Emax

Hey dudes,

Using newest version of the program tried a bunch of floppies today
and it seems like there is something going wrong


I am writing Images / Banks to emax formatte floppies, also formatted
some using the tool but whatever i do it results in Disk Error on the
Emax. I use "brand new" floppies and when i format them on the emax or
copy a disk they work fine, only when writing to them from EMXP i get
errors


I am using the emax floppy driver, and yes i made sure the correct
driver is installed, its version 0.90 in device manager.

no idea what it is

I also made sure i set the target format to EMAX I. cant think of any
more, spent 3 hours trying to figure this one, somone help please?

Are the disks you are using DS/HD. Emax uses DS/DD- so you cover the  
hole (not the write protect, the other one) and this makes the disk  
not be HD anymore.... 720k instead of 1.44MB


Just a thought,
Ted

On Feb 12, 2007, at 5:16 PM, dawid_marciniak wrote:

> Hey dudes,
>
> Using newest version of the program tried a bunch of floppies today
> and it seems like there is something going wrong
>
> I am writing Images / Banks to emax formatte floppies, also formatted
> some using the tool but whatever i do it results in Disk Error on the
> Emax. I use "brand new" floppies and when i format them on the emax or
> copy a disk they work fine, only when writing to them from EMXP i get
> errors
>
> I am using the emax floppy driver, and yes i made sure the correct
> driver is installed, its version 0.90 in device manager.
>
> no idea what it is
>
> I also made sure i set the target format to EMAX I. cant think of any
> more, spent 3 hours trying to figure this one, somone help please?
>
>
> 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Could be that your Emax FD is out of alignment and so it can read disks
written by itself, but isn't calibrated properly so it can't read disks
written by other floppy drives.

Just another thought...

On 2/12/07, dawid_marciniak <dawid.marciniak@...> wrote:
>
>   Hey dudes,
>
> Using newest version of the program tried a bunch of floppies today
> and it seems like there is something going wrong
>
> I am writing Images / Banks to emax formatte floppies, also formatted
> some using the tool but whatever i do it results in Disk Error on the
> Emax. I use "brand new" floppies and when i format them on the emax or
> copy a disk they work fine, only when writing to them from EMXP i get
> errors
>
> I am using the emax floppy driver, and yes i made sure the correct
> driver is installed, its version 0.90 in device manager.
>
> no idea what it is
>
> I also made sure i set the target format to EMAX I. cant think of any
> more, spent 3 hours trying to figure this one, somone help please?
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi thanks for help

I am using DS/DD Disks, KAO MF2DD disks,

The emax floppy is brand new, i picked it up from Route66 studuios,
its a teac


Any ideas how i can get it alligned? Would a new floppy drive be dis
alligned?

How can i fix this

Regards,
Dawid


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sotnick" <sotnickd@...> wrote:

>
> Could be that your Emax FD is out of alignment and so it can read disks
> written by itself, but isn't calibrated properly so it can't read disks
> written by other floppy drives.
> 
> Just another thought...
> 
> On 2/12/07, dawid_marciniak <dawid.marciniak@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Hey dudes,
> >
> > Using newest version of the program tried a bunch of floppies today
> > and it seems like there is something going wrong
> >
> > I am writing Images / Banks to emax formatte floppies, also formatted
> > some using the tool but whatever i do it results in Disk Error on the
> > Emax. I use "brand new" floppies and when i format them on the emax or
> > copy a disk they work fine, only when writing to them from EMXP i get
> > errors
> >
> > I am using the emax floppy driver, and yes i made sure the correct
> > driver is installed, its version 0.90 in device manager.
> >
> > no idea what it is
> >
> > I also made sure i set the target format to EMAX I. cant think of any
> > more, spent 3 hours trying to figure this one, somone help please?
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hey GUYS


I have noticed that When i load up Other floppies from All sorts of
other sources my EMAX I reads them fine. I tried my old emax which i
created years ago, Original Emax Sample disks, all work fine, Only
when i try to write it from EMXP it gives me that error/./.

Could it be the floppydrive in my PC??? Its brand new Sony i picked up
of amazon. Maybe try the Omni Driver? Maybe different floppy?

Two possible causes:

1/ Important calibration differences. This could either be caused by 
the drive in the Emax or by the drive in the PC. In your case most 
probably the one in your PC.

2/ You should use the OmniFlop driver. The Emxp Emax driver is too 
simple to be 100% reliable really... it's just a kind of emergency 
driver if for some reason you really don't want to use OmniFlop.
The Emxp Emax driver uses exactly the same disk parameters as the old 
EMX does, but the OmniFlop driver uses other parameters which are more 
correct. In fact, there's even a small incompatibility between the 
FORMAT parameters used by EMXP (with both drivers) and the READ/WRITE 
parameters used specifically in the Emxp driver. So relying on that 
driver can cause problems as soon as there are small calibration 
problems with the drive.
I know, because I have had problems myself :-)

Maybe I will change the Emxp driver in the next version of EMXP, but 
most probably I will simply not include it anymore, and remove any 
reference to it from the manual.

Everyone should use OmniFlop !
Perhaps in the future I will also include support for even another 
(free) driver available out there. That driver might be helpful for 
those people who keep having problems with formatting disks in EMXP, 
because I think it allows a high degree of parametrisation. We'll see.
It's definitely not my first priority.

Anyway: my advice is to try the OmniFlop driver first. If that doesn't 
work, you should have a look to your PC floppy drive, since up to now 
no one seems to have had R/W problems with the OmniFlop driver.

By the way: can EMXP READ those "good" disks ?

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@...> 
wrote:

>
> Hey GUYS
> 
> 
> I have noticed that When i load up Other floppies from All sorts of
> other sources my EMAX I reads them fine. I tried my old emax which i
> created years ago, Original Emax Sample disks, all work fine, Only
> when i try to write it from EMXP it gives me that error/./.
> 
> Could it be the floppydrive in my PC??? Its brand new Sony i picked up
> of amazon. Maybe try the Omni Driver? Maybe different floppy?
>

///E-Synthesist

THANK YOU SOO MUCH.

When i saw the menu of EMXPi was going crazy, All these options, I
created a report with wavs and i was asking myself how that is
possible!! I had 12bit 28.xx khz files on my drive all of a sudden.
Its AMAZING< the program is great i love the menu too

I was soo frustrated to find out that its not accepting the didks i
wrote, I will swap the driver in the morning before work!!! hope that
will make it work


Have you used EMXP with SCSI card readers and Compact Flash ?? That
would be bananas!! I am thinking of getting another EMAX I rack, and
maybe a EMAX 2 !! Hyped up

Thanks for all your hard work !



--- In emax@...m, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:

>
> Two possible causes:
> 
> 1/ Important calibration differences. This could either be caused by 
> the drive in the Emax or by the drive in the PC. In your case most 
> probably the one in your PC.
> 
> 2/ You should use the OmniFlop driver. The Emxp Emax driver is too 
> simple to be 100% reliable really... it's just a kind of emergency 
> driver if for some reason you really don't want to use OmniFlop.
> The Emxp Emax driver uses exactly the same disk parameters as the old 
> EMX does, but the OmniFlop driver uses other parameters which are more 
> correct. In fact, there's even a small incompatibility between the 
> FORMAT parameters used by EMXP (with both drivers) and the READ/WRITE 
> parameters used specifically in the Emxp driver. So relying on that 
> driver can cause problems as soon as there are small calibration 
> problems with the drive.
> I know, because I have had problems myself :-)
> 
> Maybe I will change the Emxp driver in the next version of EMXP, but 
> most probably I will simply not include it anymore, and remove any 
> reference to it from the manual.
> 
> Everyone should use OmniFlop !
> Perhaps in the future I will also include support for even another 
> (free) driver available out there. That driver might be helpful for 
> those people who keep having problems with formatting disks in EMXP, 
> because I think it allows a high degree of parametrisation. We'll see.
> It's definitely not my first priority.
> 
> Anyway: my advice is to try the OmniFlop driver first. If that doesn't 
> work, you should have a look to your PC floppy drive, since up to now 
> no one seems to have had R/W problems with the OmniFlop driver.
> 
> By the way: can EMXP READ those "good" disks ?
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey GUYS
> > 
> > 
> > I have noticed that When i load up Other floppies from All sorts of
> > other sources my EMAX I reads them fine. I tried my old emax which i
> > created years ago, Original Emax Sample disks, all work fine, Only
> > when i try to write it from EMXP it gives me that error/./.
> > 
> > Could it be the floppydrive in my PC??? Its brand new Sony i picked up
> > of amazon. Maybe try the Omni Driver? Maybe different floppy?
> >
>

Nice to hear that you like it.

About Compact Flash: I've not tested it, but I tried to make the I/O 
logic of EMXP as generic as possible. So my guess is that it should 
work (both read & write). Maybe someone else on this board can 
confirm this ?

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@...> 
wrote:
>
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> THANK YOU SOO MUCH.
> 
> When i saw the menu of EMXPi was going crazy, All these options, I
> created a report with wavs and i was asking myself how that is
> possible!! I had 12bit 28.xx khz files on my drive all of a sudden.
> Its AMAZING< the program is great i love the menu too
> 
> I was soo frustrated to find out that its not accepting the didks i
> wrote, I will swap the driver in the morning before work!!! hope 
that
> will make it work
> 
> 
> Have you used EMXP with SCSI card readers and Compact Flash ?? That
> would be bananas!! I am thinking of getting another EMAX I rack, and
> maybe a EMAX 2 !! Hyped up
> 
> Thanks for all your hard work !
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > Two possible causes:
> > 
> > 1/ Important calibration differences. This could either be caused 
by 
> > the drive in the Emax or by the drive in the PC. In your case 
most 
> > probably the one in your PC.
> > 
> > 2/ You should use the OmniFlop driver. The Emxp Emax driver is 
too 
> > simple to be 100% reliable really... it's just a kind of 
emergency 
> > driver if for some reason you really don't want to use OmniFlop.
> > The Emxp Emax driver uses exactly the same disk parameters as the 
old 
> > EMX does, but the OmniFlop driver uses other parameters which are 
more 
> > correct. In fact, there's even a small incompatibility between 
the 
> > FORMAT parameters used by EMXP (with both drivers) and the 
READ/WRITE 
> > parameters used specifically in the Emxp driver. So relying on 
that 
> > driver can cause problems as soon as there are small calibration 
> > problems with the drive.
> > I know, because I have had problems myself :-)
> > 
> > Maybe I will change the Emxp driver in the next version of EMXP, 
but 
> > most probably I will simply not include it anymore, and remove 
any 
> > reference to it from the manual.
> > 
> > Everyone should use OmniFlop !
> > Perhaps in the future I will also include support for even 
another 
> > (free) driver available out there. That driver might be helpful 
for 
> > those people who keep having problems with formatting disks in 
EMXP, 
> > because I think it allows a high degree of parametrisation. We'll 
see.
> > It's definitely not my first priority.
> > 
> > Anyway: my advice is to try the OmniFlop driver first. If that 
doesn't 
> > work, you should have a look to your PC floppy drive, since up to 
now 
> > no one seems to have had R/W problems with the OmniFlop driver.
> > 
> > By the way: can EMXP READ those "good" disks ?
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey GUYS
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have noticed that When i load up Other floppies from All 
sorts of
> > > other sources my EMAX I reads them fine. I tried my old emax 
which i
> > > created years ago, Original Emax Sample disks, all work fine, 
Only
> > > when i try to write it from EMXP it gives me that error/./.
> > > 
> > > Could it be the floppydrive in my PC??? Its brand new Sony i 
picked up

> > > of amazon. Maybe try the Omni Driver? Maybe different floppy?
> > >
> >
>

\Yes lovin it, Im actually tring to get this to work now, 

No Luck Again!??>:(

Now with the omnifloppy driver installed, yes it says james watson in
driver info. Also done the additional registration as suggested by manual/

Tried 3 different types of DD floppies to make sure its not the floppy
that i am using.

Formatted the disk using EMXP, Copied OS and tried to boot from disk.
With all 3 it resulted in Timeout Error! - Disk Error!


Any ideas? My floppy drive is a Teac from Studio66 (recent buy) and
the PC floppy is a sony from amazon, standard drive


I can read all kinds of floppys on the emax, even created on older
devices with original mitsubishi disk drive...



Really keen on Compact Flash, this is upsetting! nice program but cant
make use of it at all


Thx for help

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:

>
> Nice to hear that you like it.
> 
> About Compact Flash: I've not tested it, but I tried to make the I/O 
> logic of EMXP as generic as possible. So my guess is that it should 
> work (both read & write). Maybe someone else on this board can 
> confirm this ?
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > ///E-Synthesist
> > 
> > THANK YOU SOO MUCH.
> > 
> > When i saw the menu of EMXPi was going crazy, All these options, I
> > created a report with wavs and i was asking myself how that is
> > possible!! I had 12bit 28.xx khz files on my drive all of a sudden.
> > Its AMAZING< the program is great i love the menu too
> > 
> > I was soo frustrated to find out that its not accepting the didks i
> > wrote, I will swap the driver in the morning before work!!! hope 
> that
> > will make it work
> > 
> > 
> > Have you used EMXP with SCSI card readers and Compact Flash ?? That
> > would be bananas!! I am thinking of getting another EMAX I rack, and
> > maybe a EMAX 2 !! Hyped up
> > 
> > Thanks for all your hard work !
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Two possible causes:
> > > 
> > > 1/ Important calibration differences. This could either be caused 
> by 
> > > the drive in the Emax or by the drive in the PC. In your case 
> most 
> > > probably the one in your PC.
> > > 
> > > 2/ You should use the OmniFlop driver. The Emxp Emax driver is 
> too 
> > > simple to be 100% reliable really... it's just a kind of 
> emergency 
> > > driver if for some reason you really don't want to use OmniFlop.
> > > The Emxp Emax driver uses exactly the same disk parameters as the 
> old 
> > > EMX does, but the OmniFlop driver uses other parameters which are 
> more 
> > > correct. In fact, there's even a small incompatibility between 
> the 
> > > FORMAT parameters used by EMXP (with both drivers) and the 
> READ/WRITE 
> > > parameters used specifically in the Emxp driver. So relying on 
> that 
> > > driver can cause problems as soon as there are small calibration 
> > > problems with the drive.
> > > I know, because I have had problems myself :-)
> > > 
> > > Maybe I will change the Emxp driver in the next version of EMXP, 
> but 
> > > most probably I will simply not include it anymore, and remove 
> any 
> > > reference to it from the manual.
> > > 
> > > Everyone should use OmniFlop !
> > > Perhaps in the future I will also include support for even 
> another 
> > > (free) driver available out there. That driver might be helpful 
> for 
> > > those people who keep having problems with formatting disks in 
> EMXP, 
> > > because I think it allows a high degree of parametrisation. We'll 
> see.
> > > It's definitely not my first priority.
> > > 
> > > Anyway: my advice is to try the OmniFlop driver first. If that 
> doesn't 
> > > work, you should have a look to your PC floppy drive, since up to 
> now 
> > > no one seems to have had R/W problems with the OmniFlop driver.
> > > 
> > > By the way: can EMXP READ those "good" disks ?
> > > 
> > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > 
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey GUYS
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I have noticed that When i load up Other floppies from All 
> sorts of
> > > > other sources my EMAX I reads them fine. I tried my old emax 
> which i
> > > > created years ago, Original Emax Sample disks, all work fine, 
> Only
> > > > when i try to write it from EMXP it gives me that error/./.
> > > > 
> > > > Could it be the floppydrive in my PC??? Its brand new Sony i 
> picked up
> > > > of amazon. Maybe try the Omni Driver? Maybe different floppy?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Mmm... I don't think I can help you further here.
Probably a calibration problem.
You can try another PC of course (from a friend or so) in order to 
detect whether it is the PC drive or the Emax drive.

FYI: as soon as EMXP starts reading/writing a floppy, this means the 
driver has been installed correctly. If not EMXP would generate an 
error. So you can assume that the driver is installed correctly.

I hope you'll find the problem...

///E-Synthesist


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@...> 
wrote:
>
> \Yes lovin it, Im actually tring to get this to work now, 
> 
> No Luck Again!??>:(
> 
> Now with the omnifloppy driver installed, yes it says james watson 
in
> driver info. Also done the additional registration as suggested by 
manual/
> 
> Tried 3 different types of DD floppies to make sure its not the 
floppy
> that i am using.
> 
> Formatted the disk using EMXP, Copied OS and tried to boot from 
disk.
> With all 3 it resulted in Timeout Error! - Disk Error!
> 
> 
> Any ideas? My floppy drive is a Teac from Studio66 (recent buy) and
> the PC floppy is a sony from amazon, standard drive
> 
> 
> I can read all kinds of floppys on the emax, even created on older
> devices with original mitsubishi disk drive...
> 
> 
> 
> Really keen on Compact Flash, this is upsetting! nice program but 
cant
> make use of it at all
> 
> 
> Thx for help
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > Nice to hear that you like it.
> > 
> > About Compact Flash: I've not tested it, but I tried to make the 
I/O 
> > logic of EMXP as generic as possible. So my guess is that it 
should 
> > work (both read & write). Maybe someone else on this board can 
> > confirm this ?
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" <dawid.marciniak@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > 
> > > THANK YOU SOO MUCH.
> > > 
> > > When i saw the menu of EMXPi was going crazy, All these 
options, I
> > > created a report with wavs and i was asking myself how that is
> > > possible!! I had 12bit 28.xx khz files on my drive all of a 
sudden.
> > > Its AMAZING< the program is great i love the menu too
> > > 
> > > I was soo frustrated to find out that its not accepting the 
didks i
> > > wrote, I will swap the driver in the morning before work!!! 
hope 
> > that
> > > will make it work
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Have you used EMXP with SCSI card readers and Compact Flash ?? 
That
> > > would be bananas!! I am thinking of getting another EMAX I 
rack, and
> > > maybe a EMAX 2 !! Hyped up
> > > 
> > > Thanks for all your hard work !
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Two possible causes:
> > > > 
> > > > 1/ Important calibration differences. This could either be 
caused 
> > by 
> > > > the drive in the Emax or by the drive in the PC. In your case 
> > most 
> > > > probably the one in your PC.
> > > > 
> > > > 2/ You should use the OmniFlop driver. The Emxp Emax driver 
is 
> > too 
> > > > simple to be 100% reliable really... it's just a kind of 
> > emergency 
> > > > driver if for some reason you really don't want to use 
OmniFlop.
> > > > The Emxp Emax driver uses exactly the same disk parameters as 
the 
> > old 
> > > > EMX does, but the OmniFlop driver uses other parameters which 
are 
> > more 
> > > > correct. In fact, there's even a small incompatibility 
between 
> > the 
> > > > FORMAT parameters used by EMXP (with both drivers) and the 
> > READ/WRITE 
> > > > parameters used specifically in the Emxp driver. So relying 
on 
> > that 
> > > > driver can cause problems as soon as there are small 
calibration 
> > > > problems with the drive.
> > > > I know, because I have had problems myself :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe I will change the Emxp driver in the next version of 
EMXP, 
> > but 
> > > > most probably I will simply not include it anymore, and 
remove 
> > any 
> > > > reference to it from the manual.
> > > > 
> > > > Everyone should use OmniFlop !
> > > > Perhaps in the future I will also include support for even 
> > another 
> > > > (free) driver available out there. That driver might be 
helpful 
> > for 
> > > > those people who keep having problems with formatting disks 
in 
> > EMXP, 
> > > > because I think it allows a high degree of parametrisation. 
We'll 
> > see.
> > > > It's definitely not my first priority.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyway: my advice is to try the OmniFlop driver first. If 
that 
> > doesn't 
> > > > work, you should have a look to your PC floppy drive, since 
up to 
> > now 
> > > > no one seems to have had R/W problems with the OmniFlop 
driver.
> > > > 
> > > > By the way: can EMXP READ those "good" disks ?
> > > > 
> > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dawid_marciniak" 
<dawid.marciniak@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey GUYS
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have noticed that When i load up Other floppies from All 
> > sorts of
> > > > > other sources my EMAX I reads them fine. I tried my old 
emax 
> > which i
> > > > > created years ago, Original Emax Sample disks, all work 
fine, 
> > Only
> > > > > when i try to write it from EMXP it gives me that error/./.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Could it be the floppydrive in my PC??? Its brand new Sony 
i 
> > picked up
> > > > > of amazon. Maybe try the Omni Driver? Maybe different 
floppy?

> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>