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Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user

2012-10-05 by jammie

have you tried pressing the enter button

becuase the p00 untitled programmight be blank

hence why you are getting no response from keys


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Court" <anthony.court@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user


> ok - so I'm thinking it may be that :(
>
> I get P00 Untitled on both rows of the display, a cursor flashing on the
> first 0 on the lower row, flashing Red light next to the 'Enter' button. 
> No
> response from either the piano keys (no sound), or the buttons.
>
> Is this scanner IC chip replaceable and are they still available?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:07 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> p00 is the defualt program now if you are pressing buttons but nothing
>> happens there could be a problem with the keyboard scanner ic chip
>>
>> this deals with the scanning of the keyboard and all buttons and led
>> control
>>
>> if it fails you basically cant do anything
>>
>> have you checked that the ribboncable is seated correctly
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tony Court" <anthony.court@...>
>> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user
>>
>> > Thanks for your reply... so, if I'm using the correct OS for the Emax 
>> > II
>> > (2.14), any idea why none of the buttons are responsive and all I can 
>> > get
>> > after booting from floppy is the default P00 Untitled?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:57 PM, jammie
>> > <jammie.emma@...>wrote:
>> >
>> >> **
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> sorry i miss understood i thought you were talking about a emax1
>> >>
>> >> no the emax 2 os is fine
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Tony Court" <anthony.court@...>
>> >> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:31 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user
>> >>
>> >> > But (and I may just not understand things correctly as this is my
>> first
>> >> > Emax II) NONE of the buttons are responsive.
>> >> >
>> >> > I currently have JUST the floppy and external Zip 100 connected (for
>> >> > testing), no CF, no internal HD. With no floppy in the drive, it
>> cycles
>> >> > through 'Checking SCSI 1-7 but does not boot. With the floppy 
>> >> > inserted
>> >> (OS
>> >> > 2.14) it boots up and displays P00 Untitled, the enter button 
>> >> > flashes,
>> >> and
>> >> > none of the buttons are responsive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are you saying that if I make another OS floppy disk using EMXP and
>> the
>> >> > emaxplus10.zip from the groups files section, it should boot to the
>> >> 'plus'
>> >> > OS, the buttons will become responsive, and I can then manually
>> select
>> >> > to
>> >> > load sounds from the external zip drive? (SCSI 5)
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, jammie
>> >> > <jammie.emma@...>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> **
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you need the plus os to change scsi id
>> >> >>
>> >> >> otherwise it will only see scsi id0 which if you connected the cf
>> >> >> drive
>> >> >> right that willbe scsi id 0
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: Tony Court
>> >> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:54 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: New Emax II user
>> >> >>
>> >> >> so - I have the new slim floppy and CF drives installed......
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I load the OS from floppy (it's the first time I've seen it load),
>> and
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> now get on my screen 'P00 Untitled' and the enter light is 
>> >> >> flashing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have attached my SCSI Zip100 drive with some Emax II sounds on
>> those
>> >> >> disks, but I can't seem to select the drive ('Drive Select' button
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> nothing). It's definitely a SCSI zip (it has the 5/6 selector and 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> termination switch).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas how to load the sounds from the SCSI zip drive?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Tony Court 
>> >> >> <anthony.court@...
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Thanks Ted - JM-215A mods completed..... time to fabricate some
>> >> >> > brackets
>> >> >> > and get everything in place :)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> The screwholes on the bottom of the PCD drive match the original
>> >> >> >> floppy
>> >> >> >> exactly.
>> >> >> >> However, the thread is different, if I recall.
>> >> >> >> For mounting you get some flat metal and drill the holes.
>> >> >> >> The holes front to back are the same for slim and PCD.
>> >> >> >> The distance is .9 inches up, center to center of the holes on 
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> side
>> >> >> >> of the PCD drive.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Slim floppy drives use 2.6MM screws.
>> >> >> >> They are used in RC cars also.
>> >> >> >> Duratrax makes a kit of screws.
>> >> >> >> Use the shortest screws on the front.
>> >> >> >> If they are put in too far, they will make the disk appear out 
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> alignment and you will get CRC errors and the disk may not 
>> >> >> >> easily
>> >> >> >> eject.
>> >> >> >> So use 3 washers on the outside of the metal bracket to keep the
>> >> >> >> screws
>> >> >> >> from going in too far.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> As to spacers- use some washers or fab them from metal or nylon 
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> use
>> >> >> >> some small nuts.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> There isn't anything pre-made for it- you just have to fabricate
>> >> >> >> it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Tony Court wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So..... I now have all the parts required for the slim floppy 
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> cf
>> >> >> >> upgrade, including a 2nd JM-215A (just in case!). Hopefully I'll
>> >> >> >> get
>> >> a
>> >> >> >> chance to complete this upgrade tomorrow.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Do you have any recommendations for how to position and secure
>> both
>> >> >> >> drives? The Teac floppy drive is narrower than the PCD-50B. All
>> the
>> >> >> pics on
>> >> >> >> Teds website show the floppy on top. How are they secured to 
>> >> >> >> each
>> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> then to the original floppy drive mounting?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Tony
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 22:29, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > TEAC FD-05 for slim floppy- check ebay.
>> >> >> >> > JM-215A to convert it for use with Emax
>> >> >> >> > Instructions for modification at my website.
>> >> >> >> > PCD-50b using the PC- Card slot for whatever flash media you
>> >> choose.
>> >> >> >> > 32MB flash media.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Again- see my website.
>> >> >> >> > http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, sofad_1999 wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > any idea where to purchase them from/instructions/part numbers
>> >> >> >> > etc?
>> >> >> I'm
>> >> >> >> confident I can do the work, just unsure what parts to get and
>> how
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> install.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > thanks again
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> i would not bother that get your self a slimfloppy and cf 
>> >> >> >> >> drive
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> the costing wont be much different
>> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> >> From: Tony Court
>> >> >> >> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:57 PM
>> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I had already tried a floppy boot with the HD disconnected :(
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'm going to take the plunge and order a new floppy drive 
>> >> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> route66studios and see if that fixes things.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'll report back when I've tested it :)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Thanks again for your help.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Tony
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:55, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> sounds like you got a dud floppy drive and a bad scsi drive
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> as the person who owned it before if there was a scsi drive
>> >> would
>> >> >> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >> definetly put the os on it
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> have you tried removing the scsi cable
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> and seeing if the floppy will boot as the hard drive could 
>> >> >> >> >>> be
>> >> >> >> >>> on
>> >> >> >> constant seek which would stop the floppy drive from booting
>> >> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> >>> From: Tony Court
>> >> >> >> >>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:50 PM
>> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [emax] New Emax II user
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> So..... I have cleaned the floppy drive and tried again with
>> >> >> >> >>> both
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> OS floppy in (the original E-mu disk and the 2 I made using
>> emxp),
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> also
>> >> >> >> tried with no floppy disk inserted (but the floppy drive still
>> >> >> connected)
>> >> >> >> to see if it would boot from HD.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Unfortunately I still get exactly the same errors. Both the
>> >> floppy
>> >> >> >> and the hard drive are clicking/spinning up, so they have power.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I was aware that the floppies needed to be DD, not HD, and
>> >> covered
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> >> the relevant holes.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Is there a way to confirm that SCSI is working? Could that 
>> >> >> >> >>> be
>> >> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> issue? Or should I go for a replacement floppy drive? I'm a bit
>> >> >> >> stuck
>> >> >> now :(
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I look forward to your replies!
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Tony
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:51, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Emax 1 / 2 requires the floppy drive to be attached.
>> >> >> >> >>>> You can't not have a floppy drive unless you jumper the
>> floppy
>> >> >> >> connector-
>> >> >> >> >>>> that will definitely prevent a successful boot.
>> >> >> >> >>>> As to the floppy, you can create a new one with EMX (DOS) 
>> >> >> >> >>>> or
>> >> EMXP
>> >> >> >> utilities
>> >> >> >> >>>> and try and boot from it.
>> >> >> >> >>>> You may wish to use this existing floppy as it was probably
>> >> >> >> formatted by
>> >> >> >> >>>> Emax initially and write the OS to it with one of the
>> >> >> >> >>>> utilities.
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Also, please note that Emax uses DSDD not DSHD disks.
>> >> >> >> >>>> So you have to use either DSDD or cover the hole which
>> >> >> >> >>>> indicates
>> >> >> >> >>>> High-density disk.
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> or you can also buy an Emax OS floppy disk off ebay if the
>> >> >> >> >>>> above
>> >> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> >> >>>> work for you.
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Regards,
>> >> >> >> >>>> Ted
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Tony Court
>> >> >> >> >>>> <anthony.court@...>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> Hi Jammie and thanks for the info.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> I'm sure at some stage during my testing I tried just the 
>> >> >> >> >>>>> HD
>> >> >> >> connected and
>> >> >> >> >>>>> was getting the same issue..... I will test again tonight
>> and
>> >> >> >> >>>>> let
>> >> >> >> you know.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> If the HD does not have the OS installed, and the Floppy
>> >> >> >> >>>>> drive
>> >> >> >> >>>>> is
>> >> >> >> fried....
>> >> >> >> >>>>> do you have any recommendations on how to get the OS onto
>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>> HD?
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >>>>> currently have no way of connecting the 50-pin SCSI to my
>> >> >> computer,
>> >> >> >> but am
>> >> >> >> >>>>> willing to purchase PCI-E cards etc if the price is right 
>> >> >> >> >>>>> ;)
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> Thanks again for your help so far and I'll let you know
>> about
>> >> >> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> OS on the
>> >> >> >> >>>>> HD when I get home tonight.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> I also have a zip100 drive that I have yet to play with,
>> and
>> >> >> >> >>>>> 2
>> >> >> >> >>>>> zip
>> >> >> >> disks
>> >> >> >> >>>>> full of sounds. Not sure if the OS might be on one of the
>> zip
>> >> >> disks
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >>>>> well?
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> Tony
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:57 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> **
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> if it has an internal drive that should have the os on it
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >> >> should boot
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> from the hd
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> dont put a disk in the floppydrive and just have the hd
>> load
>> >> os
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> disk not formated means that the floppy drive is being 
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> seen
>> >> and
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> doing
>> >> >> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> floppy read when it comes up as not formated its either a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> bad
>> >> >> disk
>> >> >> >> or the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> floppy drive is shot
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> do try the cleaning kit first as it can just need a good
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> clean
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> which i have had todo on a number of old floppy drives
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> none of the buttons will be functional until the os is
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> present
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> From: sofad_1999
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:59 AM
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Subject: [emax] New Emax II user
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Hi all,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> I just got a cheap Emax II 2212 model, and am currently
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> wondering
>> >> >> >> if it
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> wasn't such a good deal after all....
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> FYI - It has a 250mb Apple SCSI drive inside, and the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> original
>> >> >> SCSI
>> >> >> >> >>>>> floppy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> drive.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> I have the original 2.14 OS disk, and I have also created
>> >> >> >> additional 2.14
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> OS disks using EMXP
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> When I power on the Emax II with the OS floppy disk in 
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> drive
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> get
>> >> >> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> following messages:
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Checking Floppy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Loading Software
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Disk Not Formatted
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> and then a loop of Loading Software/Disk Not Formatted
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> I can hear the floppy drive clicking every 10-15 seconds. 
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> get
>> >> >> red
>> >> >> >> >>>>> lights
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> on STOP and RECORD.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> None of the buttons are functional.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> I have tried disconnecting the internal Hard Drive to see
>> if
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> that
>> >> >> >> makes a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> difference and nothing changes. I have also tried
>> >> disconnecting
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>> Floppy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> to see if it will boot from the HD, and again nothing.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what may
>> be
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> problem?
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> I have a floppy drive cleaning kit on order, just in
>> case...
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >> am
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> prepared to splash out on a new floppy drive if that is
>> >> >> definitely
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> problem.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Tony
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