Yahoo Groups archive

Emax

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:23 UTC

Message

Re: [emax] Re: using SDS with Awave

2011-04-23 by James Ulibarri

I hear ya on the transients.  I agree.  It's hard to get a bad sound of the
Emax 1 no matter what you do or how you use it.

-keep Emax'ing



On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:

> Granted the emax always sounds good and with great character, but I like
> the sound when overdriving the input slightly and even without od I like the
> sound of transients sampled in versus sampling to computer then emxp to
> emax. I didn't know sample dumps limit the transposition range. Weird.
>
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> From: jamesulibarri@...
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:43:05 -0600
> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: using SDS with Awave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      Naw, I don't buy that.  That's an old urban legend.  I have A/B'd two
>
> samples monitoring with a pair of Emu PM5's and a JBL sub and it sounds the
>
> same.   The *sample input* samples sound a little hotter because it's
>
> perceived loudness verses actual loudness, because it picks up more noise
> in
>
> the A to D process.  Not that I am against noise in some situations due to
>
> the music I make.  But the rumors people say that they don't sound as good
>
> with midi dumps have been spread for years.   And I have tried it with my
>
> Emulator III and SP1200 and it's the same there too.  It's cleaner too.
>
> There isn't so much of that decimated aliasing at the tail of the sample
>
> that you get sometimes.   But one thing that I haven't figured out is how
> to
>
> span a sample across keys that can be played across keys that sample input
>
> method allows.   So with that in mind, a person should use both methods
>
> probably as I think about it.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The sample inputs sound so much better tho...
>
> >
>
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>
> > From: jamesulibarri@...
>
> > Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 09:15:27 +0000
>
> > Subject: [emax] Re: using SDS with Awave
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >      I figured it out if anyone gives a rat's ass.  But Awave works 100%
>
> > with the Emax 1.  I sold my Emax SE rack last week and now am using the
>
> > keyboard version (non-SE).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I doubt anyone is doing dumps with Awave, but if anyone is,  than make
> sure
>
> > you use the Audio Processing Wizard and convert the samples to the
> samples
>
> > to only the same sampling rates that the Emax 1 supports.. for example
>
> > 42000.  Do not use any commas or it will jack the program up, and it
> won't
>
> > transfer.  I wish someone told me this.  Also make sure you connect your
>
> > midi interface to and from the unit to the Emax 1. So it makes a complete
>
> > handshake.  One way communication won't work as it will find the header
> but
>
> > no end of the loop.  Then use the 12-bit drop down and select the Slow
> Dev.
>
> > option and hit send.  As I said only use targets 15-75 as those are the
> keys
>
> > mapped to the Emax 1.  If you do anything lower or higher than it won't
>
> > work.   So ultimately you can have a different sample on every key.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > This is very cool for me now as my SP1200 and Studio 440 do not have any
>
> > kind of resonation control for the filter.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > After figuring this out on the SP and the Emax, I will never use the
>
> > sampling inputs again.  It's a crap ton easier to use a wave editor and
> just
>
> > do dumps now.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I am a big fan of using Awave doing SDS dumps to the SP1200 with a
> little
>
> >
>
> > > Emu 2x2 midi interface and it works like a champ,
>
> >
>
> > > finally after about 2 years of banging my head against the wall.   So I
>
> > have
>
> >
>
> > > "tried" to do the same thing with my Emax SE rack with the same
> procedure
>
> >
>
> > > and it says a message to the effect of "Transfer Complete" or something
>
> > like
>
> >
>
> > > that.  The same message as the 1200, which works now.  But the problem
> is
>
> >
>
> > > nothing is there!  I will go in and make a new Bank but no matter what
> I
>
> >
>
> > > cannot find the sample.   It's really annoying.   I can't say for sure
>
> > but
>
> >
>
> > > it seems like the data gets sent over but it dissapears or I can't
> access
>
> >
>
> > > the sample, even after mapping it or trying to map it.   And looking at
>
> > my
>
> >
>
> > > memory available at that point, I can see that some ram did get eaten
> up
>
> > a
>
> >
>
> > > little bit, so it must be there.   Anyone have any advise or do SDS
> dumps
>
> >
>
> > > with the Emax?   I am close but something isn't right.   I say it's
> gotta
>
> > be
>
> >
>
> > > me, operator error, but where does my samples go?   Balls, this sucks.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > thanks
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>
> >
>
> > http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>
> http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.