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Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-09 by esynthesist

Hi 

I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?

I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 

By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.

While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.

So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!

Thanks in advance

///E-Synthesist

Emax II SE Development Disk?

2010-04-12 by Brandt R. Gassman

Hi everyone:

I recently acquired an Emax II Turbo rack with fully expanded memory,  
and I'm interested in learning more about the Spectrum Synthesis  
functionality. Unfortunately, the machine did not come with the  
Spectrum Synthesis Development floppy disk specific to the Emax II  
series. Does anyone have a copy of this they would be willing to share  
or sell?

Thanks in advance for your help,
DBM

Re: [emax] Emax II SE Development Disk?

2010-04-12 by Rish

Someone correct me if Im wrong but the Emax 2 has the SE feature as standard OS.
 Rish
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brandt R. Gassman 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:31 AM
  Subject: [emax] Emax II SE Development Disk?


    
  Hi everyone:

  I recently acquired an Emax II Turbo rack with fully expanded memory, 
  and I'm interested in learning more about the Spectrum Synthesis 
  functionality. Unfortunately, the machine did not come with the 
  Spectrum Synthesis Development floppy disk specific to the Emax II 
  series. Does anyone have a copy of this they would be willing to share 
  or sell?

  Thanks in advance for your help,
  DBM


  

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Re: [emax] Emax II SE Development Disk?

2010-04-12 by Rish

Hey Brandt!  did see it was you.
 Rish
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brandt R. Gassman 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:31 AM
  Subject: [emax] Emax II SE Development Disk?


    
  Hi everyone:

  I recently acquired an Emax II Turbo rack with fully expanded memory, 
  and I'm interested in learning more about the Spectrum Synthesis 
  functionality. Unfortunately, the machine did not come with the 
  Spectrum Synthesis Development floppy disk specific to the Emax II 
  series. Does anyone have a copy of this they would be willing to share 
  or sell?

  Thanks in advance for your help,
  DBM


  

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Re: Emax II SE Development Disk?

2010-04-12 by esynthesist

The Emax SE Development disk is available from the files section of this group. It's an EMX file.
Perhaps I will upload a full disk image (e.g. for OmniFlop) also in the near future.

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Brandt R. Gassman" <brandt@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi everyone:
> 
> I recently acquired an Emax II Turbo rack with fully expanded memory,  
> and I'm interested in learning more about the Spectrum Synthesis  
> functionality. Unfortunately, the machine did not come with the  
> Spectrum Synthesis Development floppy disk specific to the Emax II  
> series. Does anyone have a copy of this they would be willing to share  
> or sell?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> DBM
>

Re: Emax II SE Development Disk?

2010-04-13 by ditabeardmemo

Thanks E-Synthesist!

So just to clarify: The Spectrum Synthesizer development disk that E-Mu released for the original Emax also works with the Emax II? I was under the impression that the SE waveforms for the original Emax would not translate properly to the Emax II, and therefore assumed the Emax II had its own development disk. Is this incorrect?

Thanks again for your input,
DBM


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
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>
> The Emax SE Development disk is available from the files section of this group. It's an EMX file.
> Perhaps I will upload a full disk image (e.g. for OmniFlop) also in the near future.
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Brandt R. Gassman" <brandt@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone:
> > 
> > I recently acquired an Emax II Turbo rack with fully expanded memory,  
> > and I'm interested in learning more about the Spectrum Synthesis  
> > functionality. Unfortunately, the machine did not come with the  
> > Spectrum Synthesis Development floppy disk specific to the Emax II  
> > series. Does anyone have a copy of this they would be willing to share  
> > or sell?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > DBM
> >
>

Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-18 by esynthesist

One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...

...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 

Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi 
> 
> I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
> 
> I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
> 
> By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
> 
> While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
> It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
> I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
> 
> So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
> If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
>

Re: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-18 by jammie

what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work

only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work

the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use

those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers

and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards

the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: esynthesist 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax


    
  One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...

  ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 

  Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?

  ///E-Synthesist

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi 
  > 
  > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
  > 
  > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
  > 
  > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
  > 
  > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
  > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
  > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
  > 
  > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
  > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
  > 
  > Thanks in advance
  > 
  > ///E-Synthesist
  >



  


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Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-18 by esynthesist

The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?

Are you talking about an even older board ?

I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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>
> what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
> 
> only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
> 
> the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
> 
> those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
> 
> and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
> 
> the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: esynthesist 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> 
> 
>     
>   One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
> 
>   ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
> 
>   Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
> 
>   ///E-Synthesist
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Hi 
>   > 
>   > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
>   > 
>   > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
>   > 
>   > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
>   > 
>   > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
>   > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
>   > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
>   > 
>   > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
>   > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
>   > 
>   > Thanks in advance
>   > 
>   > ///E-Synthesist
>   >
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
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Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-18 by esynthesist

Update: after an e-mail of another Emax user, I checked the current internals of my CF CARD.
It seems that the "good" board which I received a few weeks ago - and which is still not working with my Emax - is in fact NOT an R-IDSC-E/R v1.28. 
After removing the SCSIForSamplers labels on it, I discovered it's an even older IDSC21-E board from 1999.

Also, the Acard AEC7720U board seems to have been tested with the CF Card board from the CF CARD before by another Emax user. And also with that adapter board, the Emax-I is not supported. It results in the same error ("Hard Disk Error").

And as I mentioned before, the 2006 R-IDSC-E/R v1.30.9 is not working either, and someone else tried a 2009 board which also doesn't work.

So I am really wondering now which CF CARD version has ever supported the Emax-I ?
Or would the problem be caused by a change of the CF Card board in the drive, and not only by the IDE/SCSI adapter board ?

///E-Synthesist


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
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>
> The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
> As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?
> 
> Are you talking about an even older board ?
> 
> I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >
> > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
> > 
> > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
> > 
> > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
> > 
> > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
> > 
> > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
> > 
> > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: esynthesist 
> >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
> >   Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> > 
> > 
> >     
> >   One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
> > 
> >   ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
> > 
> >   Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
> > 
> >   ///E-Synthesist
> > 
> >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Hi 
> >   > 
> >   > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
> >   > 
> >   > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
> >   > 
> >   > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
> >   > 
> >   > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
> >   > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
> >   > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
> >   > 
> >   > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
> >   > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
> >   > 
> >   > Thanks in advance
> >   > 
> >   > ///E-Synthesist
> >   >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
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Re: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-19 by Ted Summers

1) The pin 29 is a master / slave designation pin on tne IDE Interface  
when using CABLE SELECT for IDE bus. If you have jumpered master you  
shouldn't need this pin.
It isn't required to be there.
or you should get a different IDE cable that matches the connection.

2) The Acard 7220U bridge board I have used with an IDE CF drive and  
also a Zip drive in my Emax rack without issue.
One thing of note- there is a firmware update for the Acard bridge  
board.
Previous versions of the firmware can result in Hard Disk Error  
messages.

Make sure your bridge has the latest firmware.
To update it, you put it in a PC with a drive attached and run the  
updater.
The updater is in windows.

Regards,
Ted

On Apr 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, esynthesist wrote:

Update: after an e-mail of another Emax user, I checked the current  
internals of my CF CARD.
It seems that the "good" board which I received a few weeks ago - and  
which is still not working with my Emax - is in fact NOT an R-IDSC-E/R  
v1.28.
After removing the SCSIForSamplers labels on it, I discovered it's an  
even older IDSC21-E board from 1999.

Also, the Acard AEC7720U board seems to have been tested with the CF  
Card board from the CF CARD before by another Emax user. And also with  
that adapter board, the Emax-I is not supported. It results in the  
same error ("Hard Disk Error").

And as I mentioned before, the 2006 R-IDSC-E/R v1.30.9 is not working  
either, and someone else tried a 2009 board which also doesn't work.

So I am really wondering now which CF CARD version has ever supported  
the Emax-I ?
Or would the problem be caused by a change of the CF Card board in the  
drive, and not only by the IDE/SCSI adapter board ?

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
 >
 > The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R  
revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that  
one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all)  
samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a  
better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not  
supported.
 > As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/ 
SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I  
wrong ?
 >
 > Are you talking about an even older board ?
 >
 > I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female  
connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the  
unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the  
corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for  
use with non-Acard boards ?
 >
 > ///E-Synthesist
 >
 > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
 > >
 > > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the  
rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
 > >
 > > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from  
scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq  
customers aswell and they did not work
 > >
 > > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the  
older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the  
emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
 > >
 > > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of  
samplers
 > >
 > > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the  
new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and  
the older iodata cards
 > >
 > > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read  
and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there  
will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the  
new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and  
rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: esynthesist
 > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
 > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
 > > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the  
Emax
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly  
the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
 > >
 > > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD  
compatibility list on their website now...
 > >
 > > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
 > >
 > > ///E-Synthesist
 > >
 > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Hi
 > > >
 > > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD  
drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
 > > >
 > > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered  
and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax  
SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers.
 > > >
 > > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq  
EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either,  
I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now  
it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and  
the Emulator-IIIX.
 > > >
 > > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my  
Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD  
drive is not working.
 > > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but  
it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
 > > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers  
when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the  
very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's  
drive by the way.
 > > >
 > > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF  
card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
 > > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax- 
I, I'd like to hear from you !!
 > > >
 > > > Thanks in advance
 > > >
 > > > ///E-Synthesist
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Re: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-19 by jammie

no its an older version 1 board from iodata that works with the emax 1/2 and ensoniqs its called an idesc12-e and it was upto revision 2 software which was the latest os fore it it has 3 extra pins for different types of termination these are the only 1,s that work with ensoniqs

as for a missing pin on your aec7720u mine has the standard 40 pin female plug with all pins showing 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: esynthesist 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:34 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax


    
  The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
  As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?

  Are you talking about an even older board ?

  I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?

  ///E-Synthesist

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >
  > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
  > 
  > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
  > 
  > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
  > 
  > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
  > 
  > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
  > 
  > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: esynthesist 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
  > 
  > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
  > 
  > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
  > 
  > ///E-Synthesist
  > 
  > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Hi 
  > > 
  > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
  > > 
  > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
  > > 
  > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
  > > 
  > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
  > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
  > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
  > > 
  > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
  > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
  > > 
  > > Thanks in advance
  > > 
  > > ///E-Synthesist
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-20 by esynthesist

Do you mean the IDSC21-E or an IDSC12-E ?
In fact I have the IDSC21-E from 1999. But where are the additional 3 pins ? As far as I remember it has the same jumperlayout as the R-IDSC-E/R.



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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>
> no its an older version 1 board from iodata that works with the emax 1/2 and ensoniqs its called an idesc12-e and it was upto revision 2 software which was the latest os fore it it has 3 extra pins for different types of termination these are the only 1,s that work with ensoniqs
> 
> as for a missing pin on your aec7720u mine has the standard 40 pin female plug with all pins showing 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: esynthesist 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:34 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> 
> 
>     
>   The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
>   As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?
> 
>   Are you talking about an even older board ?
> 
>   I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?
> 
>   ///E-Synthesist
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
>   >
>   > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
>   > 
>   > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
>   > 
>   > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
>   > 
>   > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
>   > 
>   > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
>   > 
>   > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: esynthesist 
>   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
>   > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
>   > 
>   > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
>   > 
>   > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
>   > 
>   > ///E-Synthesist
>   > 
>   > --- In emax@...m, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Hi 
>   > > 
>   > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
>   > > 
>   > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
>   > > 
>   > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
>   > > 
>   > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
>   > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
>   > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
>   > > 
>   > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
>   > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
>   > > 
>   > > Thanks in advance
>   > > 
>   > > ///E-Synthesist
>   > >
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
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>   > 
>   > 
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Re: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-21 by jammie

the additional 3 pins are at the bottom right seprate from the other jumper pins i was the 1 who gave the pin configuraton to scsiforsamplers to make them work with ensoniqs as i was using that card for 8 years before he started to sell them
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: esynthesist 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:04 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax


    
  Do you mean the IDSC21-E or an IDSC12-E ?
  In fact I have the IDSC21-E from 1999. But where are the additional 3 pins ? As far as I remember it has the same jumperlayout as the R-IDSC-E/R.

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >
  > no its an older version 1 board from iodata that works with the emax 1/2 and ensoniqs its called an idesc12-e and it was upto revision 2 software which was the latest os fore it it has 3 extra pins for different types of termination these are the only 1,s that work with ensoniqs
  > 
  > as for a missing pin on your aec7720u mine has the standard 40 pin female plug with all pins showing 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: esynthesist 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:34 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
  > As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?
  > 
  > Are you talking about an even older board ?
  > 
  > I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?
  > 
  > ///E-Synthesist
  > 
  > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
  > >
  > > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
  > > 
  > > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
  > > 
  > > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
  > > 
  > > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
  > > 
  > > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
  > > 
  > > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: esynthesist 
  > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
  > > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
  > > 
  > > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
  > > 
  > > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
  > > 
  > > ///E-Synthesist
  > > 
  > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Hi 
  > > > 
  > > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
  > > > 
  > > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
  > > > 
  > > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
  > > > 
  > > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
  > > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
  > > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
  > > > 
  > > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
  > > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
  > > > 
  > > > Thanks in advance
  > > > 
  > > > ///E-Synthesist
  > > >
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > ----------------------------------------------------------
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > No virus found in this incoming message.
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Re: [emax] Re: Emax II SE Development Disk?

2010-04-22 by Simon Forsyth

Emax I banks can be covert loaded into th Emax II without issue and then saved back out as a 16 bit bank.
There was a SE synthesis banks set in Emax II library, but I can't remember if it had the single cycle waveforms the Emax I disc had. either way, I have both and can supply them in EMX format


Simon



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From: ditabeardmemo <brandt@hypefactor.com>
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 1:36:01 AM
Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II SE Development Disk?

  


Thanks E-Synthesist!

So just to clarify: The Spectrum Synthesizer development disk that E-Mu released for the original Emax also works with the Emax II? I was under the impression that the SE waveforms for the original Emax would not translate properly to the Emax II, and therefore assumed the Emax II had its own development disk. Is this incorrect?

Thanks again for your input,
DBM

--- In emax@yahoogroups. com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@ ...> wrote:
>
> The Emax SE Development disk is available from the files section of this group. It's an EMX file.
> Perhaps I will upload a full disk image (e.g. for OmniFlop) also in the near future.
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups. com, "Brandt R. Gassman" <brandt@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone:
> > 
> > I recently acquired an Emax II Turbo rack with fully expanded memory, 
> > and I'm interested in learning more about the Spectrum Synthesis 
> > functionality. Unfortunately, the machine did not come with the 
> > Spectrum Synthesis Development floppy disk specific to the Emax II 
> > series. Does anyone have a copy of this they would be willing to share 
> > or sell?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > DBM
> >
>


 


      

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Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-22 by esynthesist

You're right, this board has 3 additional jumpers (CN5, pins A, B, C) which are missing on the R-IDSC-E/R.
Any idea how the jumpers should be set for Ensoniq EPS Classic and Emax-I ? It was delivered with jumpers B and C set (3-state internal SCSI termination). Should it be only A set (open drain) ? Could something be damages when changing these jumpers ?




--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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>
> the additional 3 pins are at the bottom right seprate from the other jumper pins i was the 1 who gave the pin configuraton to scsiforsamplers to make them work with ensoniqs as i was using that card for 8 years before he started to sell them
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: esynthesist 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:04 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> 
> 
>     
>   Do you mean the IDSC21-E or an IDSC12-E ?
>   In fact I have the IDSC21-E from 1999. But where are the additional 3 pins ? As far as I remember it has the same jumperlayout as the R-IDSC-E/R.
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
>   >
>   > no its an older version 1 board from iodata that works with the emax 1/2 and ensoniqs its called an idesc12-e and it was upto revision 2 software which was the latest os fore it it has 3 extra pins for different types of termination these are the only 1,s that work with ensoniqs
>   > 
>   > as for a missing pin on your aec7720u mine has the standard 40 pin female plug with all pins showing 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: esynthesist 
>   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:34 PM
>   > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
>   > As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?
>   > 
>   > Are you talking about an even older board ?
>   > 
>   > I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?
>   > 
>   > ///E-Synthesist
>   > 
>   > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
>   > > 
>   > > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
>   > > 
>   > > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
>   > > 
>   > > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
>   > > 
>   > > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
>   > > 
>   > > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: esynthesist 
>   > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
>   > > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
>   > > 
>   > > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
>   > > 
>   > > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
>   > > 
>   > > ///E-Synthesist
>   > > 
>   > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Hi 
>   > > > 
>   > > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
>   > > > 
>   > > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
>   > > > 
>   > > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
>   > > > 
>   > > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
>   > > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
>   > > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
>   > > > 
>   > > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
>   > > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
>   > > > 
>   > > > Thanks in advance
>   > > > 
>   > > > ///E-Synthesist
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Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax

2010-04-23 by esynthesist

I just tried other jumper settings on those 3 additional pins but there's no difference at all: this CF CARD unit still doesn't work with neither my Emax I nor my Ensoniq EPS Classic.
I'm wondering whether the problem is not caused by the jumpers on the CF Card board instead of the adapter board...


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
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> You're right, this board has 3 additional jumpers (CN5, pins A, B, C) which are missing on the R-IDSC-E/R.
> Any idea how the jumpers should be set for Ensoniq EPS Classic and Emax-I ? It was delivered with jumpers B and C set (3-state internal SCSI termination). Should it be only A set (open drain) ? Could something be damages when changing these jumpers ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >
> > the additional 3 pins are at the bottom right seprate from the other jumper pins i was the 1 who gave the pin configuraton to scsiforsamplers to make them work with ensoniqs as i was using that card for 8 years before he started to sell them
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: esynthesist 
> >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:04 PM
> >   Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> > 
> > 
> >     
> >   Do you mean the IDSC21-E or an IDSC12-E ?
> >   In fact I have the IDSC21-E from 1999. But where are the additional 3 pins ? As far as I remember it has the same jumperlayout as the R-IDSC-E/R.
> > 
> >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > no its an older version 1 board from iodata that works with the emax 1/2 and ensoniqs its called an idesc12-e and it was upto revision 2 software which was the latest os fore it it has 3 extra pins for different types of termination these are the only 1,s that work with ensoniqs
> >   > 
> >   > as for a missing pin on your aec7720u mine has the standard 40 pin female plug with all pins showing 
> >   > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > From: esynthesist 
> >   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> >   > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:34 PM
> >   > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > The IDE/SCSI board in my CF CARD is currently the R-IDSC-E/R revision 1.28; first it was equipped with the version 1.30.9 but that one didn't work with any of the old Emu (up to IIIX) and Ensoniq (all) samplers. So then I received the "good" board - and indeed it's a better one but still the Emax-I and Ensoniq EPS Classic are not supported. 
> >   > As far as I understand my CF CARD unit has now the "native" IDE/SCSI board which has always been in the CF CARD in the past, or am I wrong ?
> >   > 
> >   > Are you talking about an even older board ?
> >   > 
> >   > I also have the Acard AEC7720U board but its 40 pin IDE female connector doesn't accept all 40 male pins of the CF card board in the unit; one hole is factory-closed on the 7720. Could I just remove the corresponding pin from the CF card board or is this pin important for use with non-Acard boards ?
> >   > 
> >   > ///E-Synthesist
> >   > 
> >   > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > what scsi to ide board do you have with the cfcard if its the rscsi-er then these are the new revision boards and they dont work
> >   > > 
> >   > > only the older revision boards do i told the guy from scsiforsamplers this was the case as he also sold them to ensoniq customers aswell and they did not work
> >   > > 
> >   > > the new boards dont have the 3volt drain termination like the older 1 these seem to be best for the scsi1 operation which the emax1/2 and ensoniqs use
> >   > > 
> >   > > those new boards work better in the akai,s and yamaha range of samplers
> >   > > 
> >   > > and the kurz k2000 and all later models the good thing about the new cards is there is no delay as there were on the acard cards and the older iodata cards
> >   > > 
> >   > > the acard atapi cards i got from ted if i can get them to read and write to the new atapi cf readers that i am working on then there will be a solution again and they are hot swappable they work with the new iodata cards so i can fit them into akais and yams and kurz and rolands they also work with the acard7720 which do work with the emax1/2
> >   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > > From: esynthesist 
> >   > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> >   > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:36 PM
> >   > > Subject: [emax] Re: Using a CF-CARD from SCSIforSamplers with the Emax
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > One other Emax user has responded via e-mail that he has exactly the same problems as me with the CF CARD on an Emax-I...
> >   > > 
> >   > > ...SCSIForSamplers has removed the "Emax SE/HD" from the CF CARD compatibility list on their website now... 
> >   > > 
> >   > > Anyone else who was (un)successful with the CF CARD on the Emax-I ?
> >   > > 
> >   > > ///E-Synthesist
> >   > > 
> >   > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Hi 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > I was wondering if anyone from the group is using a CF-CARD drive from SCSIforSamplers with his/her Emax-I ?
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > I have an external CF-CARD drive here which I recently ordered and it doesn't work with the Emax-I, although compatibility with Emax SE/HD is mentioned on the website of SCSIforSamplers. 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > By the way: I ordered this drive specifically for my Ensoniq EPS, not for my Emax, but since it doesn't work with the EPS either, I'm trying to find out now on which samplers it would work. For now it's proven to be compatible with the Emax-II, the Emulator-III and the Emulator-IIIX.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > While I can (and will) use Ted Summer's internal CF drive in my Emax-I as the primary solution, I'm still wondering why the CF-CARD drive is not working.
> >   > > > It formats the CF card, it even saves banks to the CF card, but it can't read these banks back. Very strange !
> >   > > > I always get a "Hard Disk Error" on both of my Emax samplers when loading banks from the CD CARD drive. Banks I just saved with the very same drive :) The CF cards that I'm using work fine with Ted's drive by the way.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > So perhaps there may be an issue with the class or type of CF card in combination with that specific SCSIForSamplers drive.
> >   > > > If anyone is using the CF CARD drive succesfully with the Emax-I, I'd like to hear from you !!
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Thanks in advance
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > ///E-Synthesist
> >   > > >
> >   > > 
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> >   > > 
> >   > > No virus found in this incoming message.
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