Emax

Im having some confusion/difficulty with the triggering other devices 
through the EmaxII and with the arpeggiator.

I have keyboard (as controller) > hooked up to Emax II (rack) > then 
hooked up to another MIDI sound module.  
Having all three devices set to the same MIDI channel, I can 
play/trigger the module from the keyboard like normal when I have the 
Emax MIDI set to "Thru" (instead of "Out"), and when set to "Out" I 
can use the arpeggiator to trigger the sound module (this is what I 
want to do), but I cant play the module at all with the arpeggiator 
turned off (and the Emax MIDI still set to "Out") for some reason.

I want to be able to use the arpeggiator to trigger other 
modules/things but I need it to be able to still send trigger signals 
to them whether the arpeggiator is on or off.  Seems like it should 
be able to do this.. Im not sure what the problem is, any ideas?

Thanks

This email is 9 days old, but I'm not sure anyone responded to it.

On 10 Dec 2001 at 4:01, sp99z wrote:

> I have keyboard (as controller) > hooked up to Emax II (rack) > then
> hooked up to another MIDI sound module.  Having all three devices set
> to the same MIDI channel, I can play/trigger the module from the
> keyboard like normal when I have the Emax MIDI set to "Thru" (instead
> of "Out"), and when set to "Out" I can use the arpeggiator to trigger
> the sound module (this is what I want to do), but I cant play the
> module at all with the arpeggiator turned off (and the Emax MIDI still
> set to "Out") for some reason. 

This is correct. Think of the Arppegiator as a separate unit. When set to "Thru" the 
incoming MIDI data is passed straight through however, when the Arpeggiator is turned 
on it receives the incoming MIDI data and then sends processed data "Out" the MIDI 
port. The Arppegiator is therefore more like another unit that just happens to be built in 
to the Emax.
 
> I want to be able to use the arpeggiator to trigger other
> modules/things but I need it to be able to still send trigger signals
> to them whether the arpeggiator is on or off.  Seems like it should be
> able to do this.. Im not sure what the problem is, any ideas? 

Unfortunately you can't. 

John Silveria II
AIM: EmaxJS
The Silveria Family Website
Emax and Emax II User's Group
http://www.silveriafamily.com

On Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 10:42  AM, John Silveria wrote:

>> On 10 Dec 2001 at 4:01, sp99z wrote:
> [...]
>> I want to be able to use the arpeggiator to trigger other
>> modules/things but I need it to be able to still send trigger signals
>> to them whether the arpeggiator is on or off.  Seems like it should be
>> able to do this.. Im not sure what the problem is, any ideas?
>
> Unfortunately you can't.

Well, you can't with the Emax alone, but if you get yourself an external 
MIDI Merge box you can route the original controller keyboard 
information to the synths as well as the arp data from the Emax.

Scott

> >> modules/things but I need it to be able to still
> send trigger signals
> >> to them whether the arpeggiator is on or off. 
> Seems like it should be
> >> able to do this.. Im not sure what the problem
> is, any ideas?
> >

how about making an extra copy of each preset you are
using on the emax, with MIDI set to thru on one, and
arp turned on and MIDI sent to out on the other, then
switch presets to turn the arpeggiator "on' or "off"
????

> Well, you can't with the Emax alone, but if you get
> yourself an external 
> MIDI Merge box you can route the original controller
> keyboard 
> information to the synths as well as the arp data
> from the Emax.
> 
hmm.. anatek pocket merge. there may be one of those
on ebay at the moment....



julian


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> > >> modules/things but I need it to be able to still
> > send trigger signals
> > >> to them whether the arpeggiator is on or off. 
> > Seems like it should be
> > >> able to do this.. Im not sure what the problem
> > is, any ideas?
> > >
> 
> how about making an extra copy of each preset you are
> using on the emax, with MIDI set to thru on one, and
> arp turned on and MIDI sent to out on the other, then
> switch presets to turn the arpeggiator "on' or "off"
> ????



oooooo    good idea !,  would that really work and could I switch 
presets like that fast/quickly from a midi footcontroller (if running 
OS from the floppy and not hard drive)?

thanks

From: "sp99z" <smop@...>
> > how about making an extra copy of each preset you are
> > using on the emax, with MIDI set to thru on one, and
> > arp turned on and MIDI sent to out on the other, then
> > switch presets to turn the arpeggiator "on' or "off"
> > ????
>
> oooooo    good idea !,  would that really work and could I switch
> presets like that fast/quickly from a midi footcontroller

maybe.... though thats another thing in the MIDI chain.

I dont use my emax really in depth (just for sampling occasionally for that
excellent sound it gets with its filters) but does anyone know if you can
set foot switch one and foot switch two to advance patches on the emax ?!??
that could be a viable option.

Otherwise, how about just changing patches from the emax's front pannel ?!??

> (if running
> OS from the floppy and not hard drive)?
>
There is no difference. preset info is all in RAM. you load a bank off a
disk, which contains up to 99 presets. so there should be no disk activity
associated with changing presets.



julian


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Plug in a roland type footswitch into one of the pedal sockets on back and then you can 
choose the function for that jack with Preset Definition | 7 | 6 "Adv Preset". Note that it is 
saved with each preset so you will have to set it up in each preset. I think Footswitch 1 
defaults to Sustain and Footswitch 2 defaults to Adv Preset, but I can't be sure.


On 23 Dec 2001 at 3:33, julian wrote:

> 
> From: "sp99z" <smop@...>
> > > how about making an extra copy of each preset you are
> > > using on the emax, with MIDI set to thru on one, and
> > > arp turned on and MIDI sent to out on the other, then
> > > switch presets to turn the arpeggiator "on' or "off"
> > > ????
> >
> > oooooo    good idea !,  would that really work and could I switch
> > presets like that fast/quickly from a midi footcontroller
> 
> maybe.... though thats another thing in the MIDI chain.
> 
> I dont use my emax really in depth (just for sampling occasionally for
> that excellent sound it gets with its filters) but does anyone know if
> you can set foot switch one and foot switch two to advance patches on
> the emax ?!?? that could be a viable option.
> 
> Otherwise, how about just changing patches from the emax's front
> pannel ?!??
> 
> > (if running
> > OS from the floppy and not hard drive)?
> >
> There is no difference. preset info is all in RAM. you load a bank off
> a disk, which contains up to 99 presets. so there should be no disk
> activity associated with changing presets.
> 
> 
> 
> julian
> 
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John Silveria II
AIM: EmaxJS
The Silveria Family Website
Emax and Emax II User's Group
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