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DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by kolakube

Hi, 

FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.

Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore.  

First thing that needs doing is the screen.  I can read the writing on it but the blue background seems faded.  Its actually easier to see with the light on.  Any remedies?

Id like to uprate the RAM too.  I have done a little research into this and understand this is awkward to do.  I have 4 meg in mine so have the necessary daughter board.  
Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?

Also how easy are spares to come by?  I worry in the coming decade these these may not be maintainable.

Mickey

Re: [emax] DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by jammie

yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 1 which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in various colours even pink

http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html

i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kolakube 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
  Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue


    
  Hi, 

  FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.

  Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
  So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore. 

  First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on it but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the light on. Any remedies?

  Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the necessary daughter board. 
  Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?

  Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these these may not be maintainable.

  Mickey



  


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Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by kolakube

Hi there,

I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.

Mickey

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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>
> yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 1 which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in various colours even pink
> 
> http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
> 
> i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: kolakube 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
>   Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
> 
> 
>     
>   Hi, 
> 
>   FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
> 
>   Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
>   So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore. 
> 
>   First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on it but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the light on. Any remedies?
> 
>   Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the necessary daughter board. 
>   Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
> 
>   Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these these may not be maintainable.
> 
>   Mickey
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
>   No virus found in this incoming message.
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>

Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by jammie

you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kolakube 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue


    
  Hi there,

  I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.

  Mickey

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >
  > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 1 which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in various colours even pink
  > 
  > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
  > 
  > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: kolakube 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
  > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Hi, 
  > 
  > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
  > 
  > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
  > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore. 
  > 
  > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on it but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the light on. Any remedies?
  > 
  > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the necessary daughter board. 
  > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
  > 
  > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these these may not be maintainable.
  > 
  > Mickey
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ----------------------------------------------------------
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > No virus found in this incoming message.
  > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
  > Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10 06:34:00
  > 
  > 
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Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by kolakube

Ah right.  Thanks Jamie

How easy are they to fit/take out/replace whatever?

Mickey

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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>
> you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: kolakube 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
> 
> 
>     
>   Hi there,
> 
>   I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
> 
>   Mickey
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
>   >
>   > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 1 which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in various colours even pink
>   > 
>   > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
>   > 
>   > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: kolakube 
>   > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
>   > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Hi, 
>   > 
>   > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
>   > 
>   > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
>   > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore. 
>   > 
>   > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on it but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the light on. Any remedies?
>   > 
>   > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the necessary daughter board. 
>   > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
>   > 
>   > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these these may not be maintainable.
>   > 
>   > Mickey
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > ----------------------------------------------------------
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > No virus found in this incoming message.
>   > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
>   > Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10 06:34:00
>   > 
>   > 
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
>   No virus found in this incoming message.
>   Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
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>

Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by James Ulibarri

let us know what size they tell you the emax lcd is.  I want to order one
too. (pink)

Are these the same as the Telesis units?  They said they have white foils
and you can put a pink filter over it for an extra $5.  Or is the
backlightforyou product more refined built and more intergrated?  (I mean
the gel for the colors).

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...>wrote:

>
>
> you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that
> fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kolakube
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
> Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
>
> Mickey
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie"
> <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >
> > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 1
> which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in
> various colours even pink
> >
> > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
> >
> > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back
> light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: kolakube
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
> > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
> >
> > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
> > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do
> everything I can to restore.
> >
> > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on it
> but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the
> light on. Any remedies?
> >
> > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this
> and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the
> necessary daughter board.
> > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
> >
> > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these
> these may not be maintainable.
> >
> > Mickey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10
> 06:34:00
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10
> 06:34:00
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by jammie

gel for colour

i wont use telesis units as they sent me 1 and it was back to front they had 
the anode and cathode the wrong way round so when i put in the lcd it shon 
backwards very anoying as i turned it around and the foil did not light at 
all

i contacted them as it was a customer repair and he told me that the foil 
was correct i told him it was wrong but got no joy from him i ended up 
forking out extra cash to get 1

from the link i gave which was perfect as they have silver backing and will 
only light 1 way

when you make your own efoils you buy an efiol sheet which is a big square 
200x200mm and with a number of cathodes and anodes arround the outside of 
the big efoil

you then cut the sheet to make the size you require

there are diferent polarities of anode and cathode so that they can be 
connected from either right or left

when they make the efoils for various synths they cut an efoil and test the 
polarity of the efoil with the synth using jumper wires this way they can 
tell if the + or minus connections are reversed on the lcd terminals

so that you can make sure that it shines the right way
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue


> let us know what size they tell you the emax lcd is.  I want to order one
> too. (pink)
>
> Are these the same as the Telesis units?  They said they have white foils
> and you can put a pink filter over it for an extra $5.  Or is the
> backlightforyou product more refined built and more intergrated?  (I mean
> the gel for the colors).
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jammie 
> <jammie.emma@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that
>> fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: kolakube
>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
>> Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
>>
>> Mickey
>>
>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie"
>> <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 
>> > 1
>> which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in
>> various colours even pink
>> >
>> > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
>> >
>> > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back
>> light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: kolakube
>> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
>> > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
>> >
>> > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
>> > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do
>> everything I can to restore.
>> >
>> > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on 
>> > it
>> but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the
>> light on. Any remedies?
>> >
>> > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this
>> and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the
>> necessary daughter board.
>> > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
>> >
>> > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these
>> these may not be maintainable.
>> >
>> > Mickey
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 
>> > 09/25/10
>> 06:34:00
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10
>> 06:34:00
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>
> http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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06:34:00

Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by kolakube

What size did you order Jammy.  Saves me taking mine to bits.

Are they easy to install?

Mickey

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> gel for colour
> 
> i wont use telesis units as they sent me 1 and it was back to front they had 
> the anode and cathode the wrong way round so when i put in the lcd it shon 
> backwards very anoying as i turned it around and the foil did not light at 
> all
> 
> i contacted them as it was a customer repair and he told me that the foil 
> was correct i told him it was wrong but got no joy from him i ended up 
> forking out extra cash to get 1
> 
> from the link i gave which was perfect as they have silver backing and will 
> only light 1 way
> 
> when you make your own efoils you buy an efiol sheet which is a big square 
> 200x200mm and with a number of cathodes and anodes arround the outside of 
> the big efoil
> 
> you then cut the sheet to make the size you require
> 
> there are diferent polarities of anode and cathode so that they can be 
> connected from either right or left
> 
> when they make the efoils for various synths they cut an efoil and test the 
> polarity of the efoil with the synth using jumper wires this way they can 
> tell if the + or minus connections are reversed on the lcd terminals
> 
> so that you can make sure that it shines the right way
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
> 
> 
> > let us know what size they tell you the emax lcd is.  I want to order one
> > too. (pink)
> >
> > Are these the same as the Telesis units?  They said they have white foils
> > and you can put a pink filter over it for an extra $5.  Or is the
> > backlightforyou product more refined built and more intergrated?  (I mean
> > the gel for the colors).
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jammie 
> > <jammie.emma@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that
> >> fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: kolakube
> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
> >> Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
> >>
> >> Mickey
> >>
> >> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie"
> >> <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 
> >> > 1
> >> which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in
> >> various colours even pink
> >> >
> >> > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
> >> >
> >> > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back
> >> light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: kolakube
> >> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
> >> > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
> >> >
> >> > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
> >> > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do
> >> everything I can to restore.
> >> >
> >> > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on 
> >> > it
> >> but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the
> >> light on. Any remedies?
> >> >
> >> > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this
> >> and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the
> >> necessary daughter board.
> >> > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
> >> >
> >> > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these
> >> these may not be maintainable.
> >> >
> >> > Mickey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> > Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 
> >> > 09/25/10
> >> 06:34:00
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10
> >> 06:34:00
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
> >
> > http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 09/25/10 
> 06:34:00
>

Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-25 by jammie

desolder 2 connections remove old 1 by sliding it out 

the new 1 comes over sized a little you have to trim it to fit then just slide it into place and resolder

i have the old 1 some where ill have a look
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kolakube 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:42 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue


    
  What size did you order Jammy. Saves me taking mine to bits.

  Are they easy to install?

  Mickey

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >
  > gel for colour
  > 
  > i wont use telesis units as they sent me 1 and it was back to front they had 
  > the anode and cathode the wrong way round so when i put in the lcd it shon 
  > backwards very anoying as i turned it around and the foil did not light at 
  > all
  > 
  > i contacted them as it was a customer repair and he told me that the foil 
  > was correct i told him it was wrong but got no joy from him i ended up 
  > forking out extra cash to get 1
  > 
  > from the link i gave which was perfect as they have silver backing and will 
  > only light 1 way
  > 
  > when you make your own efoils you buy an efiol sheet which is a big square 
  > 200x200mm and with a number of cathodes and anodes arround the outside of 
  > the big efoil
  > 
  > you then cut the sheet to make the size you require
  > 
  > there are diferent polarities of anode and cathode so that they can be 
  > connected from either right or left
  > 
  > when they make the efoils for various synths they cut an efoil and test the 
  > polarity of the efoil with the synth using jumper wires this way they can 
  > tell if the + or minus connections are reversed on the lcd terminals
  > 
  > so that you can make sure that it shines the right way
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...>
  > To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:09 PM
  > Subject: Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
  > 
  > 
  > > let us know what size they tell you the emax lcd is. I want to order one
  > > too. (pink)
  > >
  > > Are these the same as the Telesis units? They said they have white foils
  > > and you can put a pink filter over it for an extra $5. Or is the
  > > backlightforyou product more refined built and more intergrated? (I mean
  > > the gel for the colors).
  > >
  > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jammie 
  > > <jammie.emma@...>wrote:
  > >
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that
  > >> fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it
  > >> ----- Original Message -----
  > >> From: kolakube
  > >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
  > >> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
  > >> Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
  > >>
  > >> Hi there,
  > >>
  > >> I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
  > >>
  > >> Mickey
  > >>
  > >> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie"
  > >> <jammie.emma@> wrote:
  > >> >
  > >> > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 
  > >> > 1
  > >> which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in
  > >> various colours even pink
  > >> >
  > >> > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
  > >> >
  > >> > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back
  > >> light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see
  > >> > ----- Original Message -----
  > >> > From: kolakube
  > >> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
  > >> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
  > >> > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > Hi,
  > >> >
  > >> > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
  > >> >
  > >> > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
  > >> > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do
  > >> everything I can to restore.
  > >> >
  > >> > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on 
  > >> > it
  > >> but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the
  > >> light on. Any remedies?
  > >> >
  > >> > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this
  > >> and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the
  > >> necessary daughter board.
  > >> > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
  > >> >
  > >> > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these
  > >> these may not be maintainable.
  > >> >
  > >> > Mickey
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
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  > >> > 09/25/10
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  > >
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  > >
  > > ------------------------------------
  > >
  > > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
  > >
  > > http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
  > >
  > >
  > >
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Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-27 by patrick_thomas@...

What synth was it where you saw the polarity issue?  Every 80s/90s EL system I've seen uses AC to drive the panel, hence the inverters (the things that whine a bit when the display is old).  Even if the polarity was backwards on an OEL or LED backlight, it would just not shine, it wouldn't send light out of the non-iridescent backing. :)

I've had pretty good luck with Telesis in the past, although the latest EL panel I got -- for a larger (T1/M1/TG77/etc) panel -- had a slight diagonal line when illuminated, and needed minor trimming to fit.

Another option that may exist for these is to retrofit an entire modern LCD panel, as is popular with the Wavestation, M1/T1, TG77, and others.  That way you get the benefit of an LED backlight (which will virtually never burn out), better contrast/color options, and for a 16x2 or whatever the emax II uses, it's probably cheaper than a $30 backlight.  But I can't confirm it would work without a schematic, and you'd have to dig around for 5v to send to the display if it currently uses AC, which I believe it does.

Glad you're enjoying the new synth, have fun! :)


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> i wont use telesis units as they sent me 1 and it was back to front they had the anode and cathode the wrong way round so when i put in the lcd it shon  backwards very anoying as i turned it around and the foil did not light at all
> 
> i contacted them as it was a customer repair and he told me that the foil was correct i told him it was wrong but got no joy from him i ended up forking out extra cash to get 1 from the link i gave which was perfect as they have silver backing and will only light 1 way

Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-27 by Louis van Dompselaar

> Every 80s/90s EL system I've seen uses AC to drive the panel, hence the inverters (the things that whine a bit when the display is old). 
> 
> 

Indeed, and so does the Emax.  The whine is because of the oscillator that generates the AC (typically close to 100V) for the EL foil.  The small transformer that's in the inverter will vibrate in that frequency, causing the sound.  There generally isn't a rectifier after the inverter (and I doubt EL foil would even work on DC).

By the way, whine and display age are not necessarily related.  Mine was pretty silent with a dead backlight and has started whining significantly more since it got a new backlight...



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Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-27 by jammie

problem with fitting a led lcd is that its 7mm larger in depth

and sits away from the the stand offs and you have to do 1 of 2 things 1 is to cut a hole in the panel for the lcd to sit through then add a piece of protective glass on top or you have to extend all the buttons and potentiometers

and it did not send light out off the back it shone through the right side but only when connected with the light side facing towards the back of the synth

im a synth repair tech and have been fixing synths for 20 years

and have made my own el foil panels so i know what im talking about
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: patrick_thomas@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:02 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue


    
  What synth was it where you saw the polarity issue? Every 80s/90s EL system I've seen uses AC to drive the panel, hence the inverters (the things that whine a bit when the display is old). Even if the polarity was backwards on an OEL or LED backlight, it would just not shine, it wouldn't send light out of the non-iridescent backing. :)

  I've had pretty good luck with Telesis in the past, although the latest EL panel I got -- for a larger (T1/M1/TG77/etc) panel -- had a slight diagonal line when illuminated, and needed minor trimming to fit.

  Another option that may exist for these is to retrofit an entire modern LCD panel, as is popular with the Wavestation, M1/T1, TG77, and others. That way you get the benefit of an LED backlight (which will virtually never burn out), better contrast/color options, and for a 16x2 or whatever the emax II uses, it's probably cheaper than a $30 backlight. But I can't confirm it would work without a schematic, and you'd have to dig around for 5v to send to the display if it currently uses AC, which I believe it does.

  Glad you're enjoying the new synth, have fun! :)

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

  > i wont use telesis units as they sent me 1 and it was back to front they had the anode and cathode the wrong way round so when i put in the lcd it shon backwards very anoying as i turned it around and the foil did not light at all
  > 
  > i contacted them as it was a customer repair and he told me that the foil was correct i told him it was wrong but got no joy from him i ended up forking out extra cash to get 1 from the link i gave which was perfect as they have silver backing and will only light 1 way



  


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Re: DIsplay issue

2010-09-28 by dbaum0000

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "kolakube" <kolakube123@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, 
> 
> FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
> 
> Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
> So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore.  
> 

> 
> Mickey
>

Hello,

Here's my solution to the same problem. Ikea to the rescue:

http://www.type34.info/temp/My%20equipment/IMG_2518-1.jpg

Daniel

Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-10-04 by jammie

unsolder with desolder gun or desolder wick

litely pull the elfoil from pins then slide out from lcd

use old efoil as template for trimming new 1

once trimed slide the efoil back into lcd lining up holes on pins

then place pin hole down over pins and resolder

job done 

if its a akai or fz1 then its attached to a cable so its a means of sliding out old efoil and disconnecting cable from old efoil and reconnecting new efoil

this is an easier job as it can all be done away from the sampler or synth
Show quoted textHide quoted text
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kolakube 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:08 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue


    
  Ah right. Thanks Jamie

  How easy are they to fit/take out/replace whatever?

  Mickey

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
  >
  > you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: kolakube 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Hi there,
  > 
  > I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
  > 
  > Mickey
  > 
  > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
  > >
  > > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow 1 which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in various colours even pink
  > > 
  > > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
  > > 
  > > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see 
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: kolakube 
  > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
  > > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Hi, 
  > > 
  > > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
  > > 
  > > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
  > > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do everything I can to restore. 
  > > 
  > > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on it but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the light on. Any remedies?
  > > 
  > > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the necessary daughter board. 
  > > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
  > > 
  > > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these these may not be maintainable.
  > > 
  > > Mickey
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > ----------------------------------------------------------
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
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Re: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue

2010-10-04 by James Ulibarri

I ordered a foil.  Piece of crap.   I need a real LCD.  Maybe something from
Crystal Fonts if I can find the right one that is compatible.


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

>
>
> unsolder with desolder gun or desolder wick
>
> litely pull the elfoil from pins then slide out from lcd
>
> use old efoil as template for trimming new 1
>
> once trimed slide the efoil back into lcd lining up holes on pins
>
> then place pin hole down over pins and resolder
>
> job done
>
> if its a akai or fz1 then its attached to a cable so its a means of sliding
> out old efoil and disconnecting cable from old efoil and reconnecting new
> efoil
>
> this is an easier job as it can all be done away from the sampler or synth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kolakube
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:08 PM
> Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
>
> Ah right. Thanks Jamie
>
> How easy are they to fit/take out/replace whatever?
>
> Mickey
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie"
> <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >
> > you just give them the dimentions of your efoil and they will make 1 that
> fits or you can send your old 1 and they can template it
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: kolakube
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:27 PM
> > Subject: [emax] Re: DIsplay issue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have looked at that link yet cant see anything for Emax 2.
> >
> > Mickey
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie"
> <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> > >
> > > yes a new el foil the original is a pale blue but you can get a yellow
> 1 which is much better get it from these guys they do loads of models in
> various colours even pink
> > >
> > > http://www.backlight4you.com/index.php/cat/c130_EL-Replacements.html
> > >
> > > i have used them in the past for akai which also had the pale blue back
> light i changed it to the yellow and its much better to see
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: kolakube
> > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: [emax] DIsplay issue
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > FIrst ever post on a Yahoo group so sorry if this has been answered.
> > >
> > > Just bought an Emax 2 and am literally hooked. .
> > > So, now that I have found love in my life of course I want to do
> everything I can to restore.
> > >
> > > First thing that needs doing is the screen. I can read the writing on
> it but the blue background seems faded. Its actually easier to see with the
> light on. Any remedies?
> > >
> > > Id like to uprate the RAM too. I have done a little research into this
> and understand this is awkward to do. I have 4 meg in mine so have the
> necessary daughter board.
> > > Is there anywhere I can get another 4 meg to max it out?
> > >
> > > Also how easy are spares to come by? I worry in the coming decade these
> these may not be maintainable.
> > >
> > > Mickey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
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