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Re: black boxes No boot

2012-06-10 by cheju_99

Ok great advice i'll ask Ted
Thanks for your time

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> basically send it to ted who can test against another mainboard to see where the problem is
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> as you could be nocking your head against the wall not know what is actually wrong
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> you could be changing chips that dont need changing 
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> as it could be a cap thats gone down to earth and dropping a signal to zero volts
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> with out a scope or a anilyser you cant tell
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> as ted can test a good working machine and compare the functions from the none working machine to see if the signals are correct
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: cheju_99 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:05 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: black boxes No boot
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>   Its a keyboard i upload some photos to the forum
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>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
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>   > no the lcd control is seperste from the scanner cpu
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>   > the scanner cpu deals with the keyboard matrix of notes and velocity
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>   > and also scans the front control buttons when a momentary pulse from a button it goes to the correct software access and lights a led if there is a led function for it via some logic switches
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>   > the scanner interfaces with the main cpu giving it all the control information
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>   > cpu with other logic chips deals with the lcd but gets the control information from the scanner cpu and duart
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>   > what board do you have rack or keyboard
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: cheju_99 
>   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:44 PM
>   > Subject: [emax] Re: black boxes No boot
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>   > I am thinking this must be related to a failure in the front panel panel, what do you think?
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>   > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
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>   > > broken floppy
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>   > > this can also make the lcd screen crash
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>   > > remove floppy drive idc cable and see if it comes up with the emu screen
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>   > > it could be a number of chips but i would check the floppy disk controller
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>   > > if your brother is a digital electronics technician then he can check the pulses with a logic anilyser and cross reference with the pdf for the pulse signals to see if he is getting correct signals
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>   > > also have you got the cable the corect way on the floppy is it an original or a replacement as if its a replacement the floppy cable goes the oposit to the original version 
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>   > > as you have to do that on all models due to the manufactureres setting the to pc standard and pin 1 is the oposit side
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: cheju_99 
>   > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:58 PM
>   > > Subject: [emax] Re: black boxes No boot
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>   > > Yes i already check the cables pin 1 is ok. My brother (digital electronics technician) insist that is a power issue, 'cos no spin on the floopy but we checked completely the psu and q2 on the board but the volts are ok, i am seriously thinkig my pal chips are dead, what do you think???
>   > > 
>   > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > You may also wish to reseat the IC's on the right half of the Emax logic board including the EPROM.
>   > > > My testbed for the SCSI kits does this as it gets flexed from many IC removal / replacement and so the seating of IC's isn't great.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Once I reseat everything I will get my display back and floppy whirring away- IT's ALIVE, ALIVE!!!!
>   > > > BWAHAHAHA!!!
>   > > > 
>   > > > Just a thought.
>   > > > The other option is to send it to jammie or me (depend on where you live). I doubt it is dead, you may just be looking at the wrong thing / area of the board.
>   > > > 
>   > > > or Jammie has some boards... I do believe.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Thx,
>   > > > Ted
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>   > > > 
>   > > > On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:12 AM, jammie wrote:
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>   > > > check the digital to audio board cable have you got it reversed
>   > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > From: cheju_99 
>   > > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 3:50 AM
>   > > > Subject: [emax] black boxes No boot
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>   > > > After spending many dollars buying the technical manual, and the 6500 scan processor from eprelectronics, definitely with no success triying to start an emax 1- Right now got the unit with the display showing black boxes, a floppy drive who doesn´t spin, and definitely no boot. Any idea from the people´s forum????......hurry the trash truck is coming. 
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