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Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user

2012-10-05 by jammie

sorry i miss understood i thought you were talking about a emax1

no the emax 2 os is fine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Court" <anthony.court@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user


> But (and I may just not understand things correctly as this is my first
> Emax II) NONE of the buttons are responsive.
>
> I currently have JUST the floppy and external Zip 100  connected (for
> testing), no CF, no internal HD. With no floppy in the drive, it cycles
> through 'Checking SCSI 1-7 but does not boot. With the floppy inserted (OS
> 2.14) it boots up and displays P00 Untitled, the enter button flashes, and
> none of the buttons are responsive.
>
> Are you saying that if I make another OS floppy disk using EMXP and the
> emaxplus10.zip from the groups files section, it should boot to the 'plus'
> OS, the buttons will become responsive, and I can then manually select to
> load sounds from the external zip drive? (SCSI 5)
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, jammie 
> <jammie.emma@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> you need the plus os to change scsi id
>>
>> otherwise it will only see scsi id0 which if you connected the cf drive
>> right that willbe scsi id 0
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tony Court
>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user
>>
>> so - I have the new slim floppy and CF drives installed......
>>
>> I load the OS from floppy (it's the first time I've seen it load), and I
>> now get on my screen 'P00 Untitled' and the enter light is flashing.
>>
>> I have attached my SCSI Zip100 drive with some Emax II sounds on those
>> disks, but I can't seem to select the drive ('Drive Select' button does
>> nothing). It's definitely a SCSI zip (it has the 5/6 selector and the
>> termination switch).
>>
>> Any ideas how to load the sounds from the SCSI zip drive?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Ted - JM-215A mods completed..... time to fabricate some 
>> > brackets
>> > and get everything in place :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The screwholes on the bottom of the PCD drive match the original 
>> >> floppy
>> >> exactly.
>> >> However, the thread is different, if I recall.
>> >> For mounting you get some flat metal and drill the holes.
>> >> The holes front to back are the same for slim and PCD.
>> >> The distance is .9 inches up, center to center of the holes on the 
>> >> side
>> >> of the PCD drive.
>> >>
>> >> Slim floppy drives use 2.6MM screws.
>> >> They are used in RC cars also.
>> >> Duratrax makes a kit of screws.
>> >> Use the shortest screws on the front.
>> >> If they are put in too far, they will make the disk appear out of
>> >> alignment and you will get CRC errors and the disk may not easily 
>> >> eject.
>> >> So use 3 washers on the outside of the metal bracket to keep the 
>> >> screws
>> >> from going in too far.
>> >>
>> >> As to spacers- use some washers or fab them from metal or nylon or use
>> >> some small nuts.
>> >>
>> >> There isn't anything pre-made for it- you just have to fabricate it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Tony Court wrote:
>> >>
>> >> So..... I now have all the parts required for the slim floppy and cf
>> >> upgrade, including a 2nd JM-215A (just in case!). Hopefully I'll get a
>> >> chance to complete this upgrade tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have any recommendations for how to position and secure both
>> >> drives? The Teac floppy drive is narrower than the PCD-50B. All the
>> pics on
>> >> Teds website show the floppy on top. How are they secured to each 
>> >> other
>> and
>> >> then to the original floppy drive mounting?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 22:29, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > TEAC FD-05 for slim floppy- check ebay.
>> >> > JM-215A to convert it for use with Emax
>> >> > Instructions for modification at my website.
>> >> > PCD-50b using the PC- Card slot for whatever flash media you choose.
>> >> > 32MB flash media.
>> >> >
>> >> > Again- see my website.
>> >> > http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, sofad_1999 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > any idea where to purchase them from/instructions/part numbers etc?
>> I'm
>> >> confident I can do the work, just unsure what parts to get and how to
>> >> install.
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks again
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> i would not bother that get your self a slimfloppy and cf drive
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the costing wont be much different
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: Tony Court
>> >> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:57 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I had already tried a floppy boot with the HD disconnected :(
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm going to take the plunge and order a new floppy drive from
>> >> route66studios and see if that fixes things.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll report back when I've tested it :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks again for your help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tony
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:55, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> sounds like you got a dud floppy drive and a bad scsi drive
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> as the person who owned it before if there was a scsi drive would 
>> >> >>> of
>> >> definetly put the os on it
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> have you tried removing the scsi cable
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> and seeing if the floppy will boot as the hard drive could be on
>> >> constant seek which would stop the floppy drive from booting
>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> From: Tony Court
>> >> >>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:50 PM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So..... I have cleaned the floppy drive and tried again with both
>> the
>> >> OS floppy in (the original E-mu disk and the 2 I made using emxp), I
>> also
>> >> tried with no floppy disk inserted (but the floppy drive still
>> connected)
>> >> to see if it would boot from HD.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Unfortunately I still get exactly the same errors. Both the floppy
>> >> and the hard drive are clicking/spinning up, so they have power.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I was aware that the floppies needed to be DD, not HD, and covered
>> up
>> >> the relevant holes.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Is there a way to confirm that SCSI is working? Could that be the
>> >> issue? Or should I go for a replacement floppy drive? I'm a bit stuck
>> now :(
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I look forward to your replies!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Tony
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:51, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Emax 1 / 2 requires the floppy drive to be attached.
>> >> >>>> You can't not have a floppy drive unless you jumper the floppy
>> >> connector-
>> >> >>>> that will definitely prevent a successful boot.
>> >> >>>> As to the floppy, you can create a new one with EMX (DOS) or EMXP
>> >> utilities
>> >> >>>> and try and boot from it.
>> >> >>>> You may wish to use this existing floppy as it was probably
>> >> formatted by
>> >> >>>> Emax initially and write the OS to it with one of the utilities.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Also, please note that Emax uses DSDD not DSHD disks.
>> >> >>>> So you have to use either DSDD or cover the hole which indicates
>> >> >>>> High-density disk.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> or you can also buy an Emax OS floppy disk off ebay if the above
>> >> doesn't
>> >> >>>> work for you.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Regards,
>> >> >>>> Ted
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Tony Court <anthony.court@...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Hi Jammie and thanks for the info.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I'm sure at some stage during my testing I tried just the HD
>> >> connected and
>> >> >>>>> was getting the same issue..... I will test again tonight and 
>> >> >>>>> let
>> >> you know.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> If the HD does not have the OS installed, and the Floppy drive 
>> >> >>>>> is
>> >> fried....
>> >> >>>>> do you have any recommendations on how to get the OS onto the 
>> >> >>>>> HD?
>> I
>> >> >>>>> currently have no way of connecting the 50-pin SCSI to my
>> computer,
>> >> but am
>> >> >>>>> willing to purchase PCI-E cards etc if the price is right ;)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Thanks again for your help so far and I'll let you know about 
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> OS on the
>> >> >>>>> HD when I get home tonight.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I also have a zip100 drive that I have yet to play with, and 2 
>> >> >>>>> zip
>> >> disks
>> >> >>>>> full of sounds. Not sure if the OS might be on one of the zip
>> disks
>> >> as
>> >> >>>>> well?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Tony
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:57 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> **
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> if it has an internal drive that should have the os on it and
>> >> should boot
>> >> >>>>>> from the hd
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> dont put a disk in the floppydrive and just have the hd load os
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> disk not formated means that the floppy drive is being seen and
>> is
>> >> doing
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> floppy read when it comes up as not formated its either a bad
>> disk
>> >> or the
>> >> >>>>>> floppy drive is shot
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> do try the cleaning kit first as it can just need a good clean
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> which i have had todo on a number of old floppy drives
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> none of the buttons will be functional until the os is present
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>>>>> From: sofad_1999
>> >> >>>>>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:59 AM
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: [emax] New Emax II user
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I just got a cheap Emax II 2212 model, and am currently 
>> >> >>>>>> wondering
>> >> if it
>> >> >>>>>> wasn't such a good deal after all....
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> FYI - It has a 250mb Apple SCSI drive inside, and the original
>> SCSI
>> >> >>>>> floppy
>> >> >>>>>> drive.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I have the original 2.14 OS disk, and I have also created
>> >> additional 2.14
>> >> >>>>>> OS disks using EMXP
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> When I power on the Emax II with the OS floppy disk in the 
>> >> >>>>>> drive
>> I
>> >> get
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>> following messages:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Checking Floppy
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Loading Software
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Disk Not Formatted
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> and then a loop of Loading Software/Disk Not Formatted
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I can hear the floppy drive clicking every 10-15 seconds. I get
>> red
>> >> >>>>> lights
>> >> >>>>>> on STOP and RECORD.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> None of the buttons are functional.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I have tried disconnecting the internal Hard Drive to see if 
>> >> >>>>>> that
>> >> makes a
>> >> >>>>>> difference and nothing changes. I have also tried disconnecting
>> the
>> >> >>>>> Floppy
>> >> >>>>>> to see if it will boot from the HD, and again nothing.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what may be 
>> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> problem?
>> >> >>>>>> I have a floppy drive cleaning kit on order, just in case... 
>> >> >>>>>> and
>> am
>> >> >>>>>> prepared to splash out on a new floppy drive if that is
>> definitely
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>> problem.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Tony
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