Emax

HI,

I would like to know what the best way of chopping a sample is on the Emax 1? 
if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different pieces, would i have to sample it again 
once i have truncated the first bit ?

Thanx 

Marc

No, you can copy the voice before you truncate it. If you copy the preset to
another preset before you make the truncation, the Emax will say "Used
Elsewhere. Make a copy first?" to which you answer yes, and then you'll
still have the original to work with.

You can also just copy the voice to the same preset on a different key
(depending on available RAM).

It's a pain, but for the mid-late 80s (and without a Mac running Sound
Designer) it was all you could do.

-Dave

On 11/6/07, marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
>
>   HI,
>
> I would like to know what the best way of chopping a sample is on the Emax
> 1?
> if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different pieces, would i have
> to sample it again
> once i have truncated the first bit ?
>
> Thanx
>
> Marc
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

thanx for your help dave, i will try that later on.

coming from an Akai background (using Akai samplers since 95) its a bit difficult to 
understand the Emax operating system sometimes. 

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sotnick" <sotnickd@...> wrote:

>
> No, you can copy the voice before you truncate it. If you copy the preset to
> another preset before you make the truncation, the Emax will say "Used
> Elsewhere. Make a copy first?" to which you answer yes, and then you'll
> still have the original to work with.
> 
> You can also just copy the voice to the same preset on a different key
> (depending on available RAM).
> 
> It's a pain, but for the mid-late 80s (and without a Mac running Sound
> Designer) it was all you could do.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> On 11/6/07, marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> >
> >   HI,
> >
> > I would like to know what the best way of chopping a sample is on the Emax
> > 1?
> > if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different pieces, would i have
> > to sample it again
> > once i have truncated the first bit ?
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, i must admit to some problems in that respect too.

I have just bought an emax and i have some problems with the workflow.
Sometimes when i sample and then go to preset management to create a
new preset, i loose all the samples. Is it best to create a preset
first and then sample? The manual doesnt seem to be too helpful
explaining the best workflow for sampling.

i think for an akai user it's hard to understand the terminology of
voices compared to samples etc.

Any help very much welcomed!


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "marc" <marc_sps@...> wrote:
>
> thanx for your help dave, i will try that later on.
> 
> coming from an Akai background (using Akai samplers since 95) its a
bit difficult to 
> understand the Emax operating system sometimes. 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sotnick" <sotnickd@> wrote:
> >
> > No, you can copy the voice before you truncate it. If you copy the
preset to
> > another preset before you make the truncation, the Emax will say "Used
> > Elsewhere. Make a copy first?" to which you answer yes, and then
you'll
> > still have the original to work with.
> > 
> > You can also just copy the voice to the same preset on a different key
> > (depending on available RAM).
> > 
> > It's a pain, but for the mid-late 80s (and without a Mac running Sound
> > Designer) it was all you could do.
> > 
> > -Dave
> > 
> > On 11/6/07, marc <marc_sps@> wrote:
> > >
> > >   HI,
> > >
> > > I would like to know what the best way of chopping a sample is
on the Emax
> > > 1?
> > > if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different pieces,
would i have

> > > to sample it again
> > > once i have truncated the first bit ?
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I've found the best way to chop is using an old-school Mac
and Alchemy 3.0 with a custom made serial cable. Details
can be found here:

http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxEditors/emaxeditors.html

I use a Mac IIci with a Digidesign Audiomedia II sound
card. The sound card isn't needed but if you dont have one
you will have to audition your edits using the Macs
built-in 8-bit audio which works ok but doesnt integrate
well with the rest of the gear in my studio.

The coolest thing about Alchemy is that it supports a whole
slew of older samplers. You can sample on the EMAX , send
the sample over the serial cable to the mac , edit , save,
whatever then send it to another sampler, say an Akai S1100
- over SCSI or midi. It will also let you work the other
way around and translate / send samples to the EMAX from
another sampler.











--- marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:

> HI,
> 
> I would like to know what the best way of chopping a
> sample is on the Emax 1? 
> if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different
> pieces, would i have to sample it again 
> once i have truncated the first bit ?
> 
> Thanx 
> 
> Marc 
> 
>

i still have an old powerbook 145 in my basement somehwere :) 

would that work with alchemy ? t would be a pretty neat idea to edit the samples visually. i 
found that chopping short percussive stuff like basedrums is not easy without graphical 
editing :)... (too spoiled by the modern stuff hehe...)

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Mike Wolak <mikewolak@...> wrote:
>
> I've found the best way to chop is using an old-school Mac
> and Alchemy 3.0 with a custom made serial cable. Details
> can be found here:
> 
> 
http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxEditors/emaxeditors.htm
l

> 
> I use a Mac IIci with a Digidesign Audiomedia II sound
> card. The sound card isn't needed but if you dont have one
> you will have to audition your edits using the Macs
> built-in 8-bit audio which works ok but doesnt integrate
> well with the rest of the gear in my studio.
> 
> The coolest thing about Alchemy is that it supports a whole
> slew of older samplers. You can sample on the EMAX , send
> the sample over the serial cable to the mac , edit , save,
> whatever then send it to another sampler, say an Akai S1100
> - over SCSI or midi. It will also let you work the other
> way around and translate / send samples to the EMAX from
> another sampler.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> 
> > HI,
> > 
> > I would like to know what the best way of chopping a
> > sample is on the Emax 1? 
> > if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different
> > pieces, would i have to sample it again 
> > once i have truncated the first bit ?
> > 
> > Thanx 
> > 
> > Marc 
> > 
> >
>

hi

the best way to chop samples is using sound forge or recycle, and dump 
the samples via midi.

works great, and you can use 44.1khz samples!!!

cheers

chip

It might work, make sure you are running Mac OS 7.6.1 or
7.5, it doesn't seem to transfer correctly if you running
anything higher. I highly suggest making the serial cable,
its much faster than midi. 




--- marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:

> i still have an old powerbook 145 in my basement
> somehwere :) 
> 
> would that work with alchemy ? t would be a pretty neat
> idea to edit the samples visually. i 
> found that chopping short percussive stuff like basedrums
> is not easy without graphical 
> editing :)... (too spoiled by the modern stuff hehe...)
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Mike Wolak <mikewolak@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've found the best way to chop is using an old-school
> Mac
> > and Alchemy 3.0 with a custom made serial cable.
> Details
> > can be found here:
> > 
> > 
>
http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxEditors/emaxeditors.htm

> l
> > 
> > I use a Mac IIci with a Digidesign Audiomedia II sound
> > card. The sound card isn't needed but if you dont have
> one
> > you will have to audition your edits using the Macs
> > built-in 8-bit audio which works ok but doesnt
> integrate
> > well with the rest of the gear in my studio.
> > 
> > The coolest thing about Alchemy is that it supports a
> whole
> > slew of older samplers. You can sample on the EMAX ,
> send
> > the sample over the serial cable to the mac , edit ,
> save,
> > whatever then send it to another sampler, say an Akai
> S1100
> > - over SCSI or midi. It will also let you work the
> other
> > way around and translate / send samples to the EMAX
> from
> > another sampler.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- marc <marc_sps@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > HI,
> > > 
> > > I would like to know what the best way of chopping a
> > > sample is on the Emax 1? 
> > > if i wanted to chop up a long sample into different
> > > pieces, would i have to sample it again 
> > > once i have truncated the first bit ?
> > > 
> > > Thanx 
> > > 
> > > Marc 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
>

Sounds great,

before I try this and possibly waste a lot of time could you answer me
a couple of Q's?:

1. Does that work for a PC with xp?
2. Also, can you sample with the Emax (for the sound), send it to
recycle and back again? 
3. Or does it only work one way from Mac/PC to Emax?

many thanks,
Pete


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <xtr909x@...> wrote:

>
> hi
> 
> the best way to chop samples is using sound forge or recycle, and dump 
> the samples via midi.
> 
> works great, and you can use 44.1khz samples!!!
> 
> cheers
> 
> chip
>

of course! doesn't matter the OS, if your soft has the dump function.

You can both transmit and recieve from almost any sampler.

Sometimes, when trasfering samples from emax banks to pc, the sample 
in sound forge sounds strange, so, tell me if you have the same 
problem.

remember to connect the midi in and out, and if you boot the OS from 
a diskette, you must have the disk on the drive or it does't work.

here is a list, with the pri voices key map for emax plus or any emax 
1

C1  15
G1  22

C2  27
G2  34

C3  39	
G3  46

C4  51
G4  58

C5  63
G5  70

C6  75







--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "manicpeter" <manicpeter@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds great,
> 
> before I try this and possibly waste a lot of time could you answer 
me
> a couple of Q's?:
> 
> 1. Does that work for a PC with xp?
> 2. Also, can you sample with the Emax (for the sound), send it to
> recycle and back again? 
> 3. Or does it only work one way from Mac/PC to Emax?
> 
> many thanks,
> Pete
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <xtr909x@> wrote:
> >
> > hi
> > 
> > the best way to chop samples is using sound forge or recycle, and 
dump 

> > the samples via midi.
> > 
> > works great, and you can use 44.1khz samples!!!
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > chip
> >
>

What about EMXP??  lets you export wav's and such quite easily last I used it.  I want to get back into it soon, the last version I used was over a year ago.
 
I tend to sample each bit separately, it's faster than the emax's internal copying, and gies you better control of the gain on quieter sounds.


To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: xtr909x@...: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:40:11 +0000Subject: [emax] Re: Chopping Samples




of course! doesn't matter the OS, if your soft has the dump function.You can both transmit and recieve from almost any sampler.Sometimes, when trasfering samples from emax banks to pc, the sample in sound forge sounds strange, so, tell me if you have the same problem.remember to connect the midi in and out, and if you boot the OS from a diskette, you must have the disk on the drive or it does't work.here is a list, with the pri voices key map for emax plus or any emax 1C1 15G1 22C2 27G2 34C3 39 G3 46C4 51G4 58C5 63G5 70C6 75--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "manicpeter" <manicpeter@...> wrote:>> Sounds great,> > before I try this and possibly waste a lot of time could you answer me> a couple of Q's?:> > 1. Does that work for a PC with xp?> 2. Also, can you sample with the Emax (for the sound), send it to> recycle and back again? > 3. Or does it only work one way from Mac/PC to Emax?> > many thanks,> Pete> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <xtr909x@> wrote:> >> > hi> > > > the best way to chop samples is using sound forge or recycle, and dump > > the samples via midi.> > > > works great, and you can use 44.1khz samples!!!> > > > cheers> > > > chip> >> 






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