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old emax drives

2014-02-08 by jammie.emma@...

i had several old emax drives i have been testing them over the last few weeks and can confirm that all have misaligment issues

i tested each one with disk written from a new slim floppy in one emax machine then loaded it into a test machine with each floppy drive and all failed to load the new disk

so i did more experiments by formatting the drives in the emu with the old drives and they formated the disk and would load from that drive but when i tried loading the disk into one of the other old drives and the new slim floppy i got errors

as i promised these drives for free to members i dont think its fair on you to send them as you creating a disk on a pc might not work and would be a waste of postal money on your part and wastage of both our times youy can get them realigned by a floppy repairers but its cheaper to buy a nos slim floppy for £5-10 and a slim floppy adapter and do the mods yourself

of get a hxc as they work if you have no scsi

if you have scsi i do recommend a cf scsi card drive either a pcd-47 pcd-50 pcd-60 or a acard 7720uw and a hpt swap drive as it loads fast and 35 banks at hand

Re: [emax] old emax drives

2014-02-08 by Wind O'Neal

I just bought a NEW Sony MPF920-E and switched the ID # by breaking off the 0 Ohm resistor and bridging the SEL 0 jumper (as this one has no switch). By the way this is as technical as I know how to talk! So this did not work for me.

My old drive usually worked (only every once in a while would it say DISC ERROR or something like that). The reason I bought a new floppy drive (for $10) was because I was told on this list serve that my HD would cycle off at the startup because it needed to use the FLOPPY to read the OS. Or something like that. I never understood the startup order or anything.

So I am back at not being able to either startup (it checks SCSI 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and repeats but never finds FLOPPY, I think), nor access my 80MB Apple HD. When seeking help before, I was advised my OS is corrupted and needs new EPROM or something.

Any suggestions? Sorry I'm not very technically minded!

Sony MPF920-E 1.44MB Internal 3.5-Inch Floppy Drive

On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:46 PM, <jammie.emma@....uk> wrote:

i had several old emax drives i have been testing them over the last few weeks and can confirm that all have misaligment issues

i tested each one with disk written from a new slim floppy in one emax machine then loaded it into a test machine with each floppy drive and all failed to load the new disk

so i did more experiments by formatting the drives in the emu with the old drives and they formated the disk and would load from that drive but when i tried loading the disk into one of the other old drives and the new slim floppy i got errors

as i promised these drives for free to members i dont think its fair on you to send them as you creating a disk on a pc might not work and would be a waste of postal money on your part and wastage of both our times youy can get them realigned by a floppy repairers but its cheaper to buy a nos slim floppy for £5-10 and a slim floppy adapter and do the mods yourself

of get a hxc as they work if you have no scsi

if you have scsi i do recommend a cf scsi card drive either a pcd-47 pcd-50 pcd-60 or a acard 7720uw and a hpt swap drive as it loads fast and 35 banks at hand

Re: [emax] old emax drives

2014-02-09 by Ted Summers

startup sequence is like an old PC….

Floppy seek first- find floppy with OS then boot.

No floppy, do HD seek- find OS, boot.

If your OS is corrupt on the hard drive (equivalent to when a PC says "Missing Operating System"), then you have to reload the OS onto the drive.

You would need a good floppy with OS to boot from and write it to the HD.

I have seen this on Emax when the Hard Drive is going bad...

You shouldn't need a new EPROM.

If you had a bad EPROM, I would think it wouldn't even do the SCSI seek 1through 7

Just my .02

-Ted

On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Wind O'Neal wrote:

Any suggestions? Sorry I'm not very technically minded!

Sony MPF920-E 1.44MB Internal 3.5-Inch Floppy Drive

On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:46 PM, <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

i had several old emax drives i have been testing them over the last few weeks and can confirm that all have misaligment issues

i tested each one with disk written from a new slim floppy in one emax machine then loaded it into a test machine with each floppy drive and all failed to load the new disk

so i did more experiments by formatting the drives in the emu with the old drives and they formated the disk and would load from that drive but when i tried loading the disk into one of the other old drives and the new slim floppy i got errors

as i promised these drives for free to members i dont think its fair on you to send them as you creating a disk on a pc might not work and would be a waste of postal money on your part and wastage of both our times youy can get them realigned by a floppy repairers but its cheaper to buy a nos slim floppy for £5-10 and a slim floppy adapter and do the mods yourself

of get a hxc as they work if you have no scsi

if you have scsi i do recommend a cf scsi card drive either a pcd-47 pcd-50 pcd-60 or a acard 7720uw and a hpt swap drive as it loads fast and 35 banks at hand

Re: [emax] old emax drives

2014-02-09 by sanctifiedone@...

THANKS, Ted! Looks like I'm getting another Floppy Drive to try out.

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From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...> 
To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:21:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [emax] old emax drives 

startup sequence is like an old PC…. 

Floppy seek first- find floppy with OS then boot. 
No floppy, do HD seek- find OS, boot. 

If your OS is corrupt on the hard drive (equivalent to when a PC says "Missing Operating System"), then you have to reload the OS onto the drive. 
You would need a good floppy with OS to boot from and write it to the HD. 

I have seen this on Emax when the Hard Drive is going bad... 

You shouldn't need a new EPROM. 
If you had a bad EPROM, I would think it wouldn't even do the SCSI seek 1through 7 

Just my .02 

-Ted 

On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Wind O'Neal wrote: 

I just bought a NEW Sony MPF920-E and switched the ID # by breaking off the 0 Ohm resistor and bridging the SEL 0 jumper (as this one has no switch). By the way this is as technical as I know how to talk! So this did not work for me. 

My old drive usually worked (only every once in a while would it say DISC ERROR or something like that). The reason I bought a new floppy drive (for $10) was because I was told on this list serve that my HD would cycle off at the startup because it needed to use the FLOPPY to read the OS. Or something like that. I never understood the startup order or anything. 

So I am back at not being able to either startup (it checks SCSI 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and repeats but never finds FLOPPY, I think), nor access my 80MB Apple HD. When seeking help before, I was advised my OS is corrupted and needs new EPROM or something. 

Any suggestions? Sorry I'm not very technically minded! 

Sony MPF920-E 1.44MB Internal 3.5-Inch Floppy Drive 

On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:46 PM, < jammie.emma@... > wrote: 

i had several old emax drives i have been testing them over the last few weeks and can confirm that all have misaligment issues 

i tested each one with disk written from a new slim floppy in one emax machine then loaded it into a test machine with each floppy drive and all failed to load the new disk 

so i did more experiments by formatting the drives in the emu with the old drives and they formated the disk and would load from that drive but when i tried loading the disk into one of the other old drives and the new slim floppy i got errors 

as i promised these drives for free to members i dont think its fair on you to send them as you creating a disk on a pc might not work and would be a waste of postal money on your part and wastage of both our times youy can get them realigned by a floppy repairers but its cheaper to buy a nos slim floppy for £5-10 and a slim floppy adapter and do the mods yourself 

of get a hxc as they work if you have no scsi 

if you have scsi i do recommend a cf scsi card drive either a pcd-47 pcd-50 pcd-60 or a acard 7720uw and a hpt swap drive as it loads fast and 35 banks at hand

RE: old emax drives

2014-02-09 by niklas.ehrlin@...

Ok, I totally understand, good work in checking them all. I will continue my research and see which road to walk down.

Thanks again for your help and advice!

SV: [emax] RE: old emax drives

2014-02-09 by KW

this adress http://www.silveriafamily.com is not working by the way!




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 Från: "niklas.ehrlin@..." <niklas.ehrlin@...>
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Skickat: söndag, 9 februari 2014 11:49
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Ok, I totally understand, good work in checking them all. I will continue my research and see which road to walk down. 
Thanks again for your help and advice!

Re: SV: [emax] RE: old emax drives

2014-02-10 by John Joseph Silveria II

It's not and hasn't been for a long time. I tried taking it off our 
emails, but for some reason the setting changes didn't take.

When I started with the group that became this list some 20 years ago my 
site had all the info I had culled from our days of using FTP and 
Usenetserver as our main way of coordinating. It also had a lot of 
information I had gathered because I lived near E-MU HQ in Scotts Valley 
and had an inside contact who was kind enough to share a lot fo info and 
tools with me. Once Creative Labs took over I was no longer able to get 
any help from them because they dropped the Emax line from there own 
support department.

EmulatorArchive and my site had pretty similar information, his was much 
more tech savvy than mine was, as I wasn't a tech person, I was a 
working musician, mine had more tips and tricks for using it's features, 
like SE.

Along the way I had started a blog using early versions of Movable Type 
and subsequently got Comment bombed to such a degree that the comments 
section became too difficult to manage, and filled with very dangerous 
urls, so my web hosting company turned it off. I have yet to go in and 
just remove my personal site including the blog and just have it be the 
Emax and Emax II User's Group website for posterity sake.

Truth is there are people in this group that are far more knowledgeable 
and most of the information through the old site can be found here, with 
much better support.

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On 2/9/2014 6:55 AM, KW wrote:
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> *Fr�n:* "niklas.ehrlin@..." <niklas.ehrlin@...>
> *Till:* emax@yahoogroups.com
> *Skickat:* s�ndag, 9 februari 2014 11:49
> *�mne:* [emax] RE: old emax drives
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> Ok, I totally understand, good work in checking them all. I will 
> continue my research and see which road to walk down.
> Thanks again for your help and advice!
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