EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

No sampled piano sounds like a real piano, just because no monitor can
reproduce the sound of the real instrument.
It is the same with all complex instruments like guitars, strings and so on.

The real question is : do you consider a sampled instrument as if it was the
real instrument, or another instrument, with its sound, and creative spirit.

Most sampled sounds are made by engineer that are trying to be the closest
to the real instrument.
Most instruments are played by musicians that want to get inspired.

Who cares about having a real steinway in a computer? If you are a
professionnal musician, you can made your demo on a sampled instrument and
then rent the real one for the final stage. It is by far the best solution!

Sampling should be considered as a new way to create interesting new
material, instead of that we all have the phantasm to get the real
instrument. Most of the time the name of the real instrument is just used as
a marketing value to sell more.

Nikko
http://www.gigfiles.com
http://www.dadev.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sampled piano's in general - Was: White Grand gets
reviewed in SOS


> When it comes to pianos, I'm not even halfway someone who knows anything,
> but IMHO there's one very critical thing that you will perhaps never get
out
> of a sampled piano library.
> The whole piano itself will resonate, no matter which piano it is, no
matter
> which note you will play. Of course, these resonating things (be it the
> metal frame or the wood) might get recorded along with the samples as
well,
> but obviously that's not the same. It might work for one note, but just
> imagine what would happen if you'd play a bunch of notes - on a real piano
> the resonating sounds won't exactly add to each other, they would
eventually
> (no, most likely) influence each other, due to their overtone structures
and
> the way the frame, wood and so on would react to this.
> The whole thing must even become worse as soon as the sustain pedal is
used.
> Obviously, a whole lot more strings (maybe even all) will ring along in
one
> way or the other.
> IMO you can't recreate such things with samples too well - but they might
be
> a pretty much important part of piano sounds in general.
>
> I don't remember whom it was, but when people were trying to get a real
> "boomy" guitar sound, they tried placing their amp pretty close to a grand
> with the sustain pedal pressed, just to have all those notes ringing
along -
> now, try this with a sampled piano ;o)
> Of course I'm not 100% serious on this, but if you think about it, this is
a
> pretty much important part of a piano sound as well.
>
> Anyways, for my needs the (free) PSP piano verb does a nice job in adding
at
> least a bit of the occasional odd overtone. But well, I don't own any
> expensive piano library either, so this might not be a real option for the
> true piano afficionados among you.
>
> Regards,
> Sascha
>
>
>
>
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