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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 and Alchemy

2011-09-02 by Francis Cote

Hi,

I found a diagnostic guide for Emax but not for Emax 2 on the group's files
section. I saw a sort of  Rs422 in it, is it the same for the Emax 2?

I've been reviewing this thread, and I have a question for Ted Summers. You
wrote you had to remove the modem from your Performa 6214 and a beige G3, am
I to assume you were able to transfert samples from them to you Emax?


Seriously, guys, am I breaking my balls for nothing? Here is where my state
of mind is at this moment... And I really need your advice because you've
had an Emax for a long time and I haven't.

I drive I use in the Emax is a Zip drive, and it works fine. I have a pile
of disks gathered of the time. I got myself a USB 250 MB Zip drive and I was
able to put some banks using EMXP, in a VirtualBox running XP on my Macbook
pro. That, well, put a doubt in my mind because if EMXP enables me to "dump"
samples into a preset on a Zip disk, I have no need for another machine
piled up on my desk.


Here are the computers and other things  I have. I'm looking for
suggestions. My goal is to simplify my sample transfers. And I also have
other samplers I used to transfert with SCSI from a PC, but that PC needs to
be transformed into a NAS. So I'm loosing it... SO I will list those as
well.

Here it goes:

- Powerbook G3 Wallstreet II
- Powermac G4 MDD Dual 867, with an Adaptec AHA-2940U Scsi card.
- MacBook Pro 15" late 2008.
- 250mb USB Zip drive, Zip 100 SCSI on the Emax 2.

Samplers
- Emax 2, Zip 100 SCSI.
- E-Mu E-Synth Classic Dance version, internal 2GB Jaz
- Yamaha A3000 V2, internal Zip 100 SCSI
- Akai S950 (Floppy, but I'm suppose to get my hands on a SCSI card for it
from a friend)
- Roland S550, External Zip 100.

Help....


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:42 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> french language error, its written like that in French :-)))
> sorry Francis. hope you'll get your setup to work soon!
>
> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 22:39, Francis Cote a �crit :
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for confirming this. This will add yet another machine to my pile
> of
> > useless junk! :) Sad, It's a sexy machine.
> >
> > I know the cable is fine. I tested the resistance many times with my
> > multimeter. On the subject, is 4mb of RAM enough to run Alchemy? I'd
> prefer
> > to find some 030 machine if possible. Would I be ok with any 030 machine?
> >
> > P.S. Why are you writing my name with "�" instead of a "c"? It's a French
> > language error! Just messing with you.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> i have a powerbook G3 wallstreet, it doesnt send stuff thru RS422, does
> the
> >> same than you...
> >> i guess you'll have to buy an older powerbook, as said by E-Synthesist,
> for
> >> some
> >> great compatibility the best is really mac SE, or SE/30 (this model is
> much
> >> faster than the SE)
> >>
> >> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 22:20, Francis Cote a �crit :
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Ok...
> >>>
> >>> Number 1 would be consistent other reponses I got. What bothers me is
> the
> >>> fact that I have seen this "complete kit" that includes a Wallstreet G3
> >>> powerbook and an Emax 2 (they suppposedly worked... That is what I had
> >> seen
> >>> on Ebay).
> >>>
> >>> Number 2, I have to check because I got my Emax abobut a month ago...
> So
> >> no,
> >>> I haven't done that test and I'll have to research this for sure.
> >>>
> >>> I'll start with number 2. I don't have a classic Mac to test with (I
> had
> >> a
> >>> few, they ended up in 3 feet of water on spring morning. They didn't
> like
> >>> for some reason).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot you guys for the help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM, esynthesist <esynthesist@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> **
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The problems you have is not really the same as the problem I'm
> >> mentioning
> >>>> on my website - with some Emax-II the samples sent to the Emax-II
> >> through
> >>>> RS422 are corrupt, but even then the RS422 communication itself is
> >> working
> >>>> and a keymap is shown on the screen of Alchemy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Basically imo there are four possible causes of your problem:
> >>>> 1/ The Powerbook's serial port is not 100pct compatible with the Emax
> >> RS422
> >>>> specs. This is true with many Mac computers, especially later
> >> versions...
> >>>> the good old mac classic and SE series and some old powerbooks (165,
> >> 180,
> >>>> ...) are known to be the best choice for old Emu samplers.
> >>>> 2/ The Emax-II's RS422 port is failing. This can be tested with the
> >>>> Diagnostics 3 menu in combination with a small DB9 testplug that you
> >> should
> >>>> build (or by wiring some pins as explained in the diagnostics guide of
> >> the
> >>>> Emax-II) --> did you do this test ?
> >>>> 3/ The cable is not OK. But that can easily be checked with a
> >>>> resistance/multi meter, so this is probably not the issue
> >>>> 4/ The setup in Alchemy is not correct. But there's really not a lot
> to
> >> be
> >>>> set up :-) Just select Emax-II in Network, and then go to
> >>>> Network->Instruments->Edit and make sure RS422 radiobutton is ON and
> the
> >>>> modem port is selected (and plug the cable in the modem port of
> course).
> >>>>
> >>>> (I'm betting on either 1/ or 2/ !)
> >>>>
> >>>> ///E-Synthesist
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can't fiind anything else but OS 2.14 for the Emax 2. I did notice
> on
> >>>>> emxp.net that there own RS422 transfert program has problems with
> some
> >>>> Emax
> >>>>> 2. So, sadly, I guess mine is possibly from that bunch...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I use the serial port. I've seen at least one Emax 2 being sold with
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> same Powerbook and Alchemy.
> >>>>>> I'll look for that tweaked OS. I'm using 2.14.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM, LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Fran�is, You must use the modem port with Alchemy,also
> >>>>>>> you need to have the latest version of emax os,
> >>>>>>> The one upgraded by the Emulator genius that did the EMXP software:
> >>>>>>> http://www.emxp.net/
> >>>>>>> Some Macintosh computers models built after the Mac SE/30 models
> >>>>>>> (basically any with better processors than 68030) may not have the
> >>>> same
> >>>>>>> serial ports specs, thats why it might also not recognise the Emax
> >>>> even if
> >>>>>>> the cable is perfect...
> >>>>>>> Try first with the tweaked OS, it works here for me (Emax 1 & 2,
> Mac
> >>>>>>> SE/30, rs422 cable)
> >>>>>>> Good luck!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 1 sept. 2011 � 03:20, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> a �crit :
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Back from vacation.
> >>>>>>>> I've tested the serial port of my powerbook with my serial MOTU
> Midi
> >>>>>>>> timepiece and it works fine.
> >>>>>>>> So I guessed it had to be the cable, so i used a functional
> miniDin
> >>>> 8,
> >>>>>>>> clipped one end and soldered the DP9 serial connector. I used the
> >>>> pinout
> >>>>>>>> indicated on the Emulator Archives site. I checked the continuity
> of
> >>>>>>> every
> >>>>>>>> pin. The cable is theoretically fine.
> >>>>>>>> I keep getting "Can't get keyboard map from Emax II" in Alchemy.
> >>>> Wether
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> try to send or receive I get the same error.
> >>>>>>>> There might be something I'm doing wrong either in Alchemy or on
> the
> >>>>>>> Emax...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am I suppose to be an a specific module on the Emax? Is there a
> >>>> setting?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I know Midi sample dump is suppose to work, but it's really slow
> and
> >>>> my
> >>>>>>> Emax
> >>>>>>>> is not connected in that way (hard to explain, complicated setup.
> >>>> Which
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> will change if I really really have no choice...)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Any help is welcome!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have a Powerbook G3 Wallstreet. I think it should work, no?
> >>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:44 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> on some Mac models only the modem port works for high speed
> >>>>>>>>> communications as Apple skimped on the port circuitry for the
> >>>> printer
> >>>>>>> port.
> >>>>>>>>>> If you have a modem installed and the modem port is blocked off,
> >>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> remove the modem and then unblock the modem port and use that
> >>>> port.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But again- that depends on model of Mac.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I know it is true for my 6214 Performa and was also true of my
> >>>> Beige
> >>>>>>> G3
> >>>>>>>>> that I had....
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>> Ted
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What do you do to make it work?
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2011-08-09 1:16 AM, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I havent tried my Emax 2, but my Emax 1 works fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>> It did take a little figuring out.
> >>>>>>>>>>> But the speed difference from MIDI to 422 made it well worth
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> effort.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ted
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Johnny Tomasello wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I haven't gotten this to work either (Emax I SH/HD), but use
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> MIDI
> >>>>>>>>>> sample dump instead, which that works fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I know that wasn't any help to you, but I was wondering if the
> >>>>>>> transfer
> >>>>>>>>>> rates were any better using the 422?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> J.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Francis Cote wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't get it to work. Anyone managed to make this work? I
> >>>> kinda
> >>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cable would be the issue, but I checked the pinouts and the
> >>>>>>> connections
> >>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>> fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> My model is a 2mb stereo (2212 I believe).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything I should check?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
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