Emax

Not bad. Looks very nice actually.

/C




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> From: Ted Summers <djtbs1@...>
>To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [emax] Greetings, new Emax 1 owner - questions...
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>Every drive I have seen requires the adapter. 
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>But keeping in mind that there ARE (although harder to find) options that do NOT stick out far in front like the PCD-50b unit.
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>Don't believe me?  Got the whole  "pics or it didn't happen / doesn't exist" vibe?
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>Well at the link below, see my PC Card based drives that don't stick out....
>http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/some-install-related-pics/#jp-carousel-127
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>I added 3 pics to the page today in regards to this post.
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>How did I find the drives I wanted- searching (physical locations) and research. The Microtech I found locally (but admittedly I might have been considered lucky), the IDE based drive I got off ebay through searching weekly until I saw one I believed would suit my installation.
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>In my Emax Rack testbed I used a PCD-50b because it was what I could find at the time and the reasonable price...
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>A gentleman in Germany has plans to build a SCSI based drive and it could be adapted to have Dual slots. 
>i even contacted him for some response and did research into what is required to build them.
>But what I found is that making them is very cost prohibitive.
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>So unless you had like 50 or 100 people who would buy them at what that cost becomes when you have a production run, it simply isn't worth it.
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>Without a production run, the parts are a couple hundred dollars....
>That doesn't include a nice case or the time involved to build them up....
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>Regards,
>Ted
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>On May 20, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Carl Lofgren wrote:
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>Hey Ted - as always, you are a valuable source of information. Damn good to have you here!
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>I haven't looked into Flexidrive closer - but from what I've understood, it's a unit meant to replace floppies in the most varied of equipment. Everything from computers to industrial machines - which make me believe that it might be quite flexible and compatible.
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>Your comments about floppies (even virtual ones) vs SCSI is naturally entirely valid - the only problem for me personally is that the internal Compact Flash readers I've seen for the Emax is... hm... less than pretty - with a huge adapter sticking out - I wouldn't be too happy to have something like that installed in my near mint (yes, actually) Emax I. Are you aware of any Compact Flash readers compatible with the Emax that doesn't require the PC Card adapter?
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>/C
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>> From: Ted Summers <djtbs1@...>
>>To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 7:07 PM
>>Subject: Re: [emax] Greetings, new Emax 1 owner - questions...
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>>All these questions have been hashed and rehashed time and again and the answers should be in the archives...
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>>With that said-----  (disclaimer- I am the one who figured out how to do slim floppy and I am the seller of the Emax SCSI kits)....
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>>#1- The HxC - Ugly and external 
>>- see item c under "Why bother with SCSI"
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>>There is no information on the Flexidrive compatibility with other systems.
>>The floppy in Emax is not a standard PC A/B floppy it uses a drive select closer to the Schugart standard.
>>Most standard floppy drives don't have a drive select points to even solder jumpers anymore...
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>>So the connector pinout must be adapted / converted - I don't see any of the info for the Flexidrive.
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>>#2- Scsi upgrade is $60 including shipping.
>>A slim floppy converter (which must be modified per my instructions on my website) is $10 off ebay
>>Slim floppy drives go for as little as $5 used up to $35 for brand new.
>>I usually just buy a couple or three used for $10-15 off ebay and then I have a spare or two...
>>SCSI PCD-50b Flash drives are going for about $60+ from atari/amiga sites.
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>>#3 Replacing the floppy drive with a stock replacement might be considered cost prohibitive (about $75) but can be done.
>>Some people just want to keep it stock- which is just fine...
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>>Why bother with SCSI?
>>a) This isn't a "hack", the chips are made from the original E-mu binaries
>>- the upgrade procedure from the factory is what is used for the update.
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>>b) It works within the menu's of the Emax OS
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>>c) Unlike Floppy Emulator, you don't have to load Emax OS into every single "floppy" directory- it sees it as a Hard disk, not "99 floppies" or whatever.
>>You load the OS 1 time.
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>>d) An Emax Hard disk contains 35 banks and it is limited to 20MB formattable by Emax.
>>Buying "large" flash isn't useful and small flash cost less...
>>32MB flash is what I use and you can get them CHEAP - $2-3 per flash NEW on ebay.....
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>>e) You do have the ability to have multiple drives if desired- up to 7 (though that might not be practical). :-)
>>In my case I have a Microtech dual slot PC Card drive (model DPAI-SCSI) this gives me a total of 71 accessible banks from 1 drive plus the floppy.
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>>Please note that Emax is only SCSI TARGET aware- so multi-slot drives that are LUN based will only see 1 slot....
>>Multi Slot drives that are TARGET based (like the MIcroTech) will see each slot as a different drive number.
>>- as far as I am aware the most slots MicroTech released in a Target based drive was 3, FYI).
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>>Please note - SCM drives are all LUN based, therefore they will only see 1 slot in Emax 1 and 2.
>>So while they may have 5 slots (PCD-50b) you may only use the PC Card slot with the Emax.
>>I have no note on compatibility for PCD-60b because I have never tested one...
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>>Hope that is helpful.
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>>Regards,
>>Ted
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>>On May 19, 2012, at 1:12 AM, Carl Lofgren wrote:
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>>When I was investigating the HxC (which I think is clever but quite ugly) I found something called Flexidrive S4 - looks like a HxC but with a better build.
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>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4-f-4cE-U
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>>/C
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>>> From: nuwavboy <nuwavboy@...m>
>>>To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 7:59 AM
>>>Subject: [emax] Greetings, new Emax 1 owner - questions...
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>>>Hello - I just picked up a rack Emax 1, non scsi for 50$ with manual. Looks super clean, but I don't have any disks to test it right now, but powers up etc...
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>>>1. the disk eject seems to not be working. I can put a disk in, but the disk doesn't "seat" itself properly, and then I have to pull it out manually.
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>>>2. It's a rev c board, which I assume is upgradeable to scsi...?
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>>>So, since I have little money invested in it so far, what would people recommend for options.
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>>>1. spend the money (about 135$) for an HxC
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>>>2. Scsi upgrade w/slim floppy and scsi card reader
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>>>3. replace the floppy with a working drive (models?)
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>>>I picked this up to play around with and compare to my EII. I'd like to keep it as inexpensive as possible, but am willing toput some work into it.
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>>>Thanks for any advice!
>>>
>>>80sboy
>>>tom
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