Emax

Hi

(I think that I have read all FAQs Ive come across etc..)
Some things Im really wondering about the Emax I/II :


*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)

*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being played?
(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)

* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find now?  regular ones not work??

*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?

*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done with a MIDI footswitch?

*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?

*is this too many questions?




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> *can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
> (like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
> sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
> sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)

Yes. But you'll probably run into the limitations of both the polyphony 
and the memory of the Emax II. For the type of use you want you need 
to become familiar with the sequencers MulitMode function. This 
allows for 16 channels of data to be routed to up to 16 presets within 
the same bank. The other problem you might face is how to get all of 
the machines to send their data into the Emax II's 1 MIDI In jack. I do 
something similar live where I have the sequencer doing all the drum 
work and use the sequencer to also route the data coming from my 
controller to the Emax II as well so I can play it in realtime.

> *is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being
> played? (like to run the emax output through some effects devices then
> back into the emax to resample the effected/modified sound) 

No, resampling is fairly new and limited to top of the line samplers with 
their own effects cards built in.

> * the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
> now?  regular ones not work??

They have a very limited life. Most of the HD disks I tried to use went 
corrupt within a year without warning. Forget about floppies go with 
removable media like a Syquest or Zip drive. Or use an internal and 
external HD.

> *Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?

A manual can be ordered through E-mu or their website. Look under 
Parts.
 
> *can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>   If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
>   with a MIDI footswitch?

Not that I'm aware of. The closest thing is to set the threshold up high 
enough that it doesn't start sampling to you trigger what it is you want 
sampled.
 
> *can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
> using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?

You can send any Mono sound file to the Emax II via MIDI Sample 
Dump Standard using a program that uses that format as well. On a 
PC your best bet is Sound Forge by Sonic Foundry for professional 
use/price or search (I think) shareware archives like Tucows for this 
little shareware app that can do it to (after being registered for $12) I 
can't remember what it's called.

BTW - the Emax and Emax II User's Website has moved to 
http://www.silveriafamily.com.


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At leas I can answer a few of you q:s...
>
>(I think that I have read all FAQs Ive come across etc..)
>Some things Im really wondering about the Emax I/II :
>
>
>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)

Yes, if you buy a "midi merger.box" e.g. two or more midi in's => one midi
out. Should cost less than $50, maybe under $20. dunno...



>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being played?
>(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into
the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)

Not internally, you have to sample to DAT or another digital media to get
acceptable results. If you have an Atari computer you can transfer samples
via midi digitally to the Arati and the edit/process the samples in the
computer.

>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
now?  regular ones not work??

Dunno... Am a HDD guy.. lol

>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?

Haven't seen any manual online yet.

>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
with a MIDI footswitch?

you could of course solder a wire from your Emax-7-key and connect it to an
ordinary F-SW. But you still have to enter sample mode and adjust levels
first..:)

>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?

Dunno... Probably, but Emu still refuses (i think) to share their
sample-format-assignment-protocol with the public. If your goor at signal
analysis maybe you can write your own waw->Emax utility. (Ill buy a copy
when youre done)

>*is this too many questions?
>
>
>
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>From: "   " <smop@...>
>
>Hi
>
>(I think that I have read all FAQs Ive come across etc..)
>Some things Im really wondering about the Emax I/II :
>
>
>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
>sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
>sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)
>
>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being played?
>(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into
>the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)
>
>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
>now?  regular ones not work??
>
>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?
>
>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
>with a MIDI footswitch?
>
>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
>using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?
>
>*is this too many questions?
>
>
>
>
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Hi,

you can find emax 2 manual in pdf format at
many functions are same on emax1/2





Jyrki

>From: "   " <smop@...>
>
>Hi
>
>(I think that I have read all FAQs Ive come across etc..)
>Some things Im really wondering about the Emax I/II :
>
>
>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
>sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
>sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)
>
>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being played?
>(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into
>the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)
>
>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
>now?  regular ones not work??
>
>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?
>
>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
>with a MIDI footswitch?
>
>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
>using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?
>
>*is this too many questions?
>
>
>
>
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Hi,

try http://www.emulatorarchive.com there is emax 2 usermanual in pdf format,
many functions in emax 1/2 are similar, so  it works for emax1 also.







Jyrki

> you can find emax 2 manual in pdf format at many functions are same on
> emax1/2 

Where at?? I think you forgot the URL :)


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Thanks for all the replies so far..

Right now wondering if 260 is a good deal for an Emax II with 5mb ram and 500mb scsi HD.
Or does anyone know of other Emax I/II for sale anywhere by chance?



>>
>>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
>>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
>sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
>sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)
>
>Yes, if you buy a "midi merger.box" e.g. two or more midi in's => one midi
>out. Should cost less than $50, maybe under $20. dunno...
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
couldnt that be done just by using one MIDI cable throught several devices , with each using different MIDI channels.
I wish there was a page that explained this type of MIDI concerning sequencer structures with keyboard layouts ('virtual sets') and multi-channel triggering things etc.. in depth
I only find



>
>
>>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being played?
>>(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into
>the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)
>
>Not internally, you have to sample to DAT or another digital media to get
>acceptable results. If you have an Atari computer you can transfer samples
>via midi digitally to the Arati and the edit/process the samples in the
>computer.
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Im wondering if a portabe MiniDisk recorder would be good for this purpose , and also for taking samples outdoors and anywhere "outside the studio"




>>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
>now?  regular ones not work??
>
>Dunno... Am a HDD guy.. lol
>
>>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?
>
>Haven't seen any manual online yet.
>
>>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
>with a MIDI footswitch?
>
>you could of course solder a wire from your Emax-7-key and connect it to an
>ordinary F-SW. But you still have to enter sample mode and adjust levels
>first..:)
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I think I will do that
I find it strange that so many samplers (even newer ones like the SP808) dont have such a simple 'rudimentary' and usefull feature (among so many others..) - in my opinion



>>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
>using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?
>
>Dunno... Probably, but Emu still refuses (i think) to share their
>sample-format-assignment-protocol with the public. If your goor at signal
>analysis maybe you can write your own waw->Emax utility. (Ill buy a copy
>when youre done)
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For what purpose would Emax still withhold this info??



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IMHO $260 is a great deal. I've seen 4Mb units go for around $400. I've 
never heard of a 5Mb Emax II though. Does that means they've put in a 
4Mb expansion, but only have 1Mb on the motherboard? Most 
systems are either 1Mb (mono) or 2Mb (stereo) then 4, 6, or 8Mb. 5 is 
a very odd number I'd make sure it's stereo as most of the 1Mb models 
were mono. Are you sure it's 5Mb and not 4?? See my website to 
figure out how much memory there actually is.


> Thanks for all the replies so far..
> 
> Right now wondering if 260 is a good deal for an Emax II with 5mb ram and
> 500mb scsi HD. Or does anyone know of other Emax I/II for sale anywhere by
> chance?
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
> >>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
> >sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
> >sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)
> >
> >Yes, if you buy a "midi merger.box" e.g. two or more midi in's => one
> >midi out. Should cost less than $50, maybe under $20. dunno...
> >
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> couldnt that be done just by using one MIDI cable throught several devices
> , with each using different MIDI channels. I wish there was a page that
> explained this type of MIDI concerning sequencer structures with keyboard
> layouts ('virtual sets') and multi-channel triggering things etc.. in
> depth I only find
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being
> >>played? (like to run the emax output through some effects devices then
> >>back into
> >the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)
> >
> >Not internally, you have to sample to DAT or another digital media to get
> >acceptable results. If you have an Atari computer you can transfer
> >samples via midi digitally to the Arati and the edit/process the samples
> >in the computer.
> >
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Im wondering if a portabe MiniDisk recorder would be good for this purpose
> , and also for taking samples outdoors and anywhere "outside the studio"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to
> >>find
> >now?  regular ones not work??
> >
> >Dunno... Am a HDD guy.. lol
> >
> >>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?
> >
> >Haven't seen any manual online yet.
> >
> >>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
> >>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
> >with a MIDI footswitch?
> >
> >you could of course solder a wire from your Emax-7-key and connect it to
> >an ordinary F-SW. But you still have to enter sample mode and adjust
> >levels first..:)
> >
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I think I will do that
> I find it strange that so many samplers (even newer ones like the SP808)
> dont have such a simple 'rudimentary' and usefull feature (among so many
> others..) - in my opinion
> 
> 
> 
> >>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
> >using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?
> >
> >Dunno... Probably, but Emu still refuses (i think) to share their
> >sample-format-assignment-protocol with the public. If your goor at signal
> >analysis maybe you can write your own waw->Emax utility. (Ill buy a copy
> >when youre done)
> >
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> For what purpose would Emax still withhold this info??
> 
> 
> 
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At 12:46 PM 11/6/99 -0800, you wrote:
>From: "   " <smop@...>

You should avoid EmaxII's with odd amounts of RAM (1, 3, 5...) since they
almost always only have mono sample in. The later ones were equipped w 2MB
of RAM as standard, and a stereo sample input

> 
>Thanks for all the replies so far..
>
>Right now wondering if 260 is a good deal for an Emax II with 5mb ram and
500mb scsi HD.
>Or does anyone know of other Emax I/II for sale anywhere by chance?
>
>
>
>>>
>>>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
>>>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
>>sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
>>sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)
>>
>>Yes, if you buy a "midi merger.box" e.g. two or more midi in's => one midi
>>out. Should cost less than $50, maybe under $20. dunno...
>>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>couldnt that be done just by using one MIDI cable throught several devices
, with each using different MIDI channels.
>I wish there was a page that explained this type of MIDI concerning
sequencer structures with keyboard layouts ('virtual sets') and
multi-channel triggering things etc.. in depth
>I only find
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being
played?
>>>(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into
>>the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)
>>
>>Not internally, you have to sample to DAT or another digital media to get
>>acceptable results. If you have an Atari computer you can transfer samples
>>via midi digitally to the Arati and the edit/process the samples in the
>>computer.
>>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Im wondering if a portabe MiniDisk recorder would be good for this purpose
, and also for taking samples outdoors and anywhere "outside the studio"
>
>
>
>
>>>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
>>now?  regular ones not work??
>>
>>Dunno... Am a HDD guy.. lol
>>
>>>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?
>>
>>Haven't seen any manual online yet.
>>
>>>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>>>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
>>with a MIDI footswitch?
>>
>>you could of course solder a wire from your Emax-7-key and connect it to an
>>ordinary F-SW. But you still have to enter sample mode and adjust levels
>>first..:)
>>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>I think I will do that
>I find it strange that so many samplers (even newer ones like the SP808)
dont have such a simple 'rudimentary' and usefull feature (among so many
others..) - in my opinion

>
>
>
>>>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
>>using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?
>>
>>Dunno... Probably, but Emu still refuses (i think) to share their
>>sample-format-assignment-protocol with the public. If your goor at signal
>>analysis maybe you can write your own waw->Emax utility. (Ill buy a copy
>>when youre done)
>>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>For what purpose would Emax still withhold this info??
>
>
>
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>

Is that the only difference and downside?


 

>
>You should avoid EmaxII's with odd amounts of RAM (1, 3, 5...) since they
>almost always only have mono sample in. The later ones were equipped w 2MB
>of RAM as standard, and a stereo sample input
>
>> 
>>Thanks for all the replies so far..
>>
>>Right now wondering if 260 is a good deal for an Emax II with 5mb ram and
>500mb scsi HD.
>>Or does anyone know of other Emax I/II for sale anywhere by chance?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>*can separate sets be triggered simultaneously , separately?
>>>>(like to have a drum machine triggering a drum sounds set while a
>>>sequencer triggers a separate sample set (consisting of some pitched
>>>sound/tone)  (each on a different MIDI channel) at the same time)
>>>
>>>Yes, if you buy a "midi merger.box" e.g. two or more midi in's => one midi
>>>out. Should cost less than $50, maybe under $20. dunno...
>>>
>>
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>couldnt that be done just by using one MIDI cable throught several devices
>, with each using different MIDI channels.
>>I wish there was a page that explained this type of MIDI concerning
>sequencer structures with keyboard layouts ('virtual sets') and
>multi-channel triggering things etc.. in depth
>>I only find
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>*is there a way to resample the modified output as the sound is being
>played?
>>>>(like to run the emax output through some effects devices then back into
>>>the emax to resample the effected/modified sound)
>>>
>>>Not internally, you have to sample to DAT or another digital media to get
>>>acceptable results. If you have an Atari computer you can transfer samples
>>>via midi digitally to the Arati and the edit/process the samples in the
>>>computer.
>>>
>>
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Im wondering if a portabe MiniDisk recorder would be good for this purpose
>, and also for taking samples outdoors and anywhere "outside the studio"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>* the type of diskettes that work with Emax I/II  (DS DD) are hard to find
>>>now?  regular ones not work??
>>>
>>>Dunno... Am a HDD guy.. lol
>>>
>>>>*Is there a manual or other indepth info online anywhere?
>>>
>>>Haven't seen any manual online yet.
>>>
>>>>*can Emax start/stop sample taking with a footswitch?
>>>>  If not could a mod be made which would allow that, or could it be done
>>>with a MIDI footswitch?
>>>
>>>you could of course solder a wire from your Emax-7-key and connect it to an
>>>ordinary F-SW. But you still have to enter sample mode and adjust levels
>>>first..:)
>>>
>>
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>I think I will do that
>>I find it strange that so many samplers (even newer ones like the SP808)
>dont have such a simple 'rudimentary' and usefull feature (among so many
>others..) - in my opinion
>>
>>
>>
>>>>*can wave or other sample files on a PC be converted to the Emax format
>>>using the PC Emax program (or any other conversion program) ?
>>>
>>>Dunno... Probably, but Emu still refuses (i think) to share their
>>>sample-format-assignment-protocol with the public. If your goor at signal
>>>analysis maybe you can write your own waw->Emax utility. (Ill buy a copy
>>>when youre done)
>>>
>>
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>For what purpose would Emax still withhold this info??
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>>Emax and Emax II User's Group
>>
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>> 
>
>>Emax and Emax II User's Group
>
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>


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The only other thing I'd add is that it won't be upgradeable. How you 
get it is how it will stay.

> Is that the only difference and downside?
> >
> >You should avoid EmaxII's with odd amounts of RAM (1, 3, 5...) since they
> >almost always only have mono sample in. The later ones were equipped w
> >2MB of RAM as standard, and a stereo sample input



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                   AIM/AOL - Emax JS
--------------------------------------------------------
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