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Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II

Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II

2009-12-13 by drifter7508

I bought an external SCSI case and have tried with
2 different SCSI CD-Rom readers in it.

My Emax wont read the CDR's I have made with EMXP.
(Choosed the middle size image available in EMXP)
Basically I made an image in EMXP. Loaded up
the latest EMAX II OS to the image.
Added som banks. 

Renamed the image to ISO and burned it to Maxel CDR's 80.
My Emax wont read em.

Any hints here?

How are the procedure supposed to look when I start up my
Emax II with the SCSI CD set to ID 2 ?
I guess its supposed to not even recognize the CD Rom with
a correct CD in it right?

Re: Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II

2009-12-15 by thenewyorkcowboy

I've had the exact same trouble with my setup.  Here is an excerpt from an email message I got from Ted..

"First thing to note here is that the Emax could only use very specific CD ROM drives that were 1x or 2x, if I recall.
It may not be able to see the drive itself, so the CD format may not even be the issue- the CD for Emax is a proprietary format. My PC or Mac cannot read an Emax 1/2 formatted CD that is known to be in Emax compatible format."

If you look at the Silveria website:

http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_repair.html

There are only a handful of drives listed as known compatible:

These drives are known to be compabitle.
From E-mu Systems UK:

    *
      Sony CDU-6211-10
    *
      Toshiba TXM-3201-A1
    *
      Toshiba TXM-3401-B (double speed)
    *
      Toshiba TXM-3101 (single speed)
    *
      Apple CD150 (single speed)

Submitted by users:

    *
      Sony CDU-8003A (double speed)
    *
      Sony CDU-6211-10 (single speed)
    *
      Toshiba XM-3101BME (single speed)
    *
      Toshiba XM-5201TA (quad speed)
    *
      TEXEL DM-5024 (FCC ID EQNDM5024) - available factory installed in an external case.
    *
      SONY CDU-541-41 (single speed). Roland once sold this unit as the "Roland CD-5"


So you see there are not alot of drives that can be trusted.  I for example bought a Toshiba XM-3401BME thinking it would be close enough, as it has a caddy for the CD, and the 3401-B works as well as the 3101BME, but alas it does not nor is it even recognized by the Emax (which is bad, as I have other devices that can be seen on a forced format or HDD diagnosis, but give hardware errors)

The other thing to consider is the 1x/2x speed, which is another discussion by itself, but you could solve this aspect by finding a piece of software that allows burning this slow even though it may not be necessary if it is simply a drive issue.

One member on this list has had success with the Apple 300e PLUS, which is a closed case external.  Again, a guess is that 300e stands for external, and 300i is internal, but there is the 'PLUS' that you have to worry about.

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emax/message/4726

The nice thing is that if you are intent on getting the CD thing right, there is actually a 300e PLUS for sale on Ebay, although you will pay a premium for it.  It is ITEM # 390122599109.

I have given up on my CD project and moved on to just ZIPS and CF drives which have newer technology and would be able to transfer the data at higher speeds than 1x or 2x anyway.

I am selling all of my amassed SCSI cases, etc. as I've gotten nothing to work and I really wouldn't want to carry around a second box and another cable when I play out...

Your call...





--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "drifter7508" <drifter7508@...> wrote:
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>
> I bought an external SCSI case and have tried with
> 2 different SCSI CD-Rom readers in it.
> 
> My Emax wont read the CDR's I have made with EMXP.
> (Choosed the middle size image available in EMXP)
> Basically I made an image in EMXP. Loaded up
> the latest EMAX II OS to the image.
> Added som banks. 
> 
> Renamed the image to ISO and burned it to Maxel CDR's 80.
> My Emax wont read em.
> 
> Any hints here?
> 
> How are the procedure supposed to look when I start up my
> Emax II with the SCSI CD set to ID 2 ?
> I guess its supposed to not even recognize the CD Rom with
> a correct CD in it right?
>

Re: Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II

2009-12-16 by drifter7508

Thx for the info.

Im soon giving up on this project. Just had my mint cond.
Emax II (Turbo) sitting there with no sounds for 3 months now =P

How does the CF Drives work? Is it just to drop a
EMXP image right on the card and boot the card up in the EMAX?

Re: Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II

2009-12-16 by Everett

The CF drive helps a lot!  I actually have two of them... one in my PC and one in my EMAX.  Loading sample banks is as easy as removing the CF card from the EMAX, plugging it into the PC, loading up EMXP, and copying the banks over (or CD image in your case).  I have a 1 GB card and still have 800 MB free with the entire factory sound library installed.  The only downside (if you can call it that) is the data slider gets a little touchy with so many banks available.

If you post the image on zshare or something I can try it out for you.  I have not personally done a CD image, only a HD image I created myself to test that feature out.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "drifter7508" <drifter7508@...> wrote:
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>
> Thx for the info.
> 
> Im soon giving up on this project. Just had my mint cond.
> Emax II (Turbo) sitting there with no sounds for 3 months now =P
> 
> How does the CF Drives work? Is it just to drop a
> EMXP image right on the card and boot the card up in the EMAX?
>

Re: [emax] Re: Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II

2009-12-16 by jammie

I CREATE CD IMAGES WITH EMXP FROM E2 BANK FILES in emax1/2 format aswell as e3 for my e4ultra and e3 and emulatorx2 they are also readable in extreme sample converter where i can tranform to any other coputer sample synth file format you vcan send me the image and i will test in the emax
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Everett 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:21 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Trouble with SCSI CD-rom and burnt CD's Emax II


    
  The CF drive helps a lot! I actually have two of them... one in my PC and one in my EMAX. Loading sample banks is as easy as removing the CF card from the EMAX, plugging it into the PC, loading up EMXP, and copying the banks over (or CD image in your case). I have a 1 GB card and still have 800 MB free with the entire factory sound library installed. The only downside (if you can call it that) is the data slider gets a little touchy with so many banks available.

  If you post the image on zshare or something I can try it out for you. I have not personally done a CD image, only a HD image I created myself to test that feature out.

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "drifter7508" <drifter7508@...> wrote:
  >
  > Thx for the info.
  > 
  > Im soon giving up on this project. Just had my mint cond.
  > Emax II (Turbo) sitting there with no sounds for 3 months now =P
  > 
  > How does the CF Drives work? Is it just to drop a
  > EMXP image right on the card and boot the card up in the EMAX?
  >



  


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