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Re: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-19 by Ted Summers

1) The pin 29 is a master / slave designation pin on tne IDE Interface  
when using CABLE SELECT for IDE bus. If you have jumpered master you  
shouldn't need this pin.
It isn't required to be there.
or you should get a different IDE cable that matches the connection.

2) The Acard 7220U bridge board I have used with an IDE CF drive and  
also a Zip drive in my Emax rack without issue.
One thing of note- there is a firmware update for the Acard bridge  
board.
Previous versions of the firmware can result in Hard Disk Error  
messages.

Make sure your bridge has the latest firmware.
To update it, you put it in a PC with a drive attached and run the  
updater.
The updater is in windows.

Regards,
Ted

On Apr 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, esynthesist wrote:

Update: after an e-mail of another Emax user, I checked the current  
internals of my CF CARD.
It seems that the "good" board which I received a few weeks ago - and  
which is still not working with my Emax - is in fact NOT an R-IDSC-E/R  
v1.28.
After removing the SCSIForSamplers labels on it, I discovered it's an  
even older IDSC21-E board from 1999.

Also, the Acard AEC7720U board seems to have been tested with the CF  
Card board from the CF CARD before by another Emax user. And also with  
that adapter board, the Emax-I is not supported. It results in the  
same error ("Hard Disk Error").

And as I mentioned before, the 2006 R-IDSC-E/R v1.30.9 is not working  
either, and someone else tried a 2009 board which also doesn't work.

So I am really wondering now which CF CARD version has ever supported  
the Emax-I ?
Or would the problem be caused by a change of the CF Card board in the  
drive, and not only by the IDE/SCSI adapter board ?

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
 >
 > The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R  
revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that  
one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all)  
samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a  
better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not  
supported.
 > As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/ 
SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I  
wrong ?
 >
 > Are you talking about an even older board ?
 >
 > I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female  
connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the  
unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the  
corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for  
use with non-Acard boards ?
 >
 > ///E-Synthesist
 >
 > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
 > >
 > > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the  
rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
 > >
 > > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from  
scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq  
customers aswell and they did not work
 > >
 > > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the  
older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the  
emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
 > >
 > > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of  
samplers
 > >
 > > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the  
new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and  
the older iodata cards
 > >
 > > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read  
and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there  
will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the  
new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and  
rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: esynthesist
 > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
 > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
 > > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the  
Emax
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly  
the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
 > >
 > > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD  
compatibility list on their website now...
 > >
 > > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
 > >
 > > ///E-Synthesist
 > >
 > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Hi
 > > >
 > > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD  
drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
 > > >
 > > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered  
and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax  
SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers.
 > > >
 > > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq  
EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either,  
I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now  
it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and  
the Emulator-IIIX.
 > > >
 > > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my  
Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD  
drive is not working.
 > > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but  
it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
 > > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers  
when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the  
very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's  
drive by the way.
 > > >
 > > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF  
card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
 > > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax- 
I, I'd like to hear from you !!
 > > >
 > > > Thanks in advance
 > > >
 > > > ///E-Synthesist
 > > >
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