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Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user

2012-10-05 by Tony Court

Thanks Ted - JM-215A mods completed..... time to fabricate some brackets
and get everything in place :)

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

> The screwholes on the bottom of the PCD drive match the original floppy
> exactly.
> However, the thread is different, if I recall.
> For mounting you get some flat metal and drill the holes.
> The holes front to back are the same for slim and PCD.
> The distance is .9 inches up, center to center of the holes on the side of
> the PCD drive.
>
> Slim floppy drives use 2.6MM screws.
> They are used in RC cars also.
> Duratrax makes a kit of screws.
> Use the shortest screws on the front.
> If they are put in too far, they will make the disk appear out of
> alignment and you will get CRC errors and the disk may not easily eject.
> So use 3 washers on the outside of the metal bracket to keep the screws
> from going in too far.
>
> As to spacers- use some washers or fab them from metal or nylon or use
> some small nuts.
>
> There isn't anything pre-made for it- you just have to fabricate it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Tony Court wrote:
>
> So..... I now have all the parts required for the slim floppy and cf
> upgrade, including a 2nd JM-215A (just in case!). Hopefully I'll get a
> chance to complete this upgrade tomorrow.
>
> Do you have any recommendations for how to position and secure both
> drives? The Teac floppy drive is narrower than the PCD-50B. All the pics on
> Teds website show the floppy on top. How are they secured to each other and
> then to the original floppy drive mounting?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 27, 2012, at 22:29, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>
> > TEAC FD-05 for slim floppy- check ebay.
> > JM-215A to convert it for use with Emax
> > Instructions for modification at my website.
> > PCD-50b using the PC- Card slot for whatever flash media you choose.
> > 32MB flash media.
> >
> > Again- see my website.
> > http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
> > On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, sofad_1999 wrote:
> >
> > any idea where to purchase them from/instructions/part numbers etc? I'm
> confident I can do the work, just unsure what parts to get and how to
> install.
> >
> > thanks again
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> i would not bother that get your self a slimfloppy and cf drive
> >>
> >> the costing wont be much different
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Tony Court
> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:57 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I had already tried a floppy boot with the HD disconnected :(
> >>
> >> I'm going to take the plunge and order a new floppy drive from
> route66studios and see if that fixes things.
> >>
> >> I'll report back when I've tested it :)
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your help.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:55, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> sounds like you got a dud floppy drive and a bad scsi drive
> >>>
> >>> as the person who owned it before if there was a scsi drive would of
> definetly put the os on it
> >>>
> >>> have you tried removing the scsi cable
> >>>
> >>> and seeing if the floppy will boot as the hard drive could be on
> constant seek which would stop the floppy drive from booting
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Tony Court
> >>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:50 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
> >>>
> >>> So..... I have cleaned the floppy drive and tried again with both the
> OS floppy in (the original E-mu disk and the 2 I made using emxp), I also
> tried with no floppy disk inserted (but the floppy drive still connected)
> to see if it would boot from HD.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately I still get exactly the same errors. Both the floppy and
> the hard drive are clicking/spinning up, so they have power.
> >>>
> >>> I was aware that the floppies needed to be DD, not HD, and covered up
> the relevant holes.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way to confirm that SCSI is working? Could that be the
> issue? Or should I go for a replacement floppy drive? I'm a bit stuck now :(
> >>>
> >>> I look forward to your replies!
> >>>
> >>> Tony
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:51, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Emax 1 / 2 requires the floppy drive to be attached.
> >>>> You can't not have a floppy drive unless you jumper the floppy
> connector-
> >>>> that will definitely prevent a successful boot.
> >>>> As to the floppy, you can create a new one with EMX (DOS) or EMXP
> utilities
> >>>> and try and boot from it.
> >>>> You may wish to use this existing floppy as it was probably formatted
> by
> >>>> Emax initially and write the OS to it with one of the utilities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, please note that Emax uses DSDD not DSHD disks.
> >>>> So you have to use either DSDD or cover the hole which indicates
> >>>> High-density disk.
> >>>>
> >>>> or you can also buy an Emax OS floppy disk off ebay if the above
> doesn't
> >>>> work for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Ted
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jammie and thanks for the info.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm sure at some stage during my testing I tried just the HD
> connected and
> >>>>> was getting the same issue..... I will test again tonight and let
> you know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the HD does not have the OS installed, and the Floppy drive is
> fried....
> >>>>> do you have any recommendations on how to get the OS onto the HD? I
> >>>>> currently have no way of connecting the 50-pin SCSI to my computer,
> but am
> >>>>> willing to purchase PCI-E cards etc if the price is right ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again for your help so far and I'll let you know about the OS
> on the
> >>>>> HD when I get home tonight.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also have a zip100 drive that I have yet to play with, and 2 zip
> disks
> >>>>> full of sounds. Not sure if the OS might be on one of the zip disks
> as
> >>>>> well?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tony
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:57 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> if it has an internal drive that should have the os on it and
> should boot
> >>>>>> from the hd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> dont put a disk in the floppydrive and just have the hd load os
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> disk not formated means that the floppy drive is being seen and is
> doing
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> floppy read when it comes up as not formated its either a bad disk
> or the
> >>>>>> floppy drive is shot
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> do try the cleaning kit first as it can just need a good clean
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> which i have had todo on a number of old floppy drives
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> none of the buttons will be functional until the os is present
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: sofad_1999
> >>>>>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:59 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: [emax] New Emax II user
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just got a cheap Emax II 2212 model, and am currently wondering
> if it
> >>>>>> wasn't such a good deal after all....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FYI - It has a 250mb Apple SCSI drive inside, and the original SCSI
> >>>>> floppy
> >>>>>> drive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have the original 2.14 OS disk, and I have also created
> additional 2.14
> >>>>>> OS disks using EMXP
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I power on the Emax II with the OS floppy disk in the drive I
> get
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> following messages:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Checking Floppy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Loading Software
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Disk Not Formatted
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and then a loop of Loading Software/Disk Not Formatted
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I can hear the floppy drive clicking every 10-15 seconds. I get red
> >>>>> lights
> >>>>>> on STOP and RECORD.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> None of the buttons are functional.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tried disconnecting the internal Hard Drive to see if that
> makes a
> >>>>>> difference and nothing changes. I have also tried disconnecting the
> >>>>> Floppy
> >>>>>> to see if it will boot from the HD, and again nothing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what may be the
> problem?
> >>>>>> I have a floppy drive cleaning kit on order, just in case... and am
> >>>>>> prepared to splash out on a new floppy drive if that is definitely
> the
> >>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tony
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