > for the memory company that did the memory and os for the dss1
> > > > upgrade he still uses the dss1 and he did all the new code 
> > > > > 
> > > > > if we had the code for the emaxes i would be sure that he could
> > add
> > > > instructions to it
> > > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >   From: thenewyorkcowboy 
> > > > >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >   Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:33 PM
> > > > >   Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II with MAC Se
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >     
> > > > >   Another Korg model that has been completely revamped is the
> > Poly
> > > > 800 series (EX, MKI, & MKII) That one came out in 1986. The two
> > kits
> > > > available for it cost more than what you'd pay for the synth
> > second
> > > > hand ($135 delivered) but it increases the functionality of the
> > board
> > > > so much it is definitely worth it.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   64 banks have become 256 banks (4 sets of 64)
> > > > >   Bi directional Sysex dumps on what used to be just cassette
> > tape
> > > > with a modem handshake.
> > > > >   128 new Global instructions
> > > > >   2 additional LFO's added which can stack or modulate the
> > original
> > > > 2 LFO's
> > > > >   And a replaced flash prom that can software update over midi
> > for
> > > > all this, and doesn't even need a CR2032 battery anymore, among
> > many
> > > > other improvements.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/hawk800/
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Now, Korg may or may not have helped out considerably with
> > these
> > > > two projects, but whatever the reason is, we will certainly find
> > > > something someday to be able to tap into the Emax series on that
> > kind
> > > > of level.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   EMXP is a wonderful piece of software that by itself is equal
> > to
> > > > the work done on these two Korg models since it covers so many
> > > > formats and samplers, we just need to "complete" the puzzle as
> > > > E-synthesist has said by completing that "one step" to find the
> > > > proper interface. I just personally think that in the end, any
> > type
> > > > of serial communication is still going to be 'too slow' even if
> > > > ported over USB if we can't get the Emax to receive at 500kbaud
> > or
> > > > higher.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   What about buying something off the shelf and simply
> > replacing
> > > > the crystal in the card and in the Emax?
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > http://www.motherboardpoint.com/500k-baud-rate-setup-t88094.html
> > > > > 
> > > > >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > why bother when you can just use the scsi 
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > what would be better would be a os instruction for scmidi
> > > > transfers of banks and samples it would be much faster and would
> > not
> > > > need any hardware but would require the os code you could add
> > usb
> > > > support which have been done for the 68000 processor but would
> > need
> > > > the os code of the sampler to impliment it 
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > its been done with the korg dss1 including 16mb sample
> > memory
> > > > and 8mb patch memory and the use of floppy usb flash drives where
> > you
> > > > can use usb pens and sdram and compactflash and xd memory card
> > duo
> > > > you can use upto 68 differnt types of memory with the drive and
> > being
> > > > usb it comes up as 4 drives usb2 speed 
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > and it has wave support now so you can put your pen into
> > the
> > > > comp drop and drag folders of multisamples and then access them
> > from
> > > > the sampler 
> > > > >   > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >   > From: thenewyorkcowboy 
> > > > >   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >   > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:22 AM
> > > > >   > Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II with MAC Se
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > Hey in my most recent web surfing I came across a modern
> > piece
> > > > of protocol called iSCSI.
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISCSI
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > Which can theoretically transfer instructions and data at
> > the
> > > > bandwidth of your Ethernet connection, 10/100/1000...
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > Since the SCSI protocol is probably easier to decipher
> > than
> > > > RS-422 handshaking and such, would it be "easier" to make a
> > device
> > > > that could latch into the SCSI chip on the Emax along with the
> > output
> > > > and connect to a modern network through something like a PIC
> > micro
> > > > controller with some software?
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > I know we were going for an external device that simply
> > > > connects to the computer interface port on the Emax, but upon
> > further
> > > > reading here, even at 500kbaud we are talking about a few minutes
> > per
> > > > transfer.
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > If we could design a PIC micro controller that could mount
> > > > inside the Emax with a "small hole" to accomodate the RJ-45 jack
> > on
> > > > the back and a hardware hack, we could use the SCSI load/save as
> > an
> > > > external device to connect into a normal network at a minimum of
> > > > 10mbs.
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > Once we could do that, almost any waveform editor would
> > work to
> > > > transfer back and forth because alot of time would be saved
> > working
> > > > at say 5mbs like the Emax chip can supply compared to 500kbaud
> > (one
> > > > way)....
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > Any thoughts?
> > > > >   > 
> > > > >   > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > I'm not sure what you are aiming to, based on all these
> > > > messages and information which you have been reading :-) 
> > > > >   > > - do you want to get Alchemy, SD, or any other vintage
> > > > software running with Emax/Emax-II connectivity on higher Mac
> > > > versions ?
> > > > >   > > - do you want to find out how to come up with a device
> > > > supporting externally clocked RS422 for use with any modern
> > computer
> > > > equipment ?
> > > > >   > > - do you just basically want to get Alchemy, SD of any
> > other
> > > > software running with Emax/Emax-II connectivity on a vintage Mac
> > > > (Classic, SE, ...) ?
> > > > >   > > - do you want to make new software for communication
> > between
> > > > computer and Emax/Emax-II ?
> > > > >   > > - ...
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > With respect to your questions, I can only answer the
> > first
> > > > two of them:
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > 1/ Yes, I have a minidin8 <--> DB9 cable perfectly
> > working
> > > > between my Mac and my Emax/Emax-II. The cable specs are available
> > on
> > > > emulatorarchive:
> > > > >   > >
> > > > 
> > >
> > http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Archives/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxEditors/emaxeditors.htm
> > > l
> > > > >   > > This obviously is the RS422 variant.
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > 2/ Alchemy would be a better starting point in terms of
> > > > native Emax-II support but ONLY for sample transfer
> > communication. If
> > > > all possible RS422 commands should be supported, then
> > SoundDesigner
> > > > for Emax is a better choice. 
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > Note that we are "only" one step away from new software
> > > > running on Windows XP/Vista (or Mac OS X or higher) which can
> > > > communicate with Emu samplers. The only missing part is an
> > externally
> > > > clockable RS422 port which can be put in between the Emax and
> > the
> > > > computer :-)
> > > > >   > > I have already a working prototype communication software
> > on
> > > > my PC. 
> > > > >   > > A few days ago someone mailed me with the message that
> > the
> > > > KeySpan XG 28 (USB/RS422) device for Mac probably supports
> > external
> > > > clocking. But I don't know if this is true because when I was
> > looking
> > > > to its specs a year ago, I read somewhere that synchronous
> > > > communication is NOT supported by that adapter. Also, this device
> > -
> > > > which is already obsolete - was only released with Mac drivers,
> > not
> > > > Windows drivers.
> > > > >   > > Of course it is not true to say that these externally
> > > > clockable RS422 ports for modern computers don't exist - in
> > > > industrial apps they are being used. But their price is way too
> > high
> > > > for us (500 USD...)
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > I also have a prototype device here from a fellow member,
> > but
> > > > we are still trying to get it working :-) Maybe I will connect
> > my
> > > > Oscilloscope to that device this weekend, it's been a while...
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > //E-Synthesist
> > > > >   > > 
> > > > >   > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "thenewyorkcowboy"
> > > > <thenewyorkcowboy@> wrote:
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > This looks like a good time to interject a few
> > > > questions...
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > Here is the page I started with:
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emax/message/4847
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > So I did my own research and found this page:
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://support.apple.com/kb/SP130
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > and
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://lowendmac.com/tech/serial.shtml
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > Which I have...so I am convinced that the 8 pin mini
> > din
> > > > can handle both RS422 and RS232 depending on the CABLE!!!
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > What they are talking about as the "obsolete" port is
> > what
> > > > is considered a GeoPort, it only has 4 pins in the mini-Din. So
> > > > anyone who has 8 pin serial ports on any Mac can use either
> > Sound
> > > > Forge or Alchemy...
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > It was said earlier in the posts that neither software
> > can
> > > > do entire bank transfers, but I am not at that point yet...What
> > I
> > > > need is someone to clarify these last questions I have before I
> > am
> > > > going to be able to contribute something to the conversation...
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > On ANY Mac with the two "422 serial" ports (8 pin Mini
> > > > Dins) it certainly does seem true that they will accept up to a
> > 2Mb
> > > > external clock.
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > Did we get this pinout solved from post? I only have:
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://www.interfacebus.com/Apple_MiniDIN_PinOut.html
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > and
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://saragossa.net/intfcing.html (scroll to far
> > bottom)
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > to determine how to "make" a cable to connect to the
> > Emax
> > > > II
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > and these posts to leave me wondering:
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emax/message/5241
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > and
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emax/message/4789
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > (and the following conversation that ensues)
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > and finally...
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emax/message/4838
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > So, I have to ask:::
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > 1. Has anyone actually built a Mini Din-8 cable to the
> > > > EmaxII serial port or a DB-9 serial, and got it to work with
> > Alchemy?
> > > > What are the final pinouts?
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > 2. I know what our Files section holds in the way of
> > > > Alchemy and Sound Designer...which is the 'best' version that we
> > > > should be focusing on as a prototype?
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > 3. The last question is a little more specific, if
> > anyone
> > > > has a later MAC OS working with any of the software versions
> > metioned
> > > > in #2 above, what is it? Will MAC OS 9.2.2 work with Alchemy 2.5
> > > > through a soldered MiniDin-8 to DB-9 cable to the EmaxII? Will
> > OSX
> > > > work in classic mode?
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > These are the questions I need answered to port some
> > more
> > > > information into the loop.
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > Kirk
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > 
> > > > >   > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, tu@ wrote:
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > According to the sysex spec, the Emax II can receive
> > Emax
> > > > I compressed bank transfers. It needs 
> > > > >   > > > > to for compatibility with the RS422 CDROM drive! But
> > it
> > > > does not support transmitting compressed 
> > > > >   > > > > banks or any transfer of 16 bit banks.
> > > > >   > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > Sample transfer using high or low speed MMA sample
> > > > dumping is also limited to maximum sample 
> > > > >   > > > > size of 2M words (4MB in 16 bit samples). So an Emax
> > II
> > > > bank containing a sample longer than this 
> > > > >   > > > > will not be possible to transfer over RS422 or MIDI.
> > This
> > > > would not be a problem for most sample 
> > > > >   > > > > banks but does prevent a universal method of bank
> > > > transfer between the Emax II and a computer. 
> > > > >   > > > > The solution is of course to save such banks to disk
> > and
> > > > then load from there.
> > > > >   > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > /Tristan
> > > > >   > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > On Sat, Dec 5th, 2009 at 8:33 AM, esynthesist
> > > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > Alchemy doesn't support bank transfers with any
> > > > sampler.
> > > > >   > > > > > It only supports sample transfers, including an
> > > > interesting "bulk"
> > > > >   > > > > > mode to transfer all samples at once. But that's
> > still
> > > > without any of
> > > > >   > > > > > the preset and voice parameters...
> > > > >   > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > In fact no software supports bank transfers with
> > the
> > > > Emax-II.
> > > > >   > > > > > I will add it to EMXP as soon as we get the RS422
> > > > device for PC up
> > > > >   > > > > > and running...
> > > > >   > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > > >   > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jrb1864@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > Does Alchemy support bank transfers to and from
> > Emax
> > > > 2? How in
> > > > >   > > > > > depth are the sample edit features?
> > > > >   > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >   > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Hey If anyone needs the Alchemy ver 3.0 full
> > manual
> > > > I have 5 of
> > > > >   > > > > > them available.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Richard at www.Route66studios.com
> > > > >   > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > From: sanctifiedone@ 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:56 AM
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [emax] Emax II with MAC Se
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > I love posts like this one from Ted. And while
> > I'm
> > > > at it, I
> > > > >   > > > > > also want to express my appreciation for group
> > members
> > > > like Dave
> > > > >   > > > > > willing to help me untangle my EMAX II problems. 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@> 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2009 11:58:49 AM
> > GMT
> > > > -05:00
> > > > >   > > > > > US/Canada Eastern 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [emax] Emax II with MAC Se 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Alchemy software v3.0 sit is in the groups
> > files
> > > > section, and
> > > > >   > > > > > it works...... 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Regards, 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Ted 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:57 AM, John
> > <jrb1864@>
> > > > wrote: 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > I have an Emax 2 with 2mb ram, jazz drives,
> > > > floppies, cables
> > > > >   > > > > > and connector 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > cable to the MAC. 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > I had a dream...a dream of running my Emax 2
> > with
> > > > sound
> > > > >   > > > > > designer or 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > Alchemy. Alas no luck, I only have Sound
> > Designer
> > > > Universal
> > > > >   > > > > > and it's not 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > working with the EMAX 2. 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > I have Sound Designer Universal in the box,
> > > > original disks
> > > > >   > > > > > etc, a MAC SE, 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > systems 6, and 7 but unable to find the
> > Alchemy
> > > > software or
> > > > >   > > > > > Sound Designer 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > that works with Emax 2. 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > If I can't get it all to work I will give up
> > on
> > > > this dream
> > > > >   > > > > > and sell the lot 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > to someone, preferably on the forum, with
> > love,
> > > > patience, and
> > > > >   > > > > > abilities to 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > make this system work and send me photos!
> > LOL! 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > If you have the software I need or time and
> > > > willingness to
> > > > >   > > > > > help me through 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > it I would appreciate otherwise I'm selling
> > it
> > > > all for $350
> > > > >   > > > > > plus shipping 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > costs. 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > Thanks all! Maybe one day..... 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > >   > > > > > > > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > 
> > > > >   > > > > > > > http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups
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