Emax

can any tell me i thought that pci macs were os8

i always used nubus macs and when theuy went pci 

i went pc and kept the nubus mac

as mac kept on changing the os and the hardware and the expensive hardware we brought became obsolete

its still the same today with the macs 

thats why a 10-20000 pt system that went from pci to pcie was suddenly only worth 1 -3000 

and now mac have gone the native route with there small pcie card 

even the last generation of ptools kits are worthless in price

apart from my nubus macs i wont ever use macs again

they over charge for everything 

its up to you what you buy and use but the midi stuff changed in os8 and hence why 2.5 and 2.8 dont have midi sampler support


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: being2080 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:59 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: sdemax, sound designer for emax?


    
  sorry for my slow response...

  so... to run sound designer reliably or alchemy you need a pre-g3 mac to run system 7.6. ok i got that.

  but now, it is pci or nubus? 

  i rather have a mac with pci bus, i think there are more and better options.

  audiomedia3 card does not talk to sd2. but does it talk to sound designer for emax? i am trying to get that specific sound designer version built for emax working, because it is possible to edit and setup programs (presets in emu sampling terminology) as well as editing samples and other very convenient functions, if i recall reading it somewhere right. maybe sound designer for emax is more or less like the graphical editor for akai s5000 / s6000? 

  is there any reason to have a sound card in those pre-g3 macs? i found that there is a sound output port on 8600, 9600, or any other macs produced around that time, including Power Book 3400c (the last laptop mac that can run 7.5 or 7.6). isn't that good enough for monitoring when editing samples? audio quality from such output can't be great but just trimming or setting loop points of samples, it may not be necessary. 

  but if it is possible to process samples with effects inside of those macs, it will be nice to have decent quality audio put... 

  is there ways to process samples with effects in a mac running system 7.6? plugins, sample editor with effects? the era feels pretty far away...

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >
  > max is 7.6.1
  > 
  > any machine before g3 will work
  > 
  > 
  > but if using audiomedia3 card it does not talk to sd2
  > 
  > only cards that talk to sd2 is audiomedia2 and soundtools1 and 
  > soundexcellerator2
  > 
  > but these only work in nubus macs
  > 
  > i have a macIIsi
  > 
  > which works perfect 128mb ram and scsi as standard and floppy disk
  > 
  > g3 no floppy support
  > 
  > so have older programs problem loading
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
  > To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:58 PM
  > Subject: Re: [emax] Re: sdemax, sound designer for emax?
  > 
  > 
  > > no- not required for SD for Emax.
  > >
  > > But having a PCI bus slot allows you some add on card / upgrade options 
  > > for
  > > video, etc.
  > > Radeon 7000 card for better video (for example).
  > > Add in Audiomedia 3 card, if you want to run ProTools, etc.
  > > Faster SCSI adapter, etc.
  > >
  > > 7.6.1 is the last OS that is officially supported with Alchemy 3.0 which 
  > > is
  > > also a really good sound editor as well as the Sound Designer.
  > > It has bank transfer via RS422 / midi to Emax also.
  > >
  > > Also- I know SD2 for Emax works on 7.6.1.
  > >
  > > OS 8 and later can result in odd occurrence / errors.
  > > My Beige G3 which I had back in the day came with OS 8.
  > > The G3 cannot run earlier than OS 8.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:41 AM, being2080 <being2080@...> wrote:
  > >
  > >> **
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> having a PCI bus / slot is "requirement" for SDEMAX?
  > >>
  > >> how about the mother board?
  > >>
  > >> may i ask why OS7.6 the most desirable os?
  > >>
  > >> i was thinking of getting a powerbook, maybe a powerbook 180 or earlier
  > >> ones, as someone pointed out on this group form.
  > >>
  > >> for following reasons.
  > >>
  > >> 1. it is relatively quite (unlike later G3 or G4)
  > >>
  > >> 2. do believe it is fully compatible (came out about the time of Mac SE).
  > >> - it has that serial port which a special RS422 cable could be plugged in
  > >> (i think it has to be built in serial interface, that is set for printer 
  > >> or
  > >> modem. maybe there could be a possible compatibility issue. sound 
  > >> designer
  > >> universal running on a G4 won't even recognize my usb interface though it
  > >> should be able to send samples through MIDI)
  > >>
  > >> 3. quiet compare to desktop Macs
  > >>
  > >> 4. somewhat take less space
  > >>
  > >> 5. consumes less electricity
  > >>
  > >> 6. less cables
  > >>
  > >> but, i do realize that getting a faster ones won't hurt. even possible to
  > >> process some sample with plugins (basic eq or compressor) if any exist in
  > >> OS7 or OS8...
  > >>
  > >> so, if 7300 or 7600 works, maybe possible to go with later ones as G3s?
  > >> they can run OS8 and has a serial port built-in. any idea on that? heard
  > >> anyone using a G3 machine?
  > >>
  > >> getting an Emax to full capacity is not easy!!! so ancient instrument! 
  > >> yet
  > >> sounds damn sweet...
  > >>
  > >> thanks!
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >
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  > >
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  > >
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