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Re: [EXS] Sampled piano's in general - Was: White Grand gets reviewed in SOS

2004-04-21 by HKC

Have you ever tried to record a real piano or a grand. In many cases they can sound artificial too, which they of course aren´t. It has a lot to do with how you perceive the sound of a piano when played acoustically, pretty much like drums. The room has a lot to do with this and therefore also ambiance mikes. Because most pianos are sampled pretty close-miked this is something that you will have to add yourself either by reverb or by sending the sampled piano thru some speakers in a decent room and re-record the part with microphones. I once heard a piece of music that was recorded on a real piano, then the piano was sampled with mayby 4-5 layers and the part was recorded again this time with midi and nobody was able to tell which was which. I´m sure this is also the case with a lot of the 2GB pianos around you just have to add environment and early reflections yourself.

Henrik Krogh
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Hardwake 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [EXS] Sampled piano's in general - Was: White Grand gets reviewed in SOS


  Hi Herbert,

  At 10:32 AM +0200 4/21/04, Herbert Boland wrote:

  >I should elaborate. I tried two or three of the well known
  >libraries, I have Gigapiano, some Akai piano stuff and Garritan Personal
  >Orchestra which has a Steinway 280 (?) thrown in, too.

  Have you tried East - West Ultimate Piano Collection? Works 
  reasonably well for me (used with my Akai machines, so not sure if it 
  translates well to EXS). Also, I had played piano for quarter century 
  before I switched to electronic music, and I have totally given up 
  the idea of playing, say, Chopin on a sampler, even with the best of 
  the best sample library, cause it will never sound as good as the 
  real thing no matter how much RAM or how many velocity layers or 
  whatever else it may use, so I only use it when it's just an addition 
  to my electronic textures and the quality is not that critical. Just 
  my $0.02.

  Best,

  Andy


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