There´s always differencs between input sampled sounds and the imported because there´s so much going on in the conversion process, it´s just not always audible. Almost no sampler shows up the same image of the frequency response curve when sampled and imported sounds are compared. Especially not the old samplers that have a lot of artifacts. All varaints occurs; differences are usually bigger the higher the frequency goes and starts somewhere beyond the common keyboard range, so that only overtones differ. Some samplers shows differences in the lower range. In some cases it´s the sample input that is stronger, on other samplers it´s the imported sound, and there´s some cases where the two levels crosses each other a couple of times on their way up the range.
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From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: using SDS with Awave
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 8:43 PM
Naw, I don't buy that. That's an old urban legend. I have A/B'd two
samples monitoring with a pair of Emu PM5's and a JBL sub and it sounds the
same. The *sample input* samples sound a little hotter because it's
perceived loudness verses actual loudness, because it picks up more noise in
the A to D process. Not that I am against noise in some situations due to
the music I make. But the rumors people say that they don't sound as good
with midi dumps have been spread for years. And I have tried it with my
Emulator III and SP1200 and it's the same there too. It's cleaner too.
There isn't so much of that decimated aliasing at the tail of the sample
that you get sometimes. But one thing that I haven't figured out is how to
span a sample across keys that can be played across keys that sample input
method allows. So with that in mind, a person should use both methods
probably as I think about it.
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
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Re: [emax] Re: using SDS with Awave
2011-04-24 by Henrik