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SE upgrade failure

2004-05-28 by franceslengel

Hey All
I've spent a good 4 hours wrestling with the EMX program and Seup.em1 
image to no avail. I first tried the emx program on a Windows 3.1 
MSdos system and I seemed to have no luck writing the image to a 
formatted emax disk (it didn't like the pre-formated emax disks at 
all) but then suddenly third try lucky it wrote it. I then tried it 
on my EMax and nothing but garbled text happened? 
So, I tried again but this time with a MSdos 6.2 bootdisk on my W2k 
machine and still no luck with actually getting emx to either format 
emax disks  (it seems to get up to 99% and then fail) or write the 
image onto pre-formated emax disks. Don't know whats going wrong? 
I've read all the instructions people have posted - the only thing I 
haven't done is make a FAT partition in my PC and try booting MSDOS 
from that?
Any comments appreciated,
Thanks
Luke
(Glasgow)

Re: SE upgrade failure

2004-05-28 by soundcrafter

> I've read all the instructions people have posted - the only thing 
I 
> haven't done is make a FAT partition in my PC and try booting MSDOS 
> from that?

That seems to be the only solution... I installed a second HD and set 
it up with DOS 6.22, and it's working like a champ...

Re: SE upgrade failure

2004-05-28 by carsten_ender

Hi Luke,

you have to use the Emaxutil programme not EMX.

Carsten

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "franceslengel" <luke.fowler@n...> 
wrote:
> Hey All
> I've spent a good 4 hours wrestling with the EMX program and 
Seup.em1 
> image to no avail. I first tried the emx program on a Windows 3.1 
> MSdos system and I seemed to have no luck writing the image to a 
> formatted emax disk (it didn't like the pre-formated emax disks at 
> all) but then suddenly third try lucky it wrote it. I then tried 
it 
> on my EMax and nothing but garbled text happened? 
> So, I tried again but this time with a MSdos 6.2 bootdisk on my 
W2k 
> machine and still no luck with actually getting emx to either 
format 
> emax disks  (it seems to get up to 99% and then fail) or write the 
> image onto pre-formated emax disks. Don't know whats going wrong? 
> I've read all the instructions people have posted - the only thing 
I 
> haven't done is make a FAT partition in my PC and try booting 
MSDOS 
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> from that?
> Any comments appreciated,
> Thanks
> Luke
> (Glasgow)

Re: SE upgrade failure

2004-05-28 by franceslengel

Thanks all,
I did use the Emaxutil prog. that Carsten upped to the files list 
from the DOS portal on my mums old windows 3.1 machine but to no 
avail - the drive was truelly repulsed by EMAX formatted disks and 
refused to write the SEUP.EM1 image to them.
Maybe my only solution is to make a FAT partition and use DOSboot 
disk here on my 2k station BUT the only thing Im wondering is 

1)do you have to install Win98/95 and if you do...
2)how would the PC know its in that partition if you have to reboot 
to DOS from Windows (my 2k machine boots into a menue that gives you 
a choice of what OS to boot up?) 

I will crack this mutha!!!

yours confusingly,
Luke

  



> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "franceslengel" <luke.fowler@n...> 
> wrote:
> > Hey All
> > I've spent a good 4 hours wrestling with the EMX program and 
> Seup.em1 
> > image to no avail. I first tried the emx program on a Windows 3.1 
> > MSdos system and I seemed to have no luck writing the image to a 
> > formatted emax disk (it didn't like the pre-formated emax disks 
at 
> > all) but then suddenly third try lucky it wrote it. I then tried 
> it 
> > on my EMax and nothing but garbled text happened? 
> > So, I tried again but this time with a MSdos 6.2 bootdisk on my 
> W2k 
> > machine and still no luck with actually getting emx to either 
> format 
> > emax disks  (it seems to get up to 99% and then fail) or write 
the 
> > image onto pre-formated emax disks. Don't know whats going wrong? 
> > I've read all the instructions people have posted - the only 
thing 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I 
> > haven't done is make a FAT partition in my PC and try booting 
> MSDOS 
> > from that?
> > Any comments appreciated,
> > Thanks
> > Luke
> > (Glasgow)

Re: [emax] Re: SE upgrade failure

2004-05-28 by John Silveria

Just want to clarify a few things. 

You clearly state in your first email that you used EMX which is not the same thing as 
Emaxutil. The problems you describe are the most common problems when using EMX.

 I'd start by going to the files section and redownloading the emaxutil.zip (17k) uploaded 
by carsten_ender and the seup.em1 file. Make sure it's not the emx.zip file uploaded by 
me. Then retry everything on the Windows 3.1 machine but in DOS only.

Follow these (edited) instructions given by someone on list who completed the upgrade. 

!! REMEMBER, EMAXUTIL *REQUIRES* DOS OPERATING SYSTEM TO WORK !!
!! DO NOT USE EMAXUTIL IN WINDOWS OR WINDOWS "DOS" BOX !!
!! IT MAY "APPEAR" TO WORK IN WINDOWS, BUT FILES MAY BE CORRUPT !!

I copied the files "emaxutil.exe" and "seup.em1" to the hard drive.  These
are now the only two files on the entire hard drive.

[IMPORTANT NOTE: You must first format a 720k Double Density diskette in
your Emax before writing the image file to it.  I tried writing to a DOS
formatted 720k Double Density diskette and Emax would only respond with
"Disk Error".  I then formatted a floppy in the Emax, then proceeded to
use that diskette with Emaxutil, and it worked great.]

Booted the computer using MS-DOS 6.22.  Changed to the hard drive (drive C:)  
inserted the blank Emax-formatted diskette. I ran emaxutil.exe, and had it do it's writing 
to the floppy diskettein drive A:.  This took a couple of minutes but not too long.  

When Emaxutil was finished, I removed the floppy diskette from my 
computer and inserted it into the Emax.  I turned on the Emax and it began
loading the bank.  After loading everything, it displayed a message saying
something like "SE Update Complete, Please Reboot"

I turned the Emax off, then back on after a few seconds.  It loaded 
the bank on the diskette.  Everything appears to work great.  The 
software version my Emax reports is now "Emax SE rev 1.1"

Thanks Carsten for providing the update image.  If anyone else has 
success or failure, please post your results in this forum.  I'm 
curious to see how others get along.

On 28 May 2004 at 10:47, franceslengel spoke unto me:

> Thanks all,
> I did use the Emaxutil prog. that Carsten upped to the files list from
> the DOS portal on my mums old windows 3.1 machine but to no avail -
> the drive was truelly repulsed by EMAX formatted disks and refused to
> write the SEUP.EM1 image to them. Maybe my only solution is to make a
> FAT partition and use DOSboot disk here on my 2k station BUT the only
> thing Im wondering is 
> 
> 1)do you have to install Win98/95 and if you do...
> 2)how would the PC know its in that partition if you have to reboot to
> DOS from Windows (my 2k machine boots into a menue that gives you a
> choice of what OS to boot up?) 
> 
> I will crack this mutha!!!
> 
> yours confusingly,
> Luke
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "franceslengel" <luke.fowler@n...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hey All
> > > I've spent a good 4 hours wrestling with the EMX program and 
> > Seup.em1 
> > > image to no avail. I first tried the emx program on a Windows 3.1
> > > MSdos system and I seemed to have no luck writing the image to a
> > > formatted emax disk (it didn't like the pre-formated emax disks 
> at 
> > > all) but then suddenly third try lucky it wrote it. I then tried 
> > it 
> > > on my EMax and nothing but garbled text happened? 
> > > So, I tried again but this time with a MSdos 6.2 bootdisk on my 
> > W2k 
> > > machine and still no luck with actually getting emx to either 
> > format 
> > > emax disks  (it seems to get up to 99% and then fail) or write 
> the 
> > > image onto pre-formated emax disks. Don't know whats going wrong?
> > > I've read all the instructions people have posted - the only 
> thing 
> > I 
> > > haven't done is make a FAT partition in my PC and try booting 
> > MSDOS 
> > > from that?
> > > Any comments appreciated,
> > > Thanks
> > > Luke
> > > (Glasgow)
> 
> 
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