EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

mandcmiller wrote:
> One of the reasons I posted these samples was to show my
> appreciation for all of the other great samples I have been able to
> download for free.

Don't get me wrong, this is very much appreciated. And you've done a nice job on sampling and cutting them, judging from what I
listened to so far.

> As far as the ethics are concerned: there are
> dozens of commercially available sample libraries that have drum
> boxes and other synths represented, and I doubt that there are any
> royalties being paid to the original manufacturers for the use of
> those sounds.

I wouldn't be too sure about that point.
At least professional sampling companies, or people using samples for instruments (such as Spectrasonics) pay a fortune for their
licenses. At least that's what Eric (Person) once posted (not sure whether it was on this list or on KVR).

> My next project, after programming the RM50 kits, is
> going to be a bunch of Casio VZ-1 presets. Is there any difference
> between a nonsample-based synth's presets vs. a sample player's
> presets?

Legally, yes, there is.
Personally, I find this to be a bit weird too - but I can understand it nevertheless, at least partially.
Let's assume the following situation: There's a hardware unit with LOADS of RAM or diskspace - so there might be a whole lot of
(ROM) sounds on it, high quality samples, which the company doing said hardware unit had to license from the company distributing
the samples.
Now, let's just assume Mr. Garritan (or whomever) contributed a big set of symphonic strings to that unit's ROM content.
Would you think it'd be legal to resample those strings?
I'm sure Mr. Garritan and the hardware unit company would strongly disagree - and laws are disagreeing as well (at least from what I
know).

> Plus, providing the samples of the RM50 does not replicate
> it's functionality - like the ability to have seperate envelopes,
> filters, etc... per voice. And yeah... The RM50 is long discontinued.

Yes, I know. But just imagine Yamaha would've planned to re-use those samples in a, say, low level line VST synth of their own (you
may know that they're now teaming with Steinberg, so it's not even THAT unlikely). They might think about losing customers because
this very sampleset is allready available. Whether that's plausible or likely to happen is beyond the point... the samples are owned
(or licensed) by Yamaha.

As said, don't get me wrong, I truly appreciate your effort and I might use those samples too - they're wellsorted and good
sounding.
I was only pointing out the legal issues - and companies such as Roland and Yamaha are VERY sensitive (and aware) regarding such
matters. Just ask Eric (Person).

The bottomline being: Those companies protect whatever they can. With samples it's rather easy - with non-samplebased synths it
isn't. Maybe that's why they don't care as much about these.

Regards,
Sascha